LX3, G10 or something else ?

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Am looking for something that I can carry with me most of the time and use when my DSLR is stuck at home.....

I'd like something high quality, both image quality and build quality.

What do you guys use / recommend ?

Cheers,

Andy.
 
I have a G10 and I'm really chuffed with it. Perhaps a bit too complex at times but build quality is superb. It's like a mini 1Ds!

In good light it is cracking and I've taken good A3 prints from it.
 
I had LX2 and am having G9 with me now. Canon G9,G10 are more solid and powerful on control in my opintion. Lx2 is like a compact camera, but G9 is a bridge camera level. Which is better? I don't know.

Have you seen Ricoh GR-D? It is fixed focus lens. Very good to carry with all the time.
 
AndySwinden said:
Has anyone anyone used / seen both ? How do they compare ?
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I've just bought an LX3 off chillimonster who moved to a GF1, have a look at his 365.

Whilst everyone seems happy with the GF1s there is quite a price hike, and that's before you add extra lenses etc......You'd assume however that thequality will be better, and it will be smller than your DSLR.

The Canon seems quite 'chunky' for a compact, the LX3 is a bit smaller, I'd def recommend having a look at both in a shop if you can.

Ricohs are also meant to be great GRII I think, not often mentioned on here not sure why.
 
i sold my g9 to buy an LX3, it's much smaller & lighter. The controls on the LX3 are a bit fiddlier but the size & the fantastic wide lens make up for it, IMHO. Both take great photos in good light.

I'm tempted to change the Lx3 for a GF1, mind... :)
 
I'd like to see this thread develop too... perhaps with some input from Chilli who has made the move from LX3 to G1. I too want something to carry all the time and was set on a LX3/DLux until I saw the G1!

Again, image quality is my main factor, as well as portability.

I'd like to be able to get grainy low light B&W's, as well as vibrant colour shots of the kids. Full manual and aperture priority control. Ability to shoot RAW, though I'd quite like to be able to set custom jpeg styles myself.
 
WAIT! don't rush in, get yourself a new Ricoh GXR due out mid December.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0911/09111001ricohgxr.asp

I have just been reading the 'p'review of it and it looks promising :)

Been trying to decide between the Panasonic GF-1 or an Olympus E-P2 but this throws another spanner in the works.

I already own a Sigma DP1 so the slower AF i am used to and tbh doesn't bother me in the slightest, it's still faster than manual so I dont see what the fuss is about, I would hardly choose one of these for it's action capabilities, so that not a deciding factor.

So now I will just have to wait to try the GXR out in the flesh :)

Oh decisions, decisions!
 
CScottMcQueen said:
I already own a Sigma DP1 so the slower AF i am used to and tbh doesn't bother me in the slightest, it's still faster than manual so I dont see what the fuss is about, I would hardly choose one of these for it's action capabilities, so that not a deciding factor.
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I wouldn't worry about the AF speed of the Oly's TBH.
The AF speed of the E-P1 is fine (I friend with a Pan G1 tried the E-P1 and stated it seemed faster than his G1, and the Oly had much less shutter lag).
And people don't seem to complain about the G1's AF Speed or Shutter Lag (and not many '5D2 owners' complain about the 5D2 AF's), so I guess it depends on what you are used too.
Obviously the GF1's is faster/better/etc - but depends on your requirements.

Continious AF on the Oly is pretty poor though, which for me it's really a worry. The only thing I'd (notice I said 'I') really use 'Continious AF' on this style of camera is Video, but TBH - unless the camera can attach an external mic (or you video without sound), then Continious AF makes ar too much noise to be useful (which I have read is a problem with the E-P1 and GF1)

The E-P2 does have the option to attach an external mic (like the GH1), but I'm not really sure I'd be bothered to attach an external mic for quickly shooting some video of the kids, as that's the only time I use video really.

The E-P1|P2 with the kit lens is more compact than the GF1 due to the Oly lens design, which for me is a real selling point. Another selling point of the Oly is the Body IS, but not really a talking point unless you plan to have a 'system'.
If you are a prime person, theres no difference in size.

The built-in flash, faster AF, usable Continious AF and 20/1.7 seem to be the advantages of the GF1.

Not sure about the Ricoh GXR for me - as I don't think I'd want to have to buy a image processor, sensor and lens in one. I understand why they have done it, but to me it seems like it's been done to provide the best IQ for a small camera, rather than to provide an affordable small camera with great IQ.
i.e. it's about size and form factor, rather than cost.
 
68lbs said:
I'd like to see this thread develop too... perhaps with some input from Chilli who has made the move from LX3 to G1. I too want something to carry all the time and was set on a LX3/DLux until I saw the G1!

Again, image quality is my main factor, as well as portability.

I'd like to be able to get grainy low light B&W's, as well as vibrant colour shots of the kids. Full manual and aperture priority control. Ability to shoot RAW, though I'd quite like to be able to set custom jpeg styles myself.
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:wave:

I bought the LX3 in August as i wasnted the best compact i could get, IQ wise, to allow me to capture family images rather than lugging the DSLR around as i found that this was hindering my enjoyment of the family time i had. I seemed to be worrying more about the pictures and less about spending quality time with the kids.

As can be seen but the images below it does a fantastic job and is immensly versatile with its wide fast lens and reasonably good low light performance. Some see the 60mm max focal length as an issues, but in reality thats the beauty of the LX3. It may be limited, but what it does it excels at.

So, you may ask, why did i sell it and buy the GF1???

I found that the more i used the LX3, the more i left the DSLR's at home and it got to the point that they were only being used in the house. I even ended up doing a Guides Christmas card shoot with the LX3 with an external flash and it was just so easy to use!

So the decision was made to 'sell-up', so out went the Canon 50D and the Olympus E-30 and associated lenses and flash, out went the LX3 (even though i loved it) and in came a Panasonic TZ7 (for the Mrs to use as its simple to use and has excellent HD video capabilities) and i got the GF1, which is like the LX3 on steroids. Its slightly bigger than the LX3, but still small enough to go everywhere with the wonderful 20mm 1.7 on the front of it, and i get the lower DOF that i like on DLSR's. The DOF on the LX3 is good, but cannot match the larger sensors (if thats your thing), but at base ISO (80 on the LX3) the picture detail is fantastic.

Do i regret changing from a LX3 to a GF1 - NO

Do i rate the LX3 - Hell yeah!

Anyways - on to the pics......
 
You'll notice that most of these are B&W- that's just my 'thing' and in no way is down to the lack of abilities of the LX3, which has a wonderful tonality to the colour images that are tweakable in PP (i use lightroom to handle the Panasonic RAW files)
 
Rumour has it that Nikon is about to do something similar to the GF1 :shrug:
 
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