MORE light tweaking....

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You can thank EOS_JD for this! :D

I'm STILL trying ever so hard to get out of camera shots which require NO processing, and do not suffer from any FATAL flaws, allowing me to have a viewing requiring very little work before hand. Obviously, sold photos will be absolutely processed properly....

My current "test setup" is getting approx 240 to 250 on the red channels, with an almost completely blown wall.

See here:

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An INSANELY quick edit to bring my brightness back, still should be detail in 99% of the red channels:
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Feedback welcome (the photo itself has been very quickly selected from my last shoot)...it needs a very obvious sharpening here - much sharper in Photoshop for some reason.

Please remember this is merely for my viewing...

Gary.
 
Look a shade red to me on a calibrated on Firefox, but otherwise fine

Are your typical clients going to really notice, or care? They just look at little Chloe & Jack's expressions and open their wallets.

Anyway, white high key is sooooo 2009.
 
crystal clear shots Gary...looking a touch green/yellow/cyan on my monitor...only ever so slightly but i am calibrated....again....its us who will be picky, one look at those and parents will love them...

so 2009????? lol cheers..Tell that to Mrs Moore who is a single mum with teenagers and just spent £2500 with us on high key white bg portraits!
 
Kris said:
Look a shade red to me on a calibrated on Firefox, but otherwise fine

Are your typical clients going to really notice, or care? They just look at little Chloe & Jack's expressions and open their wallets.

Anyway, white high key is sooooo 2009.
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I get a real sinking feeling in my gut if the photo looks a mess, even if they can't see it. It destroys my ability to enjoy running this place.

I agree white BG is a bit over done, I always shoot white and black in the same session now, but would love a third permanent setup to really bring some more variety into the studio. There have been plans to get that third space for months, but I got too busy before I could finish setting it all into motion...

G.
 
WCG 519 said:
crystal clear shots Gary...looking a touch green/yellow/cyan on my monitor...only ever so slightly but i am calibrated....again....its us who will be picky, one look at those and parents will love them...

so 2009????? lol cheers..Tell that to Mrs Moore who is a single mum with teenagers and just spent £2500 with us on high key white bg portraits!
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£2.5K....

Jesus H Christ :D :lol:

My biggest spender was £800.....£2.5K is a pipe dream here at the moment.

G.
 
EdinburghGary said:
£2.5K....

Jesus H Christ :D :lol:

My biggest spender was £800.....£2.5K is a pipe dream here at the moment.

G.
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my record sale is 6k...........................:|

however.....out of 8 slots today...2 turned up, 1 no show and the rest moved to a different day..doesnt matter on the sales...if you dont shoot, you cant sell...and you if you shoot and sell images like the above Gary, then you'll have no probs in business this year!
 
WCG 519 said:
my record sale is 6k...........................:|

however.....out of 8 slots today...2 turned up, 1 no show and the rest moved to a different day..doesnt matter on the sales...if you dont shoot, you cant sell...and you if you shoot and sell images like the above Gary, then you'll have no probs in business this year!
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You sound like a guy who has lots of useful advice to give :) Can I email you?

G.
 
WCG 519 said:
crystal clear shots Gary...looking a touch green/yellow/cyan on my monitor...only ever so slightly but i am calibrated....again....its us who will be picky, one look at those and parents will love them...

so 2009????? lol cheers..Tell that to Mrs Moore who is a single mum with teenagers and just spent £2500 with us on high key white bg portraits!
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It was meant tongue in cheek.

I like it, its so easy to do and the punters lap it up. I wouldn't have it on my wall though.
 
Kris said:
It was meant tongue in cheek.

I like it, its so easy to do and the punters lap it up. I wouldn't have it on my wall though.
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Easy to do? Are you serious? :thinking:

It's INSANELY difficult to do properly, lighting a white BG sounds easy....far from the reality of the situation :)

Gary (at Darrens hence the username) Darren say's Hya :wave:.
 
Kris said:
It was meant tongue in cheek.

I like it, its so easy to do and the punters lap it up. I wouldn't have it on my wall though.
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When you have everything setup yes its easy... But getting it to that stage is not EASY imho....


If it was Easy then everyone would do it and the like of Gary would not get any customers....



ALL IMHO


MD
 
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Ill rephrase, with lastolite hilite and PS its easy. Dont really do full body on it though, takes too long in PS.
 
Kris said:
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Ill rephrase, with lastolite hilite and PS its easy. Dont really do full body on it though, takes too long in PS.
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I was not being funny but to light the b/g and the floor and get the reflection aswell . This all takes aot of working out ...


With the flooring Gary has he has to be carefull his side walls are not to dark as the floor will show this up...!!!!! To much white and he will get wrap around the subject.. Again not good...


All imho And I only shoot in my garage lol


MD
 
Reflections?

Nah. Don't like the glass cube effect to be honest.

I dont have a fixed studio though, and dont worry too much about things like dirty trains, and dont mind spending a short amount of time white cleaning in PS for a sale, and dont mind showing clients a non-perfect rendition out of camera and wouldn't bloody offer it if only they stopped asking for it! So 2009!

:)

Sorry for the thread hijack
 
:D It's all good, we all have our own way of working I guess, I took issue with the EASY comment as 6 months down the line, I still can't get it perfect out of camera....it's highly frustrating.

G.
 
Kris said:
Reflections?

Nah. Don't like the glass cube effect to be honest.

I dont have a fixed studio though, and dont worry too much about things like dirty trains, and dont mind spending a short amount of time white cleaning in PS for a sale, and dont mind showing clients a non-perfect rendition out of camera and wouldn't bloody offer it if only they stopped asking for it! So 2009!

:)

Sorry for the thread hijack
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REFLECTIONS ? I dont get this to start with... " SO much better than the floating white shots"

Glass tube ? your shots might be hmmmmm Gary wants to show cliemts 100% finished products..

I will spend two mins myself pp'ing images. for my customers....


MD
 
MD I think he means he prefers a shadow to the reflection, which is fair enough - I sometimes prefer a shadow depending on the shoot. And I would LOVE to show 100% finished produce, I feel at times I am a million miles off!!! The simple fact is, DISTANCE is something which would absolutely solve all my light issues....its the one thing I don't have :D

Let's all play nice!! :)

G.
 
EdinburghGary said:
MD I think he means he prefers a shadow to the reflection, which is fair enough - I sometimes prefer a shadow depending on the shoot. And I would LOVE to show 100% finished produce, I feel at times I am a million miles off!!! The simple fact is, DISTANCE is something which would absolutely solve all my light issues....its the one thing I don't have :D

Let's all play nice!! :)

G.
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This is the key. We're so lucky in that we have literally 50ft in which to work so can have clients 20 feet away from the BG if needed.
 
Hi Gary...sorry busy wknd...email away mate

i think given the choice, we'd all do things our own way..however, when (financial) times matter, what works for the client comes first..we are all in a customer driven environment, be it motorsport, weddings etc...if you have a product and it sells...(as my white BG does..(ps no offence taken from anyone! lol)) then why should we force our ideas on a client if they are still willing to spend??

if it feels right and works, go for it..
Gary..aint nothing wrong with your images i have seen on here, some stunners, some nice post work....i have studio with 8ft of white and i get 8 or so ft to share with a desk and sofa to shoot them with....
once i get the hang of uploading on here will post some...
 
Kris said:
Not with PS it isn't.

Not for me anyroad.
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When you're shooting in a busy studio the time taken in PP is time not shooting. I think the better you can get it in camera, the less work so the better the shot.
We had shots done at a local studio, white background that didn't look like it was lit evenly, but hey, he's the professional. Proofs had a very different greys background.
Final image was a poor mask and the background whitened. We didn't buy.
 
Gary,

You're really getting these now. I actually prefer the straight out of camera one though out of the two of them. The little girls face is too bright in the second one, in fact so is the boy's.
 
cowasaki said:
Gary,

You're really getting these now. I actually prefer the straight out of camera one though out of the two of them. The little girls face is too bright in the second one, in fact so is the boy's.
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For what it's worth that was my initial thought. I prefer a tiny hint of detail in the background to blown white.
 
ShawWellPete said:
For what it's worth that was my initial thought. I prefer a tiny hint of detail in the background to blown white.
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Me too, I would rather do 3-4 minutes of PP and get that extra detail. He is getting them very close without the PP though which is what he is after.
 
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