Moving up to full frame, lens questions

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Guys, need a little help from those who have been here before,
Current postition,
Canon 7d with 15-85 efs.
Have also acquired a few other lenses along the way,
70-200F4L, 100mm 2.8L Macro, 400mm 5.6L, 50mm F1.4 , 85mm 1.8.

Am planning to go for a 5Dmkii in near future, full frame adventure etc... with a view to using this for landscape photography and portraits indoors taking advantage of the high ISO quality etc...
I really like the 7D and plan to keep this for birding (the 400 is a fab lens) and also for fast shooting, like the pet greyhounds.

So my original plan was to pick up a 5dmkii with a 24-105 F4, some cheap ones about, then sell my 15-85 efs to fund a 17-40L f4. (for the landscape stuff). Have gone through the eternal debate of 24-70 v 24-105, it hurts, My logic was that having the faster primes I could live with the 24-105 at F4.

However the one thing that puts me off the 24-105 is the question of reliabilty, with issues of user Error 0 when the internal focusing diaphragm fails. Is this commen?

So ultimately my question to those in the know?
Should I worry about the 24-105 reliability?
If so should I buy the 24-70?
If I do will I really need to buy the 17-40 as well for landscapes, in my film days 24mm was considered wide!

Please put me out of my misery! Appreciate comments from those that have worked through a similar situation.

Regards Neil.
 
Sorry can't be much help with the first 2 questions but with regard to the 17-40, just buy one. This lens is incredible on full frame and perfect for landscapes.

Also, the 85 1.8 is perfect for portraits.
 
24-105 f4 L and 24-70 f2.8 L is different thing.

I'm a nikon guy but the two lens is pretty much same as the nikon 24-70 f2.8 and 24-120 f4.

Depend what you shoot and how you use it. The 24-105 in your case should be lighter so when using the lens during travel it will be easy to carry and shoot. Optic quality is very good but during low light you might struggle abit.

The 24-70 f2.8 is a fast mid range zoom which we all know how good it is. Depend what is your budget and what type of stuff you want to shoot.

Personally i would buy the body only and buy the 24-70, but thats me.
 
Your judgement is impeccable - see left. Never heard of any problems like that with the 24-105, which I use for 75% of everything.

24 is wide, but 17 is wider :D
 
24-105 is what I use for 80% of my shots. 17-40 probably for another 15%. We also have a 7D with the 15-85 almost permanently attached as Ms arad85's walkaround camera. If you have any reason to use both 7D and 5D2 as a walkabout I'd keep the 15-85. IMHO, 17-40 is too short on the 7D as a walkabout.

As to reliability - only Canon can tell you that as I don't think a lens exists that has never had a fault on any copy ;)
 
As a general walkabout lens I use the 28-135mm IS USM on my 1Ds MkII.

It gives excellent results on my camera at a very low cost - in fact I only have 3 lenses now - the 28-135mm a "Nifty Fifty" and a 70-300mm L IS USM.

With some extension tubes etc I find this covers virtually all my needs.

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You've got some nice lenses that'll work beautifully with the 5D (50 1.4, 85 1.8). I'd certainly recommend 24-105, as I love having a bit of overlap with my 70-200 and I've never missed f2.8 on my 5D considering I used to have a few on my old 40d.

17-40 is, in my opinion, one of the best value for money lenses you could get for the 5d. Alot cheaper than the 16-35 and I think equally as good. A must have for landscapes on the 5D though I do tend to notice its barrel distortion at wide angles now, but really easily corrected in Lightroom.

Hope this helps,

Mark
 
24-70 is a bit sharper than 24-105, particularly in the 70-105mm region. I found the IS a bit weak for my needs, so I'd recommend 24-70mm.

24mm is really wide, but there are times when you need to go wider. 24-70mm doesn't produce great sunstars either, so you may want another lens for that.
The trouble with 17-40 is really bad corners right up to f/11 - it is just nowhere near as sharp as 24-70 at any overlapping settings. If you are using it at f/16 then it's OK, but if you like me are expecting a bit more you are up for some disappointment, particularly as you are coming from super sharp tele primes.
 
I'd certainly recommend 24-105, as I love having a bit of overlap with my 70-200
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+1 for this. My 24-105 and 70-200 live on my 5D2 and 7D at the moment. They swap bodies every now and again but the IQ from the 24-105 on the 7D is outstanding and a great reach too. And even better when I bolt it on the 5D2.
 
As with a previous post a majorty of my shots are taken with either 24-105 or 17-40 and not had any problems with either lens. I not used the 24-70 so can not make any comment.
 
arad85 said:
You sure about that :thinking: ;)
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ouch :cuckoo:. I meant to say the OP's 70-200 will be clearly sharper than 24-105mm in that region - so no extra benefit over 24-70mm.
 
Many thanks for the additional comments.
I pondered the need for the 24-105 or the 24-70, with the 17-40 and the promes I kind of have it covered, but the reason we all buy zooms is for the convenience they bring, So even with the overlap the 24-105 will be a great solution if travelling relatively light to capture a reasonable span of opportunities.

Just gets a bit expensive, but we all face that risk!!



Regards Neil.
 
I have a 5D and the 17-40 is great for landscapes, I also have the 50mm f1.4 which is my walkabout lens and to be honest I don't really feel like I am missing anything in the 40-50mm area.

My advice would be to get either lens, see how you get on with it, then decide if you need another.
 
I rented both the 24-70 and the 24-105 prior to deciding which one to get. In the end the IS on the 24-105 swung it for me. Also, I preferred the lighter-weight of the 24-105, and the reverse zoom action put me off the 24-70.

I couldn't see any difference in image quality between the two in tests I did while I had them both.
 
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