medical trials

duttytd said:
Haha no i did mean premature as in ejaculation not immature hence why i said the Mrs said...
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Ah OK nice one :thumbs:
Everyone thought that you missed the point
with your "spelling" comment.
See, you are not as silly as you look are you? :D
 
Sonriendo said:
That's a bit mean :shake:

Let's face it he could just sit on his jacksy all day doing diddly squat. At least he's looking to better himself.
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tony would think there was something wrong if we didnt take the P out of him

Cobra said:
See, you are not as silly as you look are you? :D
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which given he looks like tyrone out of corrie , is just as well :D
 
£1,000 less travelling costs etc is a pittance for something that has the potential to change your life irreversably.

No amount of money would be enough for me to risk my health ( even when I was really skint.)

.....just my opinion.

Heather
 
Cobra said:
As per gramps going on the info that you posted

The drug that we are studying is for the treatment ofCOPD (Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)

It will be a new drug not yet on the market.
The clinical trials are pretty much the last stage, before they get approval (or not)
to sell it on the open market (well to doctors / pharmacists anyway)
And again as per Gramps you are fit and enjoy your sport, would you really risk (however minimal) the possibillty
of losing that?
I'm not anti, just playing devils advocate ;)
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I presume this is a trial of a new COPD treatment in healthy volunteers (ie you). This will presumably be a Phase 1 first in man trial, so you are the first otherwise healthy human "guinea pigs" to try it out to see what it does to otherwise normal humans.
Personally I wouldn't gamble my health for £1000 on a drug not previously trialled in humans. A lot of years ahead of you to regret that. Just my personal opinion though
 
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LowIQ said:
This will presumably be a Phase 1 first in man trial, so you are the first otherwise healthy human "guinea pigs" to try it out to see what it does to otherwise normal humans.
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Phase 1 trials aren't just first time in human.

ETA Tony - A really good question to ask if you do this, would be 'How many subjects has this been given to before and what side effects have been observed?'. They will answer you, but I guess only as part of the screening appointment down there not over email
 
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i think you're all frightening the bloke to death... all this 'risk your health' business. How many clinical trials do you think go on throughout the year? I think the only thing you'd need to worry about is how bored senseless you'll be couped up all day doing absolutely sod all.

I know loads of people who've done these trials.. mainly because they worked at Zeneca and they get access / first refusals on them and i've never heard ever of any problems. Worst case scenario's were feeling nauseous, lethargic, cold sweats..that sort of thing, but blimey.. you're a fighter aren't you? :boxer:

and as for 'paying a lot because of the health risk' scenario... £1000??? Really? hardly a drop in the embalming fluid for these drug companies :D
 
leftcurl said:
i think you're all frightening the bloke to death... all this 'risk your health' business. How many clinical trials do you think go on throughout the year? I think the only thing you'd need to worry about is how bored senseless you'll be couped up all day doing absolutely sod all.

I know loads of people who've done these trials.. mainly because they worked at Zeneca and they get access / first refusals on them and i've never heard ever of any problems. Worst case scenario's were feeling nauseous, lethargic, cold sweats..that sort of thing, but blimey.. you're a fighter aren't you? :boxer:

and as for 'paying a lot because of the health risk' scenario... £1000??? Really? hardly a drop in the embalming fluid for these drug companies :D
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*cough* here's a problem for you

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4815780.stm

Heard of one now?. Whats wrong with advice to go in with eyes open?
 
boyfalldown said:
*cough* here's a problem for you

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4815780.stm

Heard of one now?. Whats wrong with advice to go in with eyes open?
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oh yeh, i remember that case hitting the headlines in 2006 :thumbs:

i wonder how the risk compares to say;

getting on a plane
crossing the road
visiting the Olympics
walking down the stairs at home?

all frightening and scary in their own way if you think about it :D
 
leftcurl said:
oh yeh, i remember that case hitting the headlines in 2006 :thumbs:

i wonder how the risk compares to say;

getting on a plane
crossing the road
visiting the Olympics
walking down the stairs at home?

all frightening and scary in their own way if you think about it :D
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;D I'm not going to argue with any off your risks, but as I posted very early on I used to run these types if trials. I think understanding what you are allowing someone to do you is a very good thing.
 
sorry.. i should have added that i agree it is wise to go in with eyes open without doubt. Just wanted to make sure his eyes were open to the actual risk involved though.
 
SarahLee said:
The EMail says that it's a drug to treat Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease i.e. emphysema or related lung conditions (as Gramps said)

My mother in law died from emphysema 6 years ago and it's a particularly nasty illness. While she was ill she took a number of different drugs including steroids, inhalers and a cocktail of other drugs to combat the side effects of what she was taking for the emphysema.
How the drug being tested actually works for emphysema sufferers and what effect it may have on the lungs is one of the things I would want to ask about if I was considering this.

As others have said, it's your decision, but make sure you go into it with your eyes open and knowing what the potential risks are.
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Sorry to hear that, it's a terrible disease. Emphysema is not actually the same as COPD, it's very complicated how they overlap which makes global estimation of its prevelance pretty difficult.


These drugs are almost definately as safe as aspirin.
 
leftcurl said:
i wonder how the risk compares to say;

getting on a plane
crossing the road
visiting the Olympics
walking down the stairs at home?
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not forgetting that this is someone who regularly get in a cage and has the crap kicked out of him for fun - theres got to be a higher risk of complications from a bad kick or punch then there has from these types of trials.
 
I once did a drugs trial.

Got paid £5k

Only problem i have now is i cant find suitable trousers to hide my tail!! :D
 
samems said:
I once did a drugs trial.

Got paid £5k

Only problem i have now is i cant find suitable trousers to hide my tail!! :D
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ha ha...

Not read all the previous posts but I am sure about 99% are safe, and 1% may lead to mild to extreme complications... (few years back was in the news some died) ...sod that for £5k.
 
I once did a drugs trial

Got paid about £5k






all I had to do was hold out for an innocent verdict ... easy money :lol:
 
My father in law wanted to join up to do some drug trials but he got refused as they dont experiment on baboons!
 
samems said:
My father in law wanted to join up to do some drug trials but he got refused as they dont experiment on baboons!
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Haha that's particularly funny with your portrait pic :D
 
Darthchaffinch said:
because i work in the industry, and have been involved in this specific area. Aspirin would fail for some indications, but not for others.
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I'm sure you do. But I'm ma little lost as to how someone who works in the area can actually make that sort of claim without anything more then superstition to go on. What if this was a monoclonal antibody trial, say anti-CD3 (for example)?. You couldn't make those safety claims then.

So what do you do?
 
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boyfalldown said:
I'm sure you do. But I'm ma little lost as to how someone who works in the area can actually make that sort of claim without anything more then superstition to go on. What if this was a monoclonal antibody trial, say anti-CD3 (for example)?. You couldn't make those safety claims then.

So what do you do?
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It's not just superstition, you can tell from the trial details that the op posted. Not.that it matters but anti-cd3 is not a target for copd.
 
Darthchaffinch said:
It's not just superstition, you can tell from the trial details that the op posted. Not.that it matters but anti-cd3 is not a target for copd.
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Yes it is. How can you make that statement with no idea of the drug or the trial design? Anti cd3 was as said an example only. Again what do you do?
 
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My other half is a senior biomedical scientist in a pathology lab shes an advanced practitioner and she was saying drug trials go on all the time and not all are advertised as such. They dont ask for people to come in and all that they ask patients who are already being treated with other drugs.
 
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