Moving to Mirrorless. Fuji Xe-2 AF (and general thoughts) Vs Sony A6000

daugirdas said:
Thanks for supplying some cut price gear to the used market - I am sure the new mirrorless toy will change hands in the same way soon. That's a really spectacular downgrade - a bit like from Porche right to public transport.
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Really???

Believe me I put a massive amount of thought into this decision, and totally accept that it is a downgrade in terms of quality. If i felt it was appropriate for me of course I would have liked to have kept my kit. But I have my reasons.

I have a young family, who are the subject of 90% of my photography, and its simply not practical lugging a DSLR and lenses everywhere when out and about, even just a body and prime is a hassle. I want a camera I can literally put in my pocket on occasions like that. I'd rather have a lower quality picture of my kids than no picture at all

I can also accept that ive spent far too much on camera gear unnecessarily, and with selling all my kit i will probably net about 2 1/2 grand. The reason that I've set myself a limit for a new system is that I would far rather have the rest of that money to spend on my wife and kids.

And yes I realise that some people will say why not just buy a compact then? Well for me it's about striking a balance between what I want and what I'm willing to spend on a hobby.

Its this type of gear snobbery which can really spoil photography for a lot of people, making it all about the gear and not about the images. I wonder if I was moving to an entry level DSLR if your attitude would be the same......
 
I'm pretty sure that you're going to love it. And I dare say that 98% of people who see yours pics will notice no difference in your pics at all but will more than likely see an increase in the amount of pics being taken as like you say, you're more likely to have the camera on you than you were with the 5d.

Look forward to seeing some pics! :)
 
minnnt said:
I'm pretty sure that you're going to love it. And I dare say that 98% of people who see yours pics will notice no difference in your pics at all but will more than likely see an increase in the amount of pics being taken as like you say, you're more likely to have the camera on you than you were with the 5d.

Look forward to seeing some pics! :)
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The only people who will notice a difference are other photographers!
 
Ulfric M Douglas said:
Are you going to be satisfied with just a fisheye as your only wide?
If not, what wide zoom for urbex?
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Well I used to use a 14mm and 35mm on FF for all my urbex stuff, so I should be OK. The 12mm gives the equivalent of 18mm on FF so it won't actually fisheye as such.

The other option is a Sony 10-18 f4, but its way out of budget!
 
I have moved from a Nikon D7000 to the Sony A7, no regrets so far :)
 
architectfadi said:
I have upgraded from my Nikon D800 to my Fuji XT-1 :banana:

Let the abuse begin :punch:
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The XT-1 is a nice little camera, no abuse required.
I feel Fuji seem to be the company which listen to their customers and have great customer experience imo.

Nikon and Canon must pull something out of the bag soon as they are losing ground pretty fast..... :)
 
daugirdas said:
Thanks for supplying some cut price gear to the used market - I am sure the new mirrorless toy will change hands in the same way soon. That's a really spectacular downgrade - a bit like from Porche right to public transport.
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I really don't see you as an ignorant person, perhaps your a troll? Certaintly one or the other for sure! never heard so much twaddle and I'm very much in the DSLR camp.
 
Just got home to my a6000 + 2 lenses. First little play looks great, focus is really fast and the burst is very impressive! Haven't had a look at the files up close yet but so far very happy.
 
EspressoJunkie said:
Really???

Believe me I put a massive amount of thought into this decision, and totally accept that it is a downgrade in terms of quality.
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I long ago accepted that my pictures probably aren't going to be printed 6ft wide and hung on a gallery wall and studied from 2 inches away. Instead my pictures are viewed on screen mostly, on a TV sometimes and printed occasionally to A4 or smaller and to A3 very occasionally.

When I first got a mirrorless camera (Panasonic GF1) and several times since I compared my Canon 20D and then 5D to my micro four thirds cameras on screen and in print to A3. I also asked friends and family to pick little camera images out of a pile also containing big camera images. The findings of this rather time consuming and expensive (paper and ink 'aint cheap) exercise was that at low to medium ISO's neither me nor anyone I've roped in can pick little camera images out from a pile of 5D images at anything better than chance. Even looking for thin DoF isn't a reliable method as little cameras can do thin DoF too. At higher ISO setting my 5D produced the best results but little cameras can do high ISO's too these days so really, I think, that unless you're pushing the envelope of what is possible by shooting at very high ISO settings or boosting the exposure post capture or printing very large and or looking very very closely I personally think that little cameras such as the latest batch of Micro Four Thirds or APS-C cameras are perfectly capable of producing images that can get lost in a pile of FF DSLR images unless you are pushing the very limit of what's possible and each of us has to decide if/when we really do that. I don't.

I hope you don't see a drop in image quality from your new gear, I suspect that in most instances you wont.
 
I moved from my Canon 1DS MKIII & 1D MkIV to the Olympus ON-D EM5 & then EM1 & rediscovered the joy of photography again, the lighter gear was great hiking with a full kit in the Lakes & Scotland & street photography I am now enjoying again from the old days with my compact sized Pentax ME Super. Like you many thought I was mad & wouldn't be able to compete in the club & regions etc, but have proved them all wrong winning many events this year & good acceptances in Salons both national & international. Although the Canon gear was certainly better in certain areas this was about 1-2% of my photography & it is certainly good enough.
 
Peter_Hartland said:
I am now enjoying again from the old days with my compact sized Pentax ME Super.... Although the Canon gear was certainly better in certain areas this was about 1-2% of my photography & it is certainly good enough
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To me this is the point. It's not that compact system cameras are small (they're about the size cameras used to be) it's that DSLR kit has got so big.
 
I bought a Fuji XE1 and 18-55mm, really enjoy using it, size and weight reduction is very welcome.
Also got a 5D mkii and its equally pleasurable to use, don't see it as a competition.
 
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Very interested to hear how you get on with the A6000 particularly with taking pics of moving kids. I've got an X-E1 that struggles with any movement due to the AF speed. I have a Nikon D90 and keen to get rid and commit to CSC but the X-E1 is not quite it for my needs. IQ wise it's fine!
 
RAB2000 said:
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Very interested to hear how you get on with the A6000 particularly with taking pics of moving kids. I've got an X-E1 that struggles with any movement due to the AF speed. I have a Nikon D90 and keen to get rid and commit to CSC but the X-E1 is not quite it for my needs. IQ wise it's fine!
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I will let you know, as my kids move pretty fast!

Check out Gary Fongs review on Youtube, he has some examples of how the AF copes with kids, and it seems very impressive.
 
Matt-P said:
Do you think there's room for an X-T1 alongside a D800? I'm invested down that route in NIkon but there's something very desirable about the X-T1 that got me wondering....
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For me and my style of shooting, definitely yes. You really have to give a try and judge for yourself.
 
So the A6000 arrived on Thursday, and I've had a couple of chances to shoot with it over the weekend.

I'll do a proper more detailed post in the next couple of days, but I'm happy to say that first impressions are extremely positive. Of course there are areas where I will miss the 5Dmkiii, but given that this camera and kit lens costs roughly 1/6 of what I was using (5D and sigma 35) I am more than happy with it.

Would I be recommending it for a working pro or an extreme pixel peeper? Probably not. But for what I need I think it's gonna do just fine :)

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For pixel peeper's there's always the Sony A7/A7R ;)


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Thas a lovely first shot - its appearing faded, its that a process or just how its appeared on my browser?
 
I managed to get out with the A6000 and the 55-210 lens today at the local national trust. Here are some pics taken outside the cafe:

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Pretty pleased with the results. A teeny little bit noisier than the X-E1 but that is expected with the extra 8 megapixels. As far as the lens goes, it could be sharper but for a budget telephoto it handles really well and there is the premium 70-200mm f/4 if you want super sharp anyway.
As I said before, focusing speed was really good and the burst helped with the pretty jumpy birds. One thing that was really handy (especially with the robin hiding behind the leaves) is that I had the focus on continuous and multi area. Now of course with any camera it will tend to focus on the closest object, but on the a6000, no matter what focus mode I'm in I can press the button in the middle of the control dial on the back (the OK button) and it will spot focus in the centre of the frame! It's a fantastic mechanic because you can be in whatever focus mode you want but if its not quite working you don't need to faff around changing the settings, just press the middle button to focus where you want and you've got your shot.
 
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