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20 years ago I used to have problems with local children on my estate getting up to no good and thumbing their noses when challenged. I found that a flash from a compact camera was instantly effective at stopping both the misbehaviour and backchat.
Given 10.y.o.s without adult supervision in a park, the mobility scooter, and the "no escape" comment it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was a similar kind of thing. Were I the letter writer I'd be grilling my daughter about events that led up to the photo...
Given 10.y.o.s without adult supervision in a park, the mobility scooter, and the "no escape" comment it wouldn't surprise me at all if this was a similar kind of thing. Were I the letter writer I'd be grilling my daughter about events that led up to the photo...
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i too was thinking like you well along those lines and knowing the area i was also thinking maybe they had taken their grandkids there to play. i feel the paper is being rather daft by printing the letter. make me want to go over there with my camera but i won't..
This is the sort of pathetic guff that has the whole nation thinking photographers are pedophiles - or terrorists, of course (smiley required not on the list!)
Another reason why I don't buy chip-papers..unfortunately my little protest won't stop it
Another reason why I don't buy chip-papers..unfortunately my little protest won't stop it
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oh come on, there's protecting your right to photograph in public places, and there's lurking around playgrounds taking photos of the children - big difference guys.
The quote from the old lady sounds kinda weird... probably innocent and harmless, but still a bit weird.
The quote from the old lady sounds kinda weird... probably innocent and harmless, but still a bit weird.
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Camera + mobility scooter = weirdo
it's the quote that sounds weird...
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Maybe a lot of vandalism/anti social behaviour and the camera is being used by a deterrent as potentially suspects could be identified.
Still doesn't seem 'normal' behaviour though...
Still doesn't seem 'normal' behaviour though...
Must be a p*** then
Instead of the furtive lurker who sits in a darkened room scheming and hiding...... 'Oh I'll make it obvious and go and be strange in the park with a camera and say scary things to frighten kids'
Smelly old woman on a disabled scooter
Kids can be pretty vindictive and hurtful - particularly to soft targets. What's to say this wasn't the case here?
Or is it another overreaction by a protective parent perhaps?
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Hah, I'm barely out of nappies myself
From the letter, it does sound as if it wasn't a legitimate issue, but in other contexts, there ARE imaginable situations where you could wonder. What if it hadn't been a couple, but just the old bloke on his own? What if he'd been wearing a trenchcoat, and using a 500mm lens? You'd at least -wonder- about his choice of subject matter...
I think it's a common sense issue really :/
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Sounds a possibility to me.
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When children are in a image,I tend to rush the shot and not check exposure and such.
This shot has been taken to quickly and suffered in consequence.
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Todays society I'm afraid makes paedophiles of most mail togs.....
This shot has been taken to quickly and suffered in consequence.
Todays society I'm afraid makes paedophiles of most mail togs.....
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Must be a p*** then
Unfortunately that is the way most people think these days. As soon as children are mentiones their brains (the little they have) disengage and they turn ferral.
That was my point Roger.
Paedophilia has very probably always been there it's just that the double edged sword of greater communication has brought it into everyones home and life.
The trade off for that is that anyone who has the temerity to look at children, talk to them or, heaven forbid, photograph them is perceived to be a pervert.
This elderly couple may have been engaged in the wrong kind of activity, I suspect the odds are against it, but the reaction of the parent in the article along with some of the contributors here have become typical in modern society, ( with some justification, possibly). I also suspect the couple may well be mortified to be thought of in this way. I may be wrong, of course.
In my opinion that is a great shame - because, at serious risk of being labelled a 'P****' I think kids are brilliant, (I have three of my own and can't wait to be a granddad)
Paedophilia has very probably always been there it's just that the double edged sword of greater communication has brought it into everyones home and life.
The trade off for that is that anyone who has the temerity to look at children, talk to them or, heaven forbid, photograph them is perceived to be a pervert.
This elderly couple may have been engaged in the wrong kind of activity, I suspect the odds are against it, but the reaction of the parent in the article along with some of the contributors here have become typical in modern society, ( with some justification, possibly). I also suspect the couple may well be mortified to be thought of in this way. I may be wrong, of course.
In my opinion that is a great shame - because, at serious risk of being labelled a 'P****' I think kids are brilliant, (I have three of my own and can't wait to be a granddad)
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The really interesting thing from a purely psychological point of view is that the article never mentioned paedofilia, it's only been mentioned by the people in this thread and then only paedofilia, There are many more things that you can do to harm a child, and from the article and indeed the quote I'd be more fearful of violence against the kids.
I've known it happen in situations like Imagical described where the locals have been so peed off by the kids that they've actually gone out and beaten them with any object close to hand. "There's no escape" can be taken as a threat.
I'm not making a dig at anyone in this thread nor do I intend for it to get personal, it's just an observation that people are saying they're sick of P**** obsessed over protective parents, and yet they were the first ones to mention being a P****.
On a final note I do also share the frustration with people on here when it does come to photographing kids in public. When I take my kids to the playpark and photograph them I am always aware of the other parents, and although I've never been approached by any of them I do appreciate what some of them must be thinking.
I've known it happen in situations like Imagical described where the locals have been so peed off by the kids that they've actually gone out and beaten them with any object close to hand. "There's no escape" can be taken as a threat.
I'm not making a dig at anyone in this thread nor do I intend for it to get personal, it's just an observation that people are saying they're sick of P**** obsessed over protective parents, and yet they were the first ones to mention being a P****.
On a final note I do also share the frustration with people on here when it does come to photographing kids in public. When I take my kids to the playpark and photograph them I am always aware of the other parents, and although I've never been approached by any of them I do appreciate what some of them must be thinking.
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This is the sort of pathetic guff that has the whole nation thinking photographers are pedophiles - or terrorists, of course (smiley required not on the list!)
Another reason why I don't buy chip-papers..unfortunately my little protest won't stop it
Agreed on all counts.
Pathetic Guff indeed!!