Move from Fuji X T20 to Sony A7 iii...?

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Hello, I’m sorry if I’ve posted similar questions before but I’m still considering a change.... I’ve had my Fuji X T20 for some time now and fancy a change... one reason is that I feel it’s sometimes too small to balance bigger lenses and also I could do with a better autofocus, light sensitivity and dynamic range.

I suppose the rational part of me thinks the most natural upgrade would be the X T3 because I can then keep using my lenses. I’ve got the 18-55mm, the 55-200mm and the 27mm pancake (although I don’t really like that very much).

I’ve heard so many good things said about the Sony A7iii that I’m thinking of buying that and would really appreciate your thoughts. Also, if I do buy the Sony, what lens should I start with - one of the kit lenses or a Tamron (heard the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8is better than the equivalent Sony).

In terms what I like to shoot, it’s really landscapes, seascapes, some family photography (good autofocus and face/eye recognition will come handy) and I dabble in catching some flowers and insects.

Apart from what you all can comment in general terms two of the things I’d be interested to hear you’re thoughts on are -

the Sony user interface/ manual is it really as bad as people say? And what exactly is so bad about It?
the Fuji dials on the top of the camera: are they rrally so singularly fantastic that it’s worth staying with Fuji for that as one of the main reasons? [Btw, I don’t share the same enthusiasm of many Fuji users about the retro look of the Fuji cameras, and whilst the XT20 looks ok I don’t actually think the slightly larger XT3 looks that good with the retro look]

I look forward to your thoughts and comments! Thanks in advance.
 
There's always the X-H1 if you prefer a bigger body with much better grip. You also get IBIS. With the H1 Fuji backed off on the 'retro' look, it's pretty standard ML body style, still has the dials for ISO and SS but it's a lot more discreet I would say. I can tell you it's a very comfortable body, I like a bit of heft to a camera and a decent grip, and the H1 is about as comfortable as any modern ML body

If you go with the Sony that Tamron 28-75 looks very good, and it can be had for less than 600 used if you're lucky to catch someone eager to offload. I would also look at the Sony 85mm 1.8, reasonably priced and rated pretty highly across reviews. It would be perfect for your food photography and family portraits
 
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I was in the same predicament a couple of months ago, I went balls out and changed from Nikon DSLR to full Fuji X-T3 kit with some very nice lenses, I first loved it but as the newness wore off after a few days and I started to set the camera up, I found it changed settings every time I switched off, don't know if I was doing something wrong but the Fuji was so frustrating for me and even the wife, she was having the same problems, anyway she went back to Nikon and I wanted to stay mirrorless so watched the Olympus thread, the images were as good as Fuji but some had a quality Fuji didn't quite have that the M43 system has, that DoF is amazing from the big aperture numbers 45 f1.8 and just over a ton...……...really, and the lower lenses in the system are really for pennies but show lenses up costing 10 times as much, so I took the plunge and went Olympus, its another learning curve but the system if far friendlier than Fuji and gives stunning results.
 
As a Fuji owner I can say:

- There is not a huge jump in image quality between the XT20 and XT3, so if that is a big issue for you then no Fuji X camera will help you here.
- The Fuji lenses you own, although they are great they are not the most expensive lenses in the Fuji lineup, so if you decide to switch systems you won't be losing much.
- I like a decent grip on my cameras so If you are going down the XT3 route you will need to invest in a hand grip/vertical grip.

As a previous Sony owner:

- Their menus are so complicated but the more you use them the more you get used to them.
- Their best lenses are very expensive but as mentioned above the Tamron options are great for the money.
- Eye autofocus is the best out there.
 
Dangermouse said:
I was in the same predicament a couple of months ago, I went balls out and changed from Nikon DSLR to full Fuji X-T3 kit with some very nice lenses, I first loved it but as the newness wore off after a few days and I started to set the camera up, I found it changed settings every time I switched off, don't know if I was doing something wrong but the Fuji was so frustrating for me and even the wife, she was having the same problems, anyway she went back to Nikon and I wanted to stay mirrorless so watched the Olympus thread, the images were as good as Fuji but some had a quality Fuji didn't quite have that the M43 system has, that DoF is amazing from the big aperture numbers 45 f1.8 and just over a ton...……...really, and the lower lenses in the system are really for pennies but show lenses up costing 10 times as much, so I took the plunge and went Olympus, its another learning curve but the system if far friendlier than Fuji and gives stunning results.
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Im a bit perplexed by this because i've had Fuji for several years now and never had any settings change on me after switching off. I also had a brief dabble with Olympus and in my opinion it doesn't come close to Fuji for ease of use and image quality.
 
architectfadi said:
As a Fuji owner I can say:

- There is not a huge jump in image quality between the XT20 and XT3, so if that is a big issue for you then no Fuji X camera will help you here.
- The Fuji lenses you own, although they are great they are not the most expensive lenses in the Fuji lineup, so if you decide to switch systems you won't be losing much.
- I like a decent grip on my cameras so If you are going down the XT3 route you will need to invest in a hand grip/vertical grip.

As a previous Sony owner:

- Their menus are so complicated but the more you use them the more you get used to them.
- Their best lenses are very expensive but as mentioned above the Tamron options are great for the money.
- Eye autofocus is the best out there.
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The eye-AF won't be so great on the A7II, it's the third gen where it really began to shine. I'd imagine the XT3 eye-AF is better than the A7II

Dangermouse said:
I was in the same predicament a couple of months ago, I went balls out and changed from Nikon DSLR to full Fuji X-T3 kit with some very nice lenses, I first loved it but as the newness wore off after a few days and I started to set the camera up, I found it changed settings every time I switched off, don't know if I was doing something wrong but the Fuji was so frustrating for me and even the wife, she was having the same problems, anyway she went back to Nikon and I wanted to stay mirrorless so watched the Olympus thread, the images were as good as Fuji but some had a quality Fuji didn't quite have that the M43 system has, that DoF is amazing from the big aperture numbers 45 f1.8 and just over a ton...……...really, and the lower lenses in the system are really for pennies but show lenses up costing 10 times as much, so I took the plunge and went Olympus, its another learning curve but the system if far friendlier than Fuji and gives stunning results.
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Never had settings reset on any Fuji body I've owned [Xt1, Xpro1, XH1] - I would agree M43 is a nice system and there's a bunch of decent budget friendly lenses for it. But there's no denying the output from the Fuji cameras is a bit better, and if you want the very best M43 has to offer then it isn't any cheaper when you're looking to the pro lenses.
 
imattersuk said:
Im a bit perplexed by this because i've had Fuji for several years now and never had any settings change on me after switching off. I also had a brief dabble with Olympus and in my opinion it doesn't come close to Fuji for ease of use and image quality.
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Every Fuji user would be perplexed at my remark, and its only a remark, I bought two brand new X-T3 cameras with a multitude of lenses and neither I or my wife, both very proficient with DSLR could get to grips with them, and both bodies simply wouldn't remember our settings, that's probably down to us not saving something, but we didn't enjoy them, and in the end moved on, we don't hate them as we only had the system a few months, but only after a few days, we find Olympus easier and the IQ far superior
 
Cagey75 said:
The eye-AF won't be so great on the A7II, it's the third gen where it really began to shine. I'd imagine the XT3 eye-AF is better than the A7II



Never had settings reset on any Fuji body I've owned [Xt1, Xpro1, XH1] - I would agree M43 is a nice system and there's a bunch of decent budget friendly lenses for it. But there's no denying the output from the Fuji cameras is a bit better, and if you want the very best M43 has to offer then it isn't any cheaper when you're looking to the pro lenses.
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I thought the OP was interested in the A73 hence my comments about the Sony eye autofocus. The XT3 has improved that a lot but not yet to the Sony standard. Having said that, Its not a feature I use a lot.
 
@Fairyrose, If budget allows, maybe get hold of a 2nd hand Sony and a lens or 2 and run it alongside the Fuji to see which gives YOU the results YOU prefer and handles how YOU want it to. Would be a shame if you switched systems and regretted it and couldn't swap back relatively cheaply.
 
imattersuk said:
Im a bit perplexed by this because i've had Fuji for several years now and never had any settings change on me after switching off. I also had a brief dabble with Olympus and in my opinion it doesn't come close to Fuji for ease of use and image quality.
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The timer (2 second or 10 second) always bloody resets itself. Can’t think of anything else OTTOMH (X-T2).

Not being able to add the format card option to My Menu is a pain

I wish it had better multiple exposure options.

I love the retro feel, all feels very natural to me.
 
Andrew Benbow said:
The timer (2 second or 10 second) always bloody resets itself. Can’t think of anything else OTTOMH (X-T2).

Not being able to add the format card option to My Menu is a pain

I wish it had better multiple exposure options.

I love the retro feel, all feels very natural to me.
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The self timer resettling itself is a pain but for the format option there is always the shortcut involving the reject button.
 
architectfadi said:
I thought the OP was interested in the A73 hence my comments about the Sony eye autofocus. The XT3 has improved that a lot but not yet to the Sony standard. Having said that, Its not a feature I use a lot.
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You're right, I need to get to specsavers!! I read it as A7II - otherwise I wouldn't have suggested the H1 - A7III for certain then.
 
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