Mirrorless medium format Hassleblad

LongLensPhotography said:
....... The pentax wideangle options would be far bigger argument.
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The widest 645 lens is 25mm which has a similar AoV to 20mm in 35mm format. I suspect that the philosophy towards ultra wide lenses is that if you can't do it well then modern stitching software will likely produce better results.

Bob
 
Canon Bob said:
The widest 645 lens is 25mm which has a similar AoV to 20mm in 35mm format. I suspect that the philosophy towards ultra wide lenses is that if you can't do it well then modern stitching software will likely produce better results.

Bob
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20mm (35mm equiv) is pretty decent width and would work for most wide landscapes while being a tad tight for interiors. I can't imagine cleanly stitching a classical landscape with very close foreground and distant background unless shooting with a tilt and shift lens. Maybe it can be done but clearly it involves a lot of precision and hassle. You'd just rather use your good old 16-35mm f/4L IS Canon lens :)
 
woof woof said:
Good grief.

I had hoped we'd moved on from this.
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I didn't understand LongLensPhotography's comment about the Sony A7 not having a viewfinder as it clearly does - is there some "history" on this I'm not aware of?
 
ancient_mariner said:
That's what I was thinking too - not what I'd have considered even a small medium format, and being a 'blad it should really be 6X6. I appreciate sensors that size aren't exactly readily available, of course.
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As far as I'm aware there are no 6x6 sensor cameras - the largest sensor in current commercial products is 54x40mm which is still smaller than 645 film format. So presumably you don't consider the Hasselblad H-series to be "true" 'blad either then?
 
magicolor1 said:
I didn't understand LongLensPhotography's comment about the Sony A7 not having a viewfinder as it clearly does - is there some "history" on this I'm not aware of?
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It doesn't. It has 2 LCD screens, one of which is a tiny pixelated peeping hole simulating a viewfinder and frankly pretty unusable.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
It doesn't. It has 2 LCD screens, one of which is a tiny pixelated peeping hole simulating a viewfinder and frankly pretty unusable.
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Ah I see the problem then! So you don't rate any EVF of any manufacturer, or is it just Sony's implementation you don't like?
 
magicolor1 said:
Ah I see the problem then! So you don't rate any EVF of any manufacturer, or is it just Sony's implementation you don't like?
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I have no reason to single any one out. They are all low res, low dynamic range and too slow. When the technology leapfrogs to at least 4K resolution, flicker free and lag free view and so on I will happily look at it again.
 
magicolor1 said:
As far as I'm aware there are no 6x6 sensor cameras - the largest sensor in current commercial products is 54x40mm which is still smaller than 645 film format. So presumably you don't consider the Hasselblad H-series to be "true" 'blad either then?
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Historically Hassleblad have made 6X6 format cameras for film, and while I wouldn't hold them to that exclusively (especially when they can't possibly make their own sensors) it doesn't really seem to be in that spirit. I hope the company does well, but they won't have a 'true' successor to their original cameras until they have a 6X6 sensor.
 
ancient_mariner said:
Historically Hassleblad have made 6X6 format cameras for film, and while I wouldn't hold them to that exclusively (especially when they can't possibly make their own sensors) it doesn't really seem to be in that spirit. I hope the company does well, but they won't have a 'true' successor to their original cameras until they have a 6X6 sensor.
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Having worked in the IC design and manufacturing industry for many years, I'm accutely aware that the size of a sensor dictates the cost on an exponential scale. Some experimental sensors have been made up to (and probably now beyond) 10x8 inches, but the cost must be astronomical. The other issue is with faults in the silicon, where a normal chip (CPU for example) might be useless if there was a single fault at a critical point, so yield goes down as the size goes up. With image sensors I would imagine a few faults in a very large chip would simply be mapped out and ignored, as is done with hard-drive bad sectors, so the yield is improved.
 
anyone know if it has any image stabilisation ? ANd no I'm not buying one just curious lol
 
magicolor1 said:
I didn't understand LongLensPhotography's comment about the Sony A7 not having a viewfinder as it clearly does - is there some "history" on this I'm not aware of?
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Well, this could be a case of genuine ignorance or the poster being misinformed or it could be another tiring example of the view that some have of compact system cameras as glorified point and shoot cameras for women. Real men use DSLR's. Big heavy ones.

LongLensPhotography said:
I have no reason to single any one out. They are all low res, low dynamic range and too slow. When the technology leapfrogs to at least 4K resolution, flicker free and lag free view and so on I will happily look at it again.
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That's an interesting point of view but in reality I can see more through my A7 EVF than I ever saw through any DSLR OVF. OVF's and the guesswork involved in using them is so last century, the tech is moving on for those who see the advantages and want to embrace them.
 
woof woof said:
Well, this could be a case of genuine ignorance or the poster being misinformed or it could be another tiring example of the view that some have of compact system cameras as glorified point and shoot cameras for women. Real men use DSLR's. Big heavy ones.
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At one stage my standard kit was a three lens Bronica SQAM outfit with several film backs (this was a while ago, and pre-digital). Having had back trouble in the intervening years, I now prefer to use my Olympus EM5ii for most things and don't miss the weight of the Bronica. Not sure if the X1D is the right way to go for me personally but it's certainly interesting.
 
magicolor1 said:
At one stage my standard kit was a three lens Bronica SQAM outfit with several film backs (this was a while ago, and pre-digital). Having had back trouble in the intervening years, I now prefer to use my Olympus EM5ii for most things and don't miss the weight of the Bronica. Not sure if the X1D is the right way to go for me personally but it's certainly interesting.
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Larger sensor systems could be a small growth area and of course whilst these cameras are limiting in some respects they can do things that allow the user to stand out from the crowd a little. Maybe. They'll be out of the reach of many peoples pockets but if the rumours of other companies working on similar products are true the price could become relatively less prohibitive. They may only be a small part of the market share but interesting niche products are always welcome :D
 
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