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After a couple of rides out ......and me leaving her behind, she has decided her bike is not up to it (well it is a £99 toys r us special) so we have been looking around for something nearly the same as mine and come up with the GT Aggressor which is nearly the same but has the AceraX bits instead of Deore, what I want to know is a Hydroformed frame the same as a Kinesis frame? I t looks the same quality and when I lifted it there didnt seem any difference in weight but bikes weighing 30g lighter can differentiate a £1000 bike to a £3000 bike nowadays