Lumix TC230 or Canon 450D or New SLR

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I know very little about photography and normally use a digital compact camera, a Lumix DMC-TZ30. I also have an old Canon 450D (Rebel) DSLR camera with an 18-55mm lens and a 75-300mm USM lens from the pre digital era. I never use this now, mainly because I understand so little about photography and like the convenience of a digital compact, whenever I did use it then it was in full auto mode. I will be going on a three week holiday soon, mainly to view wildlife and I am thinking of taking my SLR along. I then started thinking if it is now so old that maybe my Lumix will actually take better pictures. The Lumix is 14MP and the Canon 450D is 12MP. So my questions are: Is my 450D togethjer with the 75-300 lens still worth taking ? Should I invest in a new SLR say the Canon 100D or 750D ? or should I just stick with my Lumix ? All contributions welcome
 
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Hmm, difficult. And welcome to TP, by the way.

Let's think about pixels. Your Lumix has 14 MP, your Canon has 12MP, and a new DSLR would probably have 18-24 MP depending on what you get. All of those numbers are plenty high enough. If you're looking at photos on screen, most computer monitors these days have about 2 MP, same as a HD TV. If you're sharing images on line you're probably under 1 MP. You can print any size you like with only 6 MP. So 12 MP or more is plenty, and gives you plenty of scope to crop the image if the animal doesn't fill the frame - so long as they are high quality pixels to start with. And my concern would be whether any of your lenses would be good enough to deliver that kind of resolution. I doubt that any 20x zoom, as you have on your Lumix, will be that good; and your Canon zoom is so old that it probably isn't up to the task either.

I suspect you'd get the best bang for your buck by upgrading your 75-300mm lens. For less than the price of a new DSLR you could get a very competent 70-300mm-type lens which would be perfectly adequate for most wildlife (so long as we're not talking about small birds!) and would enable you to get the best out of your Canon DSLR.

A new DSLR would give you more pixels, more frames per second, better low light performance, video, etc - but none of those are really of much value if the images being delivered to the sensor by the lens aren't good enough.
 
Have you shot wildlife before? And what sort of wildlife - animals, birds? Being brutally honest, if you can't use a DSLR on anything but full auto then you have however long 'soon' is to conquer a steep learning curve as to successfully shoot wildlife you need to get off auto mode. For stationary or slow moving animals/birds the 450D will cope. If you want birds in flight or charging lions, for example, you'd be better off with a newer camera with a better autofocus system and higher frames per second, but if your knowledge and technique isn't up to it, you'll still fail. Then there's the 75-300mm lens (the 18-55mm is far too short for wildlife unless it's big and right in front of you). You say it's pre digital but is it autofocus and how well does it suit the 450? If it isn't up to it then leave the DSLR at home. My advise would be:
Break out the 450 and long lens and the camera manual (download one if you don't have it). Probably the simplest settings for a beginner for wildlife are Manual mode (M on the top dial), aperture around f7.1 or 8 (you don't want the lens wide open) shutter speed as high as it will go in the light you have (I would suggest 1/600 or 1/800 minimum) and set the iso to auto. The camera will then use the iso to control the exposure. It's not the same as full auto as you are controlling the shutter speed and aperture. Use the centre autofocus spot only as it's the most sensitive on your camera. Ideally your focus point should be your subject's eye/s. You can play with the metering but I'd suggest evaluative if the 450 has it. That'll do for most situations so long as you're not shooting something pure white, pure black or shooting into the light (which is never great with wildlife anyway). Set servo autofocus and continuous shooting, that way you can fire off a few (slow!) frames by keeping your finger on the button. Practice. practice, practice.
However................. if you haven't done any of this before and this is a wildlife holiday then the danger is you'll get hung up on photography with a setup you're not used to when you might have been better just viewing and taking home the memories in your head. Maybe take both cameras, but limit the photography to when you are absolutely sure you can get a shot without stepping outside your capabilities. Then when you get home, if the wildlife photogaphy bug has truly bitten, do as Stewart says and upgrade the lens. The Tamron 70-300 has a good reputation without being expensive and will work well with the 450D. When you outgrow that think about the Tamron/Sigma 150-600, which is a whole new learning curve in itself. Only go for a new camera when you know that what you have is holding you back, as you'll almost certainly need something a step up from the xxxD range by then. The 750D has a much more advanced autofocus system (another learning curve) but still only manages 5 fps on continuous shooting, which is still fairly slow. To get better you need to spend a lot more money, which is why I'm still using a 550D with my Sigma 150-600mm............
Good wildlife photography is only partly about the kit you use. A big part is about you and how you use the kit. If you practice with the 450 and need some help, post some examples of your shots with all the settings you used and someone will always help.
Another thought - if the 450 hasn't been used much recently take a close look at the battery and maybe consider getting at least one new one. Driving a long lens, servo autofocus and lots of checking the previews on the screen (we all do it) will hammer the battery.
Oh, and shoot jpeg, not raw, otherwise continuous shooting won't be worth it, and tbh most wildlife shots don't need the additional data raw gives you.
 
Thank you both for these two very helpful answers. The 75-300 USM lens is a Canon. I will test using the settings suggested by Jannyfox and see what happens. The holiday is in the Falkland Islands and we depart on January 9th. We travel widely but always travel light hence the use of a compact camera but this holiday will be different. The wildlife will be mostly birds and penguins but hopefully with a few seals and sea lions. I also want to capture the landscape better than I can with a compact camera. I really need a crash course in photography but realistically that isn't going to happen, I am planning to buy a book, The Dummies Guide to the Canon 450D which may help.
 
Be sure to take the shorter lens with you for landscape. I've never been to the Falklands, though I'd love to, but I would imagine it to be a place where you really want full control over your camera to do it justice. Read the book, read the manual, but don't try to learn everything at once or you'll end up really confused. When I was learning digital (not that long ago after a lifetime of fully manual 35mm) I found if I just concentrated on one little bit at a time the basics came quite quickly. Then it's just practice, on everything and anything you can, before you go. Soon after getting my DSLR I went to the NW of Scotland for 2 weeks and the amount I learned just from constantly using the camera on landscape and wildlife (I'd never really been able to shoot wildlife with my old cameras) was phenomenal. Keep the manual with you as I found I was constantly forgetting things and having to refer back to it, and even if you're using the 'semi auto' modes look at the camera settings for every shot. Then if you're not happy you'll have a good idea what to change and how, and experiment. I would normally say shoot raw for landscape, but that does depend on your processing capabilities. Raws always need processing but retain all the data that the jpeg compression loses, however you won't always notice the difference, especially if you turn all the camera's 'image enhancement' features off. Might be an idea to shoot your landscapes raw+jpeg, then you have both to play with. Take lots of memory cards! Just a hint for the long lens - some long lenses are a bit 'soft' at their max focal length so it helps to back it off slightly. You should be fine with penguins and seals. Good luck. :)
 
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