mac book pro retina?

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hovering at the moment between plain old mac book pro or the seductively named retina display...

Looked at both, wondering is it really worth the extra megamilliontrillion pixels?

I can't help but ask myself will it make me even less satisfied with the sharpness of lens/camera? will it turn me into a pixel peeping freak :thinking: (well, more so than usual! :lol:)

if anyone's had pro and gone to retina display, has it made any significant difference to your images / processing?

hoping to hear your thoughts :)
 
It'll make your images look even sharper and far more detailed. For the first time you can see all the detail in those megapixels!

That's what my iPad 3 with it's retina display does anyway!
 
You can see the sharpness difference when comparing a standard MBP to a Retina one.

Will you zoom in to see if it is sharp or pin sharp. Yes of course you will. I shoot a fair bit tethered and I can see easily that things are sharp ( or not ) straight from the screen. I will zoom in if I know that the image is going to enlarged a fair bit, just to be sure.

As far as processing is concerned. No it hasn't made a significant difference to the way I process images, in either Lightroom or Photoshop. However I can see quickly if an image is really sharp or not . The rMBP does reveal a lot more detail. It's screen is not as reflective as the old one which helps.

Still unsure. Take some of your images to the Apple store ,there is a good one in Southampton, and compare the images in Photoshop. If you can see a difference, and can justify the cost then go for it.
 
If you were thinking of putting extra memory and ssd in a normal macbook pro then you may as well get the base retina as it works out much better value for money...
 
dejongj said:
If you were thinking of putting extra memory and ssd in a normal macbook pro then you may as well get the base retina as it works out much better value for money...
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What? Where are you getting that from! Its far cheaper to upgrade yourself for RAM and SSD which is both do-able under the warranty. My MBP just gone in with a dead Airport card with my Own RAM and SSD in...

Never get upgrades done at Apple, unless-A) You have crap tons of money, and B) The machine isn't Upgradeable(Retina MBP)

Simon
 
SimonUK said:
What? Where are you getting that from! Its far cheaper to upgrade yourself for RAM and SSD which is both do-able under the warranty. My MBP just gone in with a dead Airport card with my Own RAM and SSD in...

Never get upgrades done at Apple, unless-A) You have crap tons of money, and B) The machine isn't Upgradeable(Retina MBP)

Simon
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You know the overreactions on this forum are tiring at times :thumbs down:

Box stand standard 15" Macbook Pro is £1,499 with 4GB of memory and a 500GB 5400rpm standard drive...The retina is £1,799 with 8GB of memory and a 256GB ssd..So £300 difference...

Speck it up at apple and the normal is £1,979....£180 dearer...

Sure you can buy the parts separately, and some may like to tinker with their shiny new laptop, and many don't. It is about direct comparisons...So and even if you did that, then the memory and quality ssd will set you back at least £200 meaning it is only £100 for the screen...

But hey if you want to go budget, why not buy a Dell and turn it into a mackintosh, that is even cheaper :rules::bonk:
 
dejongj said:
You know the overreactions on this forum are tiring at times :thumbs down:

Box stand standard 15" Macbook Pro is £1,499 with 4GB of memory and a 500GB 5400rpm standard drive...The retina is £1,799 with 8GB of memory and a 256GB ssd..So £300 difference...

Speck it up at apple and the normal is £1,979....£180 dearer...

Sure you can buy the parts separately, and some may like to tinker with their shiny new laptop, and many don't. It is about direct comparisons...So and even if you did that, then the memory and quality ssd will set you back at least £200 meaning it is only £100 for the screen...

But hey if you want to go budget, why not buy a Dell and turn it into a mackintosh, that is even cheaper :rules::bonk:
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I wasn't having a Dig, i've brought a Mac, and i've Brough Dells. I don't see the problem in putting upgraded parts in when the parts themselfs are covered by their own warranty, and the Computer is still covered with those parts in.

And most apps on the Screen suck anyway, its going to be at least a year before Adobe and everyone else gets their act's together and upgrades everything so it doesn't look Dire on the screen...
 
odd jim said:
It'll make your images look even sharper and far more detailed. For the first time you can see all the detail in those megapixels!

That's what my iPad 3 with it's retina display does anyway!
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thanks, but is that a good thing or not?!? I'm incredibly critical of my own work and often overlook the viewability/likeability/composition in favour of how sharp it is. There was a thread on here a while back about artistic content vs. sharpness... I remember commenting that one of my favourite images was beautiful and really spoke to me, but it wasn't sharp at all! (the image was an Annie Leibovitz portrait of Sigourney Weaver in a fishnet bodysuit if you're interested)


neil_g said:
youll have to decide whether the screen is better than no upgradability, no CD drive, adapters for ethernet and external screens, no anti glare screen option.
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I've not upgraded my Dell which is about 6 years old, and tbh, I don't really like to 'fiddle' too much as I always seem to come a cropper and have to get the local IT person in to unmuddle my mistakes! LOL!


Chappers said:
You can see the sharpness difference when comparing a standard MBP to a Retina one.

Will you zoom in to see if it is sharp or pin sharp. Yes of course you will. I shoot a fair bit tethered and I can see easily that things are sharp ( or not ) straight from the screen. I will zoom in if I know that the image is going to enlarged a fair bit, just to be sure.

As far as processing is concerned. No it hasn't made a significant difference to the way I process images, in either Lightroom or Photoshop. However I can see quickly if an image is really sharp or not . The rMBP does reveal a lot more detail. It's screen is not as reflective as the old one which helps.

Still unsure. Take some of your images to the Apple store ,there is a good one in Southampton, and compare the images in Photoshop. If you can see a difference, and can justify the cost then go for it.
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thanks, yes, been into Apple Southampton. Great idea to take in some of my own images to view - didn't think of that! :)
thanks, great advice!


dejongj said:
If you were thinking of putting extra memory and ssd in a normal macbook pro then you may as well get the base retina as it works out much better value for money...
Click to expand...

SimonUK said:
What? Where are you getting that from! Its far cheaper to upgrade yourself for RAM and SSD which is both do-able under the warranty. My MBP just gone in with a dead Airport card with my Own RAM and SSD in...

Never get upgrades done at Apple, unless-A) You have crap tons of money, and B) The machine isn't Upgradeable(Retina MBP)

Simon
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:shrug:

dejongj said:
You know the overreactions on this forum are tiring at times :thumbs down:

Box stand standard 15" Macbook Pro is £1,499 with 4GB of memory and a 500GB 5400rpm standard drive...The retina is £1,799 with 8GB of memory and a 256GB ssd..So £300 difference...

Speck it up at apple and the normal is £1,979....£180 dearer...

Sure you can buy the parts separately, and some may like to tinker with their shiny new laptop, and many don't. It is about direct comparisons...So and even if you did that, then the memory and quality ssd will set you back at least £200 meaning it is only £100 for the screen...

But hey if you want to go budget, why not buy a Dell and turn it into a mackintosh, that is even cheaper :rules::bonk:
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can you really do that?!?! more info please! :thumbs:

SimonUK said:
I wasn't having a Dig, i've brought a Mac, and i've Brough Dells. I don't see the problem in putting upgraded parts in when the parts themselfs are covered by their own warranty, and the Computer is still covered with those parts in.

And most apps on the Screen suck anyway, its going to be at least a year before Adobe and everyone else gets their act's together and upgrades everything so it doesn't look Dire on the screen...
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thanks for your comments everyone :thumbs:
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Maria

Just an additional thought. If you go back to the Apple store check out you test images in Aperture as this is now optimised for the Retina display. make sure its ver 3.3 though.

John C
 
Well my retina MBP arrived an hour or so ago. Just installed CS5 on it as that is what I have and it works perfectly. Only issue is that the icons are a tad smaller but, hey, that matters not. The photo images are superb. I got the 2.6GHz 512Gb 16Gb model and it flys :)
 
Isn't Lightroom still not compatible with retina display? In theory that doesn't matter as the image should go to the external 27" screen, but then what is the retina display for?
MS Office looked dreadful in apple store on it, so it's just for apple apps at the moment. It is a nice fast machine, and don't get me wrong I am considering buying one, but I'd much rather have a smaller (13) and cheaper version with same spec.
The transition to retina is well overdue for all the systems, but considering how long people take to upgrade it maybe 5+ years till it becomes a 'standard'
 
It sort of depends on the settings. If you set it for maximum resolution then it uses all the pixels just like being on a big monitor. That is how I have it set and both CS5 and MS OFfice look ok to me. I've not had chance to stick LR on it yet as still copying library onto external drive etc. will post my views later but
 
cowasaki said:
It sort of depends on the settings. If you set it for maximum resolution then it uses all the pixels just like being on a big monitor. That is how I have it set and both CS5 and MS OFfice look ok to me. I've not had chance to stick LR on it yet as still copying library onto external drive etc. will post my views later but
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I'll be interested in your views. I'm running an ageing 17 incher with 1920x1200 display. It's time for a replacement and I refuse to accept a lower resolution. Sadly 1920x1200 seems now to be dead, leaving only one serious option on the table. I don't want scaling so I'm also looking at buying a Retina laptop and running it at full resolution. I don't care if things are small, so long as I can read them.
 
tdodd said:
I'll be interested in your views. I'm running an ageing 17 incher with 1920x1200 display. It's time for a replacement and I refuse to accept a lower resolution. Sadly 1920x1200 seems now to be dead, leaving only one serious option on the table. I don't want scaling so I'm also looking at buying a Retina laptop and running it at full resolution. I don't care if things are small, so long as I can read them.
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That is exactly what I went from! I was waiting for a new 17" model but it seems unlikely now (but still possible). On the retina display you cannot set the resolution directly you set a resolution preset type and compromise so I set "scaled" and "more space". With that the computer treats it as a high resolution screen. I think the idea is that Apple treat it like a display of half the resolution and then have text and graphics at twice the resolution something like a super AA feature. Obviously most software doesn't know of this and effectively it looks wrong. Using the setting I've found everything looks better than the old 1920x1200 display I had as the software basically seems to treat is like a 2560x1600 monitor or something like that. Why it doesn't have the OPTION of using the actual 2880x1800 or whatever it is I don't know but this works well. Maybe someone will find a way round it.
 
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