Multiple Exposure - advice/help needed

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Hi all,

Brand new poster here, I've lurked for a while and finally thought I'd give the posting thing a go too. :)

I'm looking to experiment with multiple exposures with either of my film cameras (Pentax K1000 & Nikon F-301), I've not tried it before and I'm a bit in the dark as to the best way to do it 'in camera'.

I've read various bits and pieces online about holding down the film rewind button - am I correct in saying;

A) I wind on as normal and snap my first shot.

B) I then hold down the film rewind button the bottom.

C) Whilst holding this, I wind on again, once fully wound on I release both the lever and the film rewind button on the bottom.

D) I then take my second shot which should be overlayed on top of this previous shot.

Are there any tips/hints as to achieving the best results in terms of exposure etc? And varying the shots, ie. making one more 'dominating' than the other?

Additionally, is there a way that is less fiddly to use the entire roll as normal, rewinding it back to the start and putting the film back in and shooting with it again?

For example if I want to use an entire roll in one area, and then expose on top of those in a totally different location rather than having to do it on an individual photo by photo basis.

Hopefully my post has made sense and you knowledgeable people can point me in the right direction of helping me achieve what I'd like to :)

Thanks in advance!
 
Can't help you out regarding the mechanics of using a Pentax, but

Bucket said:
Are there any tips/hints as to achieving the best results in terms of exposure etc? And varying the shots, ie. making one more 'dominating' than the other?
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In most circumstances, the rule of thumb is that you'll want the exposure of both shots add up to one normal exposure. So, if your meter is suggesting 1/500 at f/5.6 for both shots, you could shoot the both shots at 1/1000 sec at f/5.6, or both 1/500 at f/8.

Alternatively, if the metering is 1/500 at f/5.6 for the first, shoot it at 1/1000 at f/5.6. Then when you get to the second shot, the meter suggests 1/250 at f/8, then shoot that at 1/500 at f/8.

You can then vary the proportion of each image by adjusting the exposure in either direction, making sure they always add up to one 'full' normal exposure for the combined scenes.

Bucket said:
Additionally, is there a way that is less fiddly to use the entire roll as normal, rewinding it back to the start and putting the film back in and shooting with it again?

For example if I want to use an entire roll in one area, and then expose on top of those in a totally different location rather than having to do it on an individual photo by photo basis.
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Sounds like a tricky proposition, as you'd have to ensure that the film was wound wound back to exactly the same start point and then was wound back on exactly the same amount on the second pass. Might be possible with some more modern film cameras that have automatic film advance and allow you to stop shooting half way through a roll, wind it back in and then remember where you were when you put the roll back in the camera - would depend on the software options available. :shrug:
 
Excellent, thanks very much for the advice Musicman, especially on the exposure etc. I would have just blindly shot otherwise so that's helped me out a lot.

With regards to the tricky part I think it will be a bit of a nightmare, I suppose I'll only have to try and experiment with some cheap film and see what I can do to easiest to get it working how I want!
 
I think it's going to be quite tricky to do with the Nikon. I was given an F301 and it takes nice photos but it's power wind only and winds on as soon as you've taken a shot.
 
freecom2 said:
Who better to explain it then Pentax themselves? K1000 manual, page 23 - on the part 2 PDF at the excellent butkus site, who deserves the donations they ask for:

http://www.butkus.org/chinon/pentax/pentax_k1000/pentax_k1000.htm
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Excellent, thanks very much :thumbs:.

Not sure why I didn't think of checking for a manual online and seeing if it was in there, seems the most obvious answer :)

EDIT: I thought similar for the Nikon Nick, I was recently given one too and I don't think this sort of thing will be possible with it as you say.
 
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