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Hi folks, I hope all is well.

I want to get a macro lens and I currently use the S5 and G9/GX9 systems.

I just wondered if there were any disadvantages to using M43 over FF for macro photography.

Reason for asking is I may at some point move away from the S5 / L mount system (waiting to see what comes out in the not too distant future) but I will keep my G9/GX9 regardless. So don't want to commit to the Sigma 105 at £600-£700 for the S5 if I later move away from the L Mount. But if M43 is good for macro then I may just get a lens for my G9 and leave it at that.

I hope that makes sense.

Adam
 
There are a load of macro shots taken with MFT on this site but you may have to hunt for them.

I sometimes use a film era MF Sigma 50mm f2.8 1:1 macro on my MFT cameras and I do know that the Oly 60mm is well thought of.

I suppose one thing to think about is going for a manual focus film era macro as if you do change systems the chances are that it'll work on whatever you get as long as you can get an adapter.
 
I suspect there's a major disadvantage to counter the increased DoF - much closer working distance.
 
I have had various macro lenses on my Olympus one of the best being the 60mm Olympus AF one but I have settled with a Chinese Pergear 60mm f 2.8 MF simply because it gives a 2:1 ratio with non extending lens .. saying that I have very little with it this year .. the main advantage of Olympus lens and Olympus body though is the cameras inbuilt focus stacking which works extremely well
 
Hi folks, I hope all is well.

I want to get a macro lens and I currently use the S5 and G9/GX9 systems.

I just wondered if there were any disadvantages to using M43 over FF for macro photography.

Reason for asking is I may at some point move away from the S5 / L mount system (waiting to see what comes out in the not too distant future) but I will keep my G9/GX9 regardless. So don't want to commit to the Sigma 105 at £600-£700 for the S5 if I later move away from the L Mount. But if M43 is good for macro then I may just get a lens for my G9 and leave it at that.

I hope that makes sense.

Adam
Assuming you use the same focal length on both formats, you get two advantages due to the image size needed to fill the M43 sensor being roughly half the size needed to fill the full frame sensor: More depth of field and greater working distances. The importance of these (depending exactly on what type of close up photography you want to do), cannot be overestimated.

If, however, you use a 50 or 60mm macro lens on m43, and the 105mm on FF, while still gaining depth of field, you lose the working distance advantage.

Depending on how close you are working (ie the magnification needed) you cannot rely on, for example a 100mm lens doubling the working distance of a 50mm lens as it depends on how the different lenses achieve their close focussing capability.

With many lenses they do this , not by extending the lens (the old fashioned way), but by changing it's focal length as it focusses closer. So, for any given magnification, you end up with a much shorter working distance than a simple optical calculation would suggest. Knowing the marked focal length of a lens, when it comes to close up photography, is not a good indicator of working distances. You need to check the closest focusing distances and magnification values from the lens specs. I don't know what these are for the obvious 60mm M43 macro, compared to the Sigma you mention

There are two possible advantages of FF for close up photography,

The first is when you want to minimise depth of field. Most of the time this is the opposite of what you want, but I occasionally take close ups of flower photographs with a 300mm f4 on FF, because I want a super soft foreground and background with only slivers of of flower(s) in focus. But this is unusual, and even with the increased depth of field from M43, it's still generally pretty narrow.

The second possible advantage is the M43 vs FF image quality debate, and this depends a bit on what you intend photographing. With Closeups, the subject tends to be relatively large in the frame, so the impact of noise is probably less important than in some other types of photography. I suspect that generally there will be little obvious/important quality advantage from FF.
 
Thanks for the responses folks.

It will mainly just be flowers, critters and things like that, water droplets and such.

I like the macro photography as it lets you see things in a different way.

I'm not a pro so it's not for amazing watches, or advertising or anything like that
 
If I look at the 45mm f2.8 Panasonic macro lens it gives me a minimum focus distance of 20 cm. The sigma 105 is 31.2 from what I have read on the web.

On my old canon M5 Mkii I had the tiny little 28 mm lens and in super macro mode you could get really close, think it's was something like 15 mm or something.
 
As I was trying to say earlier there are a host of macro lenses for MFT from lots different makers .. Chinese MF ones being the most frequent ..I have had several different makes and as yet to find a bad one . . I tend to lose interest in macro after a while then sell then find the need again so buy another one
 
We have the Sigma 105mm and 50mm and the Tamron 90mm, my personal fav is the 105, but they are all great quality.
 
One thing to think about is the perspective you want. Personally, I like longer macro lenses and I loved the Sigma 150mm f2.8 I had years back for Canon.
 
Just following on from this, has anyone used the below lens (not necessarily L Mount)?

Laowa 90mm f2.8 2x Ultra Macro APO Lens for L-Mount

Seems this has a 2:1 capability rather than the typical 1:1. I suppose it lacks some features like the Sigma 105
 
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Just following on from this, has anyone used the below lens (not necessarily L Mount)?

Laowa 90mm f2.8 2x Ultra Macro APO Lens for L-Mount

Seems this has a 2:1 capability rather than the typical 1:1. I suppose it lacks some features like the Sigma 105
I use an EF 100mm 2x Ultra Macro, not sure of the differances. The lens is great, full manual can put people off, but the extra mag' is nice to have, my lens is very sharp and I think they all are.
 
Thx for the input folks. I've just got a 30mm 2.8 macro for the M43 for now. Cost me £120 new as traded some junk I don't use in.

Won't be the best I know, but I was using the canon 28mm one for the M line cameras previously and it was okay.

Once I decide to stick or twist in full frame I'll grab one for the full frame also. For now this opens up some extra fun and means I no longer have to use my mobiles macro setting
 
Thx for the input folks. I've just got a 30mm 2.8 macro for the M43 for now. Cost me £120 new as traded some junk I don't use in.

Won't be the best I know, but I was using the canon 28mm one for the M line cameras previously and it was okay.

Once I decide to stick or twist in full frame I'll grab one for the full frame also. For now this opens up some extra fun and means I no longer have to use my mobiles macro setting
Enjoy Adam,im getting into Macro as well, such a great deal of subjects without going far which for someone like myself(agraphobic) is a benefit.
 
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