Mars To be colonized within 10 years

u8myufo said:
Do they make Helmets big enough for Scrivens head :shrug:
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I've a got a horse feed bucket don't know if that would do it :shrug:
 
LCPete said:
Sorry but you cant be serious :)
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I am very open minded about all things and formulate my opinions on knowledge gained from reading as many sources as possible.

It is in brackets as there are people who do not believe, I never said I didnt believe.:)
 
Remember the speech Kennedy made in '61 about landing a man on the moon before the end of that decade? 10 years to get to Mars is highly improbable but certainly not impossible. Technology has a habit of being quite close to magic.
 
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canonrebel said:
I am very open minded about all things and formulate my opinions on knowledge gained from reading as many sources as possible.

It is in brackets as there are people who do not believe, I never said I didnt believe.:)
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Aww b****r. I'l feed the popcorn to the dog so.
 
canonrebel said:
I am very open minded about all things and formulate my opinions on knowledge gained from reading as many sources as possible.

It is in brackets as there are people who do not believe, I never said I didnt believe.:)
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had me going then for a minute :D
 
one of the larger obstacles to mars one is cost - they currently estimate that such a mission will cost USD 6bn , which naturally they havent actually got - and thats just the first estimate , based on technology thats not yet been developed (the cost of that development is also not included), and not including the cost of the selection and training programme.

there's a difference between being open minded and being a naive dreamer with no foundation in reality :cuckoo:

also they arent talking about a full colony in ten years, they are talking about 4 people on a one way trip - we don't currently have the ability to send something that can launch off mars so these 4 intrepid souls will essentially be commiting suicide (or would be if the whole thing wasnt completely impractical)
 
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We can't even manage the paperless office that was promised 30 years ago, let alone colonise another planet.
 
We already have people living on another planet. There called MP`s :bonk:
 
pepi1967 said:
I think the next thing NASA should do before thinking about getting men on mars is to actually get a spacecraft to RETURN from mars. They send landers but they haven't got anything there and back again yet.
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Never state the obvious mate, because that is like a red rag to a bull, many people think that travel to other galaxies is possible.
The ordinary person has absolutely no idea of the available technology and the risks involved in space travel.
 
andy700 said:
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The ordinary person has absolutely no idea of the available technology and the risks involved in space travel.
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I absolutely agree with the point your making, but the ordinary person is perfectly free to find stuff out for themselves.

If they can be bothered.
 
Heinlein is the master.

Anyone remotely interested in computer programming should read 666 the number of the beast.

An essay in computer logic, written in the 1940s.
 
big soft moose said:
Q1 - have they found out what happened to beagle yet ?
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I can actually answer that one. I used to work as ministry of defence security for EADS Astrium. We used to have to go abroad to Munich and Kourou for months at a time and guard the military satellites while they were being built in the clean rooms. Back then it was the Skynet 4 & Skynet 5 satellites https://www.paradigmsecure.com/our_services/skynet_4 before they were launched in Kourou. Astrium played a big part in the testing and construction of Beagle 2 I even have the company production Dvd filmed at the Stevenage Facility where I worked and it was presented by Kieth Allen.

But anyway, with all our greatest Scientists and rocket engineers, some idiot put some of the screws on the wrong way and Beagle didn't unfold properly when it landed on mars. So £40 million down the drain because one phd scientist, missed his morning coffee, didn't pay attention to a 5 minute job with a philips screwdriver
 
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big soft moose said:
thats got to be a wind up

amongst other things we havent even colonised the moon yet , but we intend to colonise a planet much further away ? In ten years time ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

as to the warp drive thing - traveling beyond the speed of light is both a physical impossibility , and even if it was acheivable it would be a really bad idea because you wouldnt see obstacles until after you'd hit them - and hitting even a bit of matter the size of a marble at light speed would lead to an enormous kinetic conversion explosion
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A Mars mission is on the cards in the next 20-30 years I'd say - that's a return mission though, not any form of colonisation.

NASA have been looking at Alcubierre's equations for a faster than light drive. It's theoretically possible but there are a few issues, the main one being that we have no means of producing the negative energy/strange matter required, and an equally large problem is the radiation front it would produce and it's effect on any target systems.

You don't take the vessel above lightspeed, you take a bubble of spacetime surrounding the vessel above lightspeed by shaping it. This is permitted in special relativity. The occupants of the vessel don't suffer any relativistic time dilation or inertial effects.

However, it's not likely to happen in our lifetimes. :D
 
archamedes said:
you can laugh all you like, I like to keep an open mind and stay optomistic on the idea. 10 years may seem a bit tight with everything they need to prepare for, but if we have the technology and the know how to do it, why wait?
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Cost. There are far more worthy projects here on earth.
 
What a ridiculous project.

I will bet anyone here £500 that it doesn't happen. Gradually over the years they'll start putting it back and back more and more it will just get delayed and then maybe 50 years from now it might happen.

So who's going to take my bet £500 that this project is not done by 2023?
 
To bear the cost of manned missions to Mars would need mountains of money, consequently would have to be an international effort with China providing the dosh and Yanks with the know how and India supplying the food.

We have likely taken bugs there already, even Demestos can only kill 99% of germs.
 
Yellowbelly said:
**<Pulls up chair and opens bag of popcorn>**

Don't you think the Americans actually landed on the moon?
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Oh, and here was me thinking today might prove boring.
Chuck us some of that popcorn :D
 
Perfectly do-able in ten years, I don't know why all the mocking on here. Good to have some people with a bit of ambition, without them you never get anything done.

Would have to know an awful lot more about the backers and business plan etc to be able to say whether they will succeed or not. It's just a question of resources.
 
mid_gen said:
Perfectly do-able in ten years, I don't know why all the mocking on here. Good to have some people with a bit of ambition, without them you never get anything done.

Would have to know an awful lot more about the backers and business plan etc to be able to say whether they will succeed or not. It's just a question of resources.
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Fancy taking me up on my bet then? :thumbs:
 
mid_gen said:
Perfectly do-able in ten years, I don't know why all the mocking on here. Good to have some people with a bit of ambition, without them you never get anything done.

Would have to know an awful lot more about the backers and business plan etc to be able to say whether they will succeed or not. It's just a question of resources.
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Probably need to go to china or japan because they seem to be the only people who have money, plus I think they would jump at the chance to being the first people on mars, they are very big on honor and success
 
archamedes said:
Probably need to go to china or japan because they seem to be the only people who have money, plus I think they would jump at the chance to being the first people on mars, they are very big on honor and success
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In the case of China, at the cost of all else...like human rights. :shake:
 
Sounds like a con trying to get you to buy merchandise and donate to another vaporware space idea. Going to Mars, never to return and rattling about in an oversized portaloo until you die seems like a terrible punishment.
 
The technology to do all this has been about for years. It's the cost that stops us.

If we stop giving money away to useless Countries and helping poor poeple we would have a base on the moon years ago.

Survival of the fittest.... always has been and always should be.

Time to fleece the moon and Mars resources.... Oh hang on, Not if Tescos go to Mars

Will Sean Connery be the marshal?

(Much better use of funds.)

Imagin Joe in space in zero gravity...... In space no one can hear him scream!
 
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Daryl said:
If we stop giving money away to useless Countries and helping poor poeple we would have a base on the moon years ago
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We're already 14 years behind schedule

Space 1999 had it all on the drawing board in the 1970s
 
wack61 said:
We're already 14 years behind schedule

Space 1999 had it all on the drawing board in the 1970s
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Yeah and see what happened to them!!
 
Steep said:
Yeah and see what happened to them!!
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Exactly they were made to wear jump suits and have a door key the size of a block of butter.
 
Daryl said:
The technology to do all this has been about for years. It's the cost that stops us.

If we stop giving money away to useless Countries and helping poor poeple we would have a base on the moon years ago.

Survival of the fittest.... always has been and always should be.

Time to fleece the moon and Mars resources.... Oh hang on, Not if Tescos go to Mars

Will Sean Connery be the marshal?

(Much better use of funds.)

Imagin Joe in space in zero gravity...... In space no one can hear him scream!
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Noooooooo I really don't want to hear about Joe's first Zero G bowl movement :puke:
 
MWHCVT said:
Noooooooo I really don't want to hear about Joe's first Zero G bowl movement :puke:
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Exactly. I feel just a little bit sick now :gag:
 
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