Murray

cobwebscavern said:
For all those who say that they don't like Murray because of his personality and it has nothing to do with nationality I hope that you weren't supporting england at the recent football tourney as they were captained by a sour-faced womanising racist?...or were you able to manage to overlook that eh?
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I never support England anyway, and the site of that scum bag turned my stomach every time I saw him. Truly a vile excuse for a man.
 
Fed up of "cut to Andy's mum" -
 
However, back on topic. It's good to see the home crowed give Murray so much support. I hope he wins.
 
well I have something in common with Andy Murray. We have both won exactly the same amount of Grand Slams.
 
Oh well. Failure in the F1, failure at Wimbledon, let's all get behind Bradley Wiggins. Who does have a great chance at an historic British victory!
 
Lynton said:
well I have something in common with Andy Murray. We have both won exactly the same amount of Grand Slams.
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But he made a little bit more money than you doing it ;)
 
Good match, great atmosphere towards the end. Shame Andy didn't win.
 
TriggerHappy said:
Slight difference between a team of 25 playing in their team colours and one man playing for himself.

Also, I assume the "sour-faced womanising racist" is in reference to John Terry who wasn't England's captain, Steven Gerrard was.
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Very wrong of me to single out one player for criticism of course when Ashley Cole and Wayne Rooney (at the very least) are also proven cheats. How many of the team have to be disgusting human beings before they shouldn't be supported I wonder?
 
Hold on we have a british Wimbledon Champ, Marray won in the Doubles last night
 
cobwebscavern said:
For all those who say that they don't like Murray because of his personality and it has nothing to do with nationality I hope that you weren't supporting england at the recent football tourney as they were captained by a sour-faced womanising racist?...or were you able to manage to overlook that eh?
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Since when was Steve g a racist?
 
So I hope that everyone who has criticised Andy's personality and temperament will at least have a re-think after his speech on center court.

Dignity, charm and humility personified.
 
Nice to see an emotional Murray thanking the crowd like he did.
 
O'er, just woke up ... it's over and result as expected.
 
joescrivens said:
Since when was Steve g a racist?
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My thoughts entirely, i think some people missed the departure of Capello based on the fact Terry wasn't allowed to be captain :lol:

Cliff
 
Before this thread derails too much. Andy did well to get into the final, got further than before (and any other British single players) and to be honest he's good enough to win a grandslam...the problem is that there are another 3 guys who are just that bit better who equally can win grandslams.

Now let the thread descend into madness
 
lizzy23 said:
Hold on we have a british Wimbledon Champ, Marray won in the Doubles last night
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To be fair...we had one a few years before that in 2007 with Jamie Murry in the mixed doubles, although some seem to have forgotten that one.
 
MackieStaggie said:
Before this thread derails too much. Andy did well to get into the final, got further than before (and any other British single players) and to be honest he's good enough to win a grandslam...the problem is that there are another 3 guys who are just that bit better who equally can win grandslams.

Now let the thread descend into madness
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Physically good enough - yes...
Tennis playing good enough - yes
Mentally good enough - no...

Cracks under pressure and gets too angry with himself and beats himself up too much!
 
cobwebscavern said:
So I hope that everyone who has criticised Andy's personality and temperament will at least have a re-think after his speech on center court.

Dignity, charm and humility personified.
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I have never criticised his temperament on here. But whilst he is a class player he has still not reached the stage in his game that he can control his inner most thoughts, it still gets to him. Federer is in a class of his own, the guy does not even start going untill after a few sets and always steps up his game as is needed. I am sure Andy aspires to him and one year will get there. Not sure how people will see it any different after a speech, he was hardly going to be coming out with excuses was he, that just isn`t Tennis.
 
Lynton said:
Physically good enough - yes...
Tennis playing good enough - yes
Mentally good enough - no...

Cracks under pressure and gets too angry with himself and beats himself up too much!
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That's the 'British' way isn't it?
 
Lynton said:
Physically good enough - yes...
Tennis playing good enough - yes
Mentally good enough - no...

Cracks under pressure and gets too angry with himself and beats himself up too much!
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Granted, but would say there's been a different net side over this tournament up till the final 2 sets there. Lendal has only had him for 6 months and I think he can install that last bit of mental toughness that he's missing which takes him from finalist to winner.

Mind you, he is British/Scottish, beating ourselves up when near the top is what we are really good at, however some do it better like the other nations.....aarrgghh damn it *throws keyboard into wall and sulks off*
 
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Lynton said:
Physically good enough - yes...
Tennis playing good enough - yes
Mentally good enough - no...

Cracks under pressure and gets too angry with himself and beats himself up too much!
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You are right on the first two there but the latter one no...previously yes but he didn't have one outburst throughout the match...Lendl has instilled a new discipline in that regard....He was simply outplayed today by the best tennis player ever (not to mention the roof issue going against him as well).
 
cobwebscavern said:
You are right on the first two there but the latter one no...previously yes but he didn't have one outburst throughout the match...Lendl has instilled a new discipline in that regard....He was simply outplayed today by the best tennis player ever (not to mention the roof issue going against him as well).
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Try thinking mentally as being over confident and too much fist pumping too early on. I think he got a bit ahead of himself then got an arse kicking and a lesson in how to play a final.
 
I thought he played ok apart from not getting too many first serves in,most players would have struggled against federer in that form
 
Jjm said:
I thought he played ok apart from not getting too many first serves in,most players would have struggled against federer in that form
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Exactly. He played ok.... respectable :)loss. As in not played good enough to win... :thinking:

At the moment he doesn't have the mindset to win... nor the self belief.

4th set - he looked a beaten man. Fed hadn't sweated.
 
Lynton said:
Exactly. He played ok.... respectable :)loss. As in not played good enough to win... :thinking:

At the moment he doesn't have the mindset to win... nor the self belief.

4th set - he looked a beaten man. Fed hadn't sweated.
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Fair point he never really looked as though he could win it
 
I love the armchair warriors who are saying he played ok...like you would have done better eh :lol: ?

He played brilliantly. He won the first set and looked like taking the second all the way up to the point where Federer kicked in his game and broke him to win the second set. Federer is the best player to have played the game bar none.

On top of this to combat those doubting his personality he gave a lovely speech. To find fault at this point seems beyond petty.
 
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