It was reported in the Telegraph too.
Also from the Office of the Information Commissioner - Taking Photographs in Schools
My first 'You can't photograph kids here'
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It was reported in the Telegraph too.
Also from the Office of the Information Commissioner - Taking Photographs in Schools
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Useful - cheers
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very useful just had a read
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I feel very sorry for the kids of today as they will be adults of tomorrow, with no hard memories of what they did in their youth. I look back at my photos it's part of my life.
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Why all this fuss about taking pictures of your kids at things like sports days and other perfectly normal activities
Not like they are stark ******* naked, world gone mad and glad when my daughter was young it was a bit more sane
She loves looking back at things like her birthday parties and identifying her friends and other happy times
Never had a problem and not too sure how I would have reacted
Not like they are stark ******* naked, world gone mad and glad when my daughter was young it was a bit more sane
She loves looking back at things like her birthday parties and identifying her friends and other happy times
Never had a problem and not too sure how I would have reacted
This is the a small part of a big problem in society today. People seem to have to demand a law to prohibit everything or investigate everything to death, which unfortunately opens the doors to a draconian police state where your every action is under scrutiny. What ever happened to common sense. I despair for the future generations, putting your hands behind your back will probably be enough to get them arrested. Spanish Inquisition springs to mind. Good on you DD
...Well said sir.
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It's important to stand up for yourself as well as if people go around believing that they are within their rights to stop everyone taking photo's were all doomed. it's rediculous the society we live in.
I was in an ASDA home store a few months ago and a young girl (I'm useles with ages but say 7 or 8) was crying her eyes out in the middle of the store looking pleadingly at everyone for help as she had obviously lost her mam / dad.. we were standing next to a guy who said "I really want to go and see if she is ok but I don't dare go near her" and not one person went up to her, everyone just walked away and left her crying until her parents found her....
now that in my opinion is just outrageous and we all need to try and put a stop to this kind of "everyone is evil" attitude...
I was in an ASDA home store a few months ago and a young girl (I'm useles with ages but say 7 or 8) was crying her eyes out in the middle of the store looking pleadingly at everyone for help as she had obviously lost her mam / dad.. we were standing next to a guy who said "I really want to go and see if she is ok but I don't dare go near her" and not one person went up to her, everyone just walked away and left her crying until her parents found her....
now that in my opinion is just outrageous and we all need to try and put a stop to this kind of "everyone is evil" attitude...
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Very well done Dave for keeping your cool that itself shows you are indeed professional, I have only experienced this sort of thing once and that was when myself and Eileen were shooting the moon from our balcony camera pointing straight up lol when a gang of youths started shouting up at us so we just cleared up and left it at that not that we couldnt argue back but simply the fact most gangs around here are normally on drugs so we try to avoid any confrontation
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Even worse was a story told to me on a first aid course
In Florida a young girl had a problem in a swimming pool and onlooking people didn't do anything
Very lucky that a holidaying British first aider got her out and performed mouth to mouth, afterwards one or two people admittted to being worried about the consequences for themselves
So its not only here and even worse I would imagine with the litagious society in the US which also seems to be increasingly prevalent here
In Florida a young girl had a problem in a swimming pool and onlooking people didn't do anything
Very lucky that a holidaying British first aider got her out and performed mouth to mouth, afterwards one or two people admittted to being worried about the consequences for themselves
So its not only here and even worse I would imagine with the litagious society in the US which also seems to be increasingly prevalent here
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I don't understand why people have the approach of "they must have done something wrong" with everything.
It's very sad.
What annoyed me a while ago was a lady in the street fell over, her bags went everywhere etc, so I rushed over to see if she was ok and gave her, her walking stick from the ground and picked up something else and handed it to her once she was up(can't remember what but it was obviously light cause I can't hold heavy things). Several people had walked past before I got there and afterwards and she commented on this, that out of all the people who could have stopped to help, it was a woman in a wheelchair.
Weird society that we live in, where people are afraid to help each other - don't you think?
It's very sad.
What annoyed me a while ago was a lady in the street fell over, her bags went everywhere etc, so I rushed over to see if she was ok and gave her, her walking stick from the ground and picked up something else and handed it to her once she was up(can't remember what but it was obviously light cause I can't hold heavy things). Several people had walked past before I got there and afterwards and she commented on this, that out of all the people who could have stopped to help, it was a woman in a wheelchair.
Weird society that we live in, where people are afraid to help each other - don't you think?
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Saw this on another forum. Hope it helps.
Parents who want to take photos of their children in school plays or at sports days can once again snap happily away.
The privacy watchdog says authorities that have banned parents taking shots for the family album are wrongly interpreting the rules.
Relatives wanting to take pictures at nativity plays, sports days or other public events are often told that doing so would breach the Data Protection Act.
Snap happy: Parents can take photos of school sports day
But the Office of the Information Commissioner has said this interpretation of the law is simply wrong.
It decreed that any picture taken for the family photograph album would normally be acceptable.
This guidance can now be used by parents and grandparents to challenge 'barmy' rulings relating to the upcoming school sports day season.
Deputy Information Commissioner David Smith said: 'We recognise that parents want to capture significant moments on camera.
'We want to reassure them and other family members that whatever they might be told, data protection does not prevent them taking photographs of their children and friends at school events.
'Photographs taken for the family photo album are exempt from the Act and citing the Data Protection Act to stop people taking photos or filming their children at school is wrong.'
The guidance, sent to education authorities across the country, says: 'Fear of breaching the provisions of the Act should not be wrongly used to stop people taking photographs or videos which provide many with much pleasure.
'Where the Act does apply, a common sense approach suggests that if the photographer asks for permission to take a photograph, this will usually be enough to ensure compliance.'
Specific examples of what is allowed includes a parent taking 'a photograph of their child and some friends taking part in the school sports day to be put in the family photo album'.
The video recording of school nativity plays is also listed as being acceptable.
The guidance says that, in some cases, official school photographs or visits by newspaper photographers may be covered by data protection laws.
But provided that parents and children are informed about what is happening, there should be no problem in these cases. Earlier this month, the Mail reported how parents at Mrs Ethelston's Church of England Primary School were upset after being told they could not take pictures of their own children at sports day.
The village school in Uplyme, Devon, cited changes to child protection legislation for the ban on cameras.
Headmistress Andrea Rice said 'vulnerable pupils' needed to be protected.
There has been a string of similar cases in which parents were stopped from taking pictures at school events.
Margaret Morrissey, of pressure group Parents Outloud, said: 'I am really pleased that common sense has broken out. We have to be sensible about this and allow families to build up histories of their children and stop spoiling life for those parents who want to be involved.'
Parents who want to take photos of their children in school plays or at sports days can once again snap happily away.
The privacy watchdog says authorities that have banned parents taking shots for the family album are wrongly interpreting the rules.
Relatives wanting to take pictures at nativity plays, sports days or other public events are often told that doing so would breach the Data Protection Act.
Snap happy: Parents can take photos of school sports day
But the Office of the Information Commissioner has said this interpretation of the law is simply wrong.
It decreed that any picture taken for the family photograph album would normally be acceptable.
This guidance can now be used by parents and grandparents to challenge 'barmy' rulings relating to the upcoming school sports day season.
Deputy Information Commissioner David Smith said: 'We recognise that parents want to capture significant moments on camera.
'We want to reassure them and other family members that whatever they might be told, data protection does not prevent them taking photographs of their children and friends at school events.
'Photographs taken for the family photo album are exempt from the Act and citing the Data Protection Act to stop people taking photos or filming their children at school is wrong.'
The guidance, sent to education authorities across the country, says: 'Fear of breaching the provisions of the Act should not be wrongly used to stop people taking photographs or videos which provide many with much pleasure.
'Where the Act does apply, a common sense approach suggests that if the photographer asks for permission to take a photograph, this will usually be enough to ensure compliance.'
Specific examples of what is allowed includes a parent taking 'a photograph of their child and some friends taking part in the school sports day to be put in the family photo album'.
The video recording of school nativity plays is also listed as being acceptable.
The guidance says that, in some cases, official school photographs or visits by newspaper photographers may be covered by data protection laws.
But provided that parents and children are informed about what is happening, there should be no problem in these cases. Earlier this month, the Mail reported how parents at Mrs Ethelston's Church of England Primary School were upset after being told they could not take pictures of their own children at sports day.
The village school in Uplyme, Devon, cited changes to child protection legislation for the ban on cameras.
Headmistress Andrea Rice said 'vulnerable pupils' needed to be protected.
There has been a string of similar cases in which parents were stopped from taking pictures at school events.
Margaret Morrissey, of pressure group Parents Outloud, said: 'I am really pleased that common sense has broken out. We have to be sensible about this and allow families to build up histories of their children and stop spoiling life for those parents who want to be involved.'
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Interesting reading Dave,
I do find that "What the *** has it got to do with you?" and Who the *** are you?" are two of the most direct and effective questions in the vocabulary.....
They do tend to cut through any doubt, cr@p or misunderstandings very swiftly and get you straight to the point with said person concerned.
They work best if used after said know-all/self professed authority hasn't stated their position/credentials by the 1st or 2nd minute of conversation....
Glad your outcome was positive though apart from chinning said know-all
more like my aproach, than daves.
helps if your 5 ft ten and sixteen stone. with a big beard too.
still shaving dave?
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nice one DD
is it not possible that this guy was a p***,and was worried you might just take a shot of him where he shouldn't be.....a long shot i know,but you never know do ya!!
is it not possible that this guy was a p***,and was worried you might just take a shot of him where he shouldn't be.....a long shot i know,but you never know do ya!!
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nice one DD
is it not possible that this guy was a p***,and was worried you might just take a shot of him where he shouldn't be.....a long shot i know,but you never know do ya!!
Now there's a twist
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I think that you handled the situation spot on Dave and if anything you were provoked into the **** Off statement as I'm sure you tried to be nice at the start of the conversation. I personally would have done exactly the same.
As long as you do know the law I believe these interfering jobsworths will soon realise they are beaten and b****r off for a nice cup of tea. We seem to know far more regarding the law on children's photography than the people supposed to be implementing it. To just have packed up your gear and stop shooting would in my opinion have been another nail in the coffin for proud parents innocently trying to take photos of their children growing up.
Well done you.
As long as you do know the law I believe these interfering jobsworths will soon realise they are beaten and b****r off for a nice cup of tea. We seem to know far more regarding the law on children's photography than the people supposed to be implementing it. To just have packed up your gear and stop shooting would in my opinion have been another nail in the coffin for proud parents innocently trying to take photos of their children growing up.
Well done you.