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Anyone got a link to the Massive Dev Chart I dont want a App Just the chart that I can print
Thank you.
 
The overall chart would be huge but you can just select the combination you want and cut and paste that.
 
Is there a Massive Reciprocity Chart to match?
 
Thank you all for help, downloaded parts I need kept whole in file, just one small point Acros 100 not shown, am I to use Adox CHS 100 as a guide ?
Sorry if I am pain but I want to try and get off on the right foot when I start developing.
 
ChrisR said:
Is there a Massive Reciprocity Chart to match?
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You're running an Android phone aren't you? There is a good reciprocity app I use called Exposure Assistant, its accurate enough for everything I've tested bar Delta which is not anything like as bad as Ilford make out.
 
steveo_mcg said:
You're running an Android phone aren't you? There is a good reciprocity app I use called Exposure Assistant, its accurate enough for everything I've tested bar Delta which is not anything like as bad as Ilford make out.
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Yes I am, thanks Steven. I read reviews of one Android app where the author said it was just the published tables, and then a quite separate article where an author (different) said many of the published tables are doubtful and need to be supplemented with experience... just hoping for an app where the tables have been tested and actually work!
 
I'm starting to question the massive Dev chart app if I'm honest. Last few rolls I've used the manufactures timings instead. There some pretty big diferances. Interested to hear what others are experiencing. I've got so little experience I can't judge the outcome yet :(

Should ad, I'm only using hp5 and tri-x with d76 1:1. From 400-1600 so far
 
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I use near enough the recommended timings and concentrations for Acros and Rodinal and things turn out rather well. A single data point means nothing however...
 
brucegill said:
I'm starting to question the massive Dev chart app if I'm honest. Last few rolls I've used the manufactures timings instead. There some pretty big diferances. Interested to hear what others are experiencing. I've got so little experience I can't judge the outcome yet :(

Should ad, I'm only using hp5 and tri-x with d76 1:1. From 400-1600 so far
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Don't stick to a developing recipe just because the Massive Dev chart says so.

Massive Dev Chart only provides one possible starting point. You may also want to consider the developer manufacturer's recommendations, the film manufacturer's recommendations, the advice of other photographers, your own personal preferences, or any combination thereof. These various sources may provide the same starting point, but not necessarily, even for the same developer and film, so you'll likely need to experiment and adjust your exposure and development accordingly.
 
brucegill said:
I'm starting to question the massive Dev chart app if I'm honest. Last few rolls I've used the manufactures timings instead. There some pretty big diferances. Interested to hear what others are experiencing.
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Are they pretty big differences in timings or results?
 
This....

skysh4rk said:
Don't stick to a developing recipe just because the Massive Dev chart says so.

Massive Dev Chart only provides one possible starting point. You may also want to consider the developer manufacturer's recommendations, the film manufacturer's recommendations, the advice of other photographers, your own personal preferences, or any combination thereof. These various sources may provide the same starting point, but not necessarily, even for the same developer and film, so you'll likely need to experiment and adjust your exposure and development accordingly.
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...and this

The Massive Dev Chart is more reliable than the published data sheets released by manufacturers. Why? Because it incorporates the official information that you will find in the manufacturer's data sheets, AND it includes additional user submissions and amendments.

While some manufacturers, most notably Ilford and Fuji, provide excellent data based on their own in-house analysis, many other manufacturers are far less thorough. In fact, there are several official data sheets currently being published which include data from the Massive Dev Chart as the primary source, even though the manufacturers have never tested it themselves! If you study official data sheets you will notice that manufacturers often update the times even though no changes have been made to their products. Conversely, Kodak changed many times when they modified the film base on several products a few years back, but other published studies showed that the original times were more accurate. You can also see that, famously in the case of Agfa, they release different data in different countries. Trusting something just because it is printed by the manufacturer is does not offer any guarantee of accuracy.

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