Motorway middle-lane hoggers to face on-the-spot fines

[u8myufo]

I don't see anything wrong with this unless the cutting across endagers other road users.

If however it is just someone using their common sense to get ahead of a hge queue then it's just time saving and fair play to someone who does it.

Whilst it's annoying when someone does it in front of you, unless they drove dangerously then it's only annoying because you waited and they didn't.

I'll do this on junctions that I know theres a huge queue but there will be plenty of space right at the end of the slip road.

Same with roundabouts. If I want to turn left but there is a massive queue and the right hand lane is free then I'll go up the right hand lane and go around the roundabout and cut in left before all the other cars. Nothing dangerous about it - it's just common sense to me to save time on my journey

Pass the keyboard to Daisy Joe, I am sure I could have a much more sensible conversation with her.

They are actually driving in accordance with the Highway Code, you are supposed to use all lanes and the merge in turn.

What I am talking about Dave as an example, a junction off of the M5. Two lanes on the slip road which are starting to build up, you got the old codgers happily traveling down the inside lane in hamster mode, you then have the rest of the numpties weaving in and out of the other two lanes and then cutting across in front of people. You then get those that have to brake unnecessarily hard to avoid hitting something, and so begins the knock on effect causing a tailback. I am sure you have driven on the motorway which is chocker blocked for a mile or two and wondered what was it all about bad driving skills my friend that is all

 

[joescrivens]

Pass the keyboard to Daisy Joe, I am sure I could have a much more sensible conversation with her.

why rich? Didn't what I wrote make sense?

 

[Steve Smith]

That usually happens when some idiot is in the left hand lane wanting the 3rd exit and forces you round. Something similar happened to a workmate except he got T-boned and resulted in his car being written off.

I don't do that. And I assume that in the situation Joe mentioned, he uses the correct lane to enter the roundabout and moves over correctly to exit it. So not a problem really.


Steve.

 

[nilagin]

I am sure you have driven on the motorway which is chocker blocked for a mile or two and wondered what was it all about bad driving skills my friend that is all

In my experience on motorways and dual carriageways alike, it's usually down to lorries occupying the first two or three lanes all travelling at around 56mph and there will be a silver Renault Scenic overtaking them all in the outside lane at approx. 56.9mph. Why a Scenic? I don't know, but I've experienced it at least 1/2 a dozen times now in the past couple of years. Can't be sure if it's the same one each time or perhaps they all do it.

 

[u8myufo]

In my experience on motorways and dual carriageways alike, it's usually down to lorries occupying the first two or three lanes all travelling at around 56mph and there will be a silver Renault Scenic overtaking them all in the outside lane at approx. 56.9mph. Why a Scenic? I don't know, but I've experienced it at least 1/2 a dozen times now in the past couple of years. Can't be sure if it's the same one each time or perhaps they all do it.

That might well be the case with some lorries, I average about 900 miles a week most on the M4-M5. For anyone who does this sort of mileage and more you get a good idea of how the average person drives on the roads and what their attitudes are like towards other motorists. From my on experience I would say that it is not all that good to be honest, as for the likes of Joescrivens who thinks the right hand lane of a roundabout is for turning left, that just about sums it all up.

 

[new2me]

... as for the likes of Joescrivens who thinks the right hand lane of a roundabout is for turning left, that just about sums it all up.

The thing about that is that, as long as only a small proportion of people do it around the country there's no harm and it's just a bit cheeky (some would say arrogant, but i'll not use that word ).
But if that small number grew, then you would have a tailback of rightee left turners going all round the roundabout.

Filtering at lane closures seems to cause a lot of agro, as people queue way too early and get upset because someone carries on down the last 600 yards of the empty lane to the bottleneck. I often see lorries straddling two lanes to block traffic from doing this and various other intimidating acts from various vehicle drivers.

 

[nilagin]

Filtering at lane closures seems to cause a lot of agro, as people queue way too early and get upset because someone carries on down the last 600 yards of the empty lane to the bottleneck. I often see lorries straddling two lanes to block traffic from doing this and various other intimidating acts from various vehicle drivers.

It's because people carry on down to the bottle neck that causes the queues in the first place, if everyone fell in at the back of the queue, they could carry on in single file without having to stop, go, slow, stop, go etc. etc... because some numpty has had to stop at the bottle neck and is now trying to barge their way in.

 

[B1ts]

It's because people carry on down to the bottle neck that causes the queues in the first place, if everyone fell in at the back of the queue, they could carry on in single file without having to stop, go, slow, stop, go etc. etc... because some numpty has had to stop at the bottle neck and is now trying to barge their way in.

This. Absolutely this

 

[B1ts]

Filtering at lane closures seems to cause a lot of agro, as people queue way too early and get upset because someone carries on down the last 600 yards of the empty lane to the bottleneck.

Then you werent filtering you were overtaking before a known lane closure.

I often see lorries straddling two lanes to block traffic from doing this and various other intimidating acts from various vehicle drivers.

Oh the irony lol, you saw but clearly did not understand nor realised it is you doing the intimidating.....

 

[Steve Smith]

But if that small number grew, then you would have a tailback of rightee left turners going all round the roundabout.

It would balance out as there would then be fewer people turning left in the normal fashion.

In Newport, in the middle of the Isle of Wight, there is this monstrosity of a roundabout: http://www.msmiw.co.uk/content/gallery/large/479.jpg

It covers enough space to put two football pitches within its boundary.

It is quite common for people to go all of the way round it rather than just turn left as the left lane leading into it from our only piece of dual carriageway (bottom left) has much longer queues than the other lane at peak times. It is really an oval piece of normal road. It has traffic lights on all but two entrances and has two pedestrian crossings going over it.


Steve.

 

[joescrivens]

That might well be the case with some lorries, I average about 900 miles a week most on the M4-M5. For anyone who does this sort of mileage and more you get a good idea of how the average person drives on the roads and what their attitudes are like towards other motorists. From my on experience I would say that it is not all that good to be honest, as for the likes of Joescrivens who thinks the right hand lane of a roundabout is for turning left, that just about sums it all up.

What does it sum up rich?

It doesn't cause any danger and it gets me home earlier. So why would I wait in line when I know I can perform a perfectly safe and legal manoeuvre that saves me time?

 

[Dave *]

It's because people carry on down to the bottle neck that causes the queues in the first place, if everyone fell in at the back of the queue, they could carry on in single file without having to stop, go, slow, stop, go etc. etc... because some numpty has had to stop at the bottle neck and is now trying to barge their way in.

The "numpty" would be the one in the right and driving to the rules of the Highway Code.

The idiotic "sheep" making a mile long queue in the left lane while the right lane is empty need to brush up on their driving skills.

 

[fracster]

What does it sum up rich?

It doesn't cause any danger and it gets me home earlier. So why would I wait in line when I know I can perform a perfectly safe and legal manoeuvre that saves me time?

You don`t have to Joe, because your so special, the whole world revolves around your good self, your needs and your desires.

It sums up an amazing level of conceit,selfishness and arrogance that comes across in many of your posts.

 

[nilagin]

The "numpty" would be the one in the right and driving to the rules of the Highway Code.

The idiotic "sheep" making a mile long queue in the left lane while the right lane is empty need to brush up on their driving skills.

As I wrote above there would be no sheep, as you call them, as the mile long queue is caused by the numpties and also proof that the highway codes method is wrong because it just won't work. If you join the back of the line and everyone has reduced their speed accordingly, you can all funnel through easily without having to stop start, stop start and you probably wouldn't even realise you were in a queue anyway.

 

[joescrivens]

You don`t have to Joe, because your so special, the whole world revolves around your good self, your needs and your desires.

It sums up an amazing level of conceit,selfishness and arrogance that comes across in many of your posts.

It's just common sense. Nothing more, why would anyone sit and wait in traffic when there is a quicker route? It's no different to turning around and taking a shortcut home. It's not about the world revolving around anyone, it's taking things in your own hands.

 

[new2me]

Then you werent filtering you were overtaking before a known lane closure.

Oh the irony lol, you saw but clearly did not understand nor realised it is you doing the intimidating.....

I wont go into the details mr bits, but i'm certainly not guilty of the intimidation i've witnessed.

 

[Dave *]

As I wrote above there would be no sheep, as you call them, as the mile long queue is caused by the numpties and also proof that the highway codes method is wrong because it just won't work. If you join the back of the line and everyone has reduced their speed accordingly, you can all funnel through easily without having to stop start, stop start and you probably wouldn't even realise you were in a queue anyway.

Write to your MP to get the rules changed then, the current UK rule is "merge in turn", it has been proven to be more efficient than "sheep in a line", so they might not take a lot of notice of you though.

Merge in turn when carried out by intelligent drivers should actually keep both lanes running, it's only the selfish idiots in lane 1 deliberately blocking drivers in lane 2 that cause the bottleneck to form.

 

[nilagin]

Write to your MP to get the rules changed then, the current UK rule is "merge in turn", it has been proven to be more efficient than "sheep in a line", so they might not take a lot of notice of you though.

Merge in turn when carried out by intelligent drivers should actually keep both lanes running, it's only the selfish idiots in lane 1 deliberately blocking drivers in lane 2 that cause the bottleneck to form.

It works to a point with just a few cars, but as car numbers increase eventually the merge point will get further and further back from the actual bottleneck. when the numpties continue to push their way to the front instead of merging at the new point, add to that people slowing right down to see the reason for them having to merge, that is where the queue occurs.

 

[B1ts]

Write to your MP to get the rules changed then, the current UK rule is "merge in turn", it has been proven to be more efficient than "sheep in a line", so they might not take a lot of notice of you though.

Merge in turn when carried out by intelligent drivers should actually keep both lanes running, it's only the selfish idiots in lane 1 deliberately blocking drivers in lane 2 that cause the bottleneck to form.

Nope its the ones in 1 waiting until right on top of the last cone to merge causing it.
Merging in turn in good time is the answer.

 

[nilagin]

Nope its the ones in 1 waiting until right on top of the last cone to merge causing it.
Merging in turn in good time is the answer.

Exactly and by joining the back of the queue you have merged in turn, but only intelligent drivers like yourself and I can understand that.

 

[B1ts]

I wont go into the details mr bits, but i'm certainly not guilty of the intimidation i've witnessed.

So pushing in at the last rather than merging in turn in good time is not intimidating but trucks using rolling blocks to stop you causing everyone else further delays is?

Trucks use the blocking tactic for learned reasons, they know it speeds overall progress to stop idiots causing the last second blockage and intimidating the people already queing getting through before your good self? ?
Obv hit a nerve for you to change my username, truth hurt? Or just selfish in taking others opinions too?

 

[new2me]

Sorry B1ts. I didn't realise you were so precious about the name.
I'll leave you to your childish assumptions.

 

[B1ts]

Sorry B1ts. I didn't realise you were so precious about the name.
I'll leave you to your childish assumptions.

Lol.
Not precious merely accurate and simple polite manners unlike certain road users in this thread. Byyeee.

 

[B1ts]

Exactly and by joining the back of the queue you have merged in turn, but only intelligent drivers like yourself and I can understand that.

Precisely

 

[Ricardodaforce]

So, to conclude then. We all agree that you should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past.

Yes?

 

[Yv]

So, to conclude then. We all agree that you should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past.

Yes?

Yes, agreed, whichis a good point to close this thread as the pedants and personal insulters are becoming a little over-whelming as usual, so apologies for cutting you all up off.