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I do miss a camera for lower light situations, used to have a d7100 and thinking of getting a D7200 or a d610, as prices are very similar now, is there any great difference between them? Would not rule out mirrorless but I'm guessing? They still wouldn't match for low light ?
 
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Low light ability is down to sensor size not whether it has a mirror or not. The d7200 is apsc and the d610 is FF. If you bought a apsc mirrorless it would be comparable to a d7200 and if you bought a FF mirrorless it would be comparable to the d610 in its low light ability.
 
rjbell said:
Low light ability is down to sensor size not whether it has a mirror or not. The d7200 is apsc and the d610 is FF. If you bought a apsc mirrorless it would be comparable to a d7200 and if you bought a FF mirrorless it would be comparable to the d610 in its low light ability.
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Yes I'm aware of that but from what I've read and seen on some reviews the newer processor on the D7200 is comparable with the FF or at least difference is minimal , and for example the X-T1 not as good, that's why I'm asking so maybe users could clarify if there's much real difference
I don't want to be spending xt2 money which I've no doubt is better.
 
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Have no lenses starting from scratch again.
I would prefer a smaller system ideally but there's aways compromise and at some point I'd want a decent longer zoom for casual birding ( I use an fz300 for that at moment) other systems don't have the array of lens choices for both situations that Nikon and third party have. I know fuji have excellent primes and a 100-400 but they're more than I'd want to spend.
 
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I have had a D80, D300 and currently have a D7000 that my wife is learning to use. The D7000 is decent in ok light. Over the years in talking to local photogs who had full frame cameras (especially D700s) I got the itch to go full frame. I got a used D700 and it is fantastic. Much better in low light than the D7000. The D750 came out and I thought there was no way I'd get one as the emphasis seemed to be going to using video and I couldn't see the point. Fast forward a couple of years and the desire to have even better low light performance and I took months to decide between a dx D500 and an fx D750. I found a really good deal on a D750/Nikon battery grip/24-120f4 combo. I jumped on that and am so glad I did. The low light performance of the D750 I consider magical. The noise/grain is so fine and is so amenable to slight tweaks from noise software. All this to say... if you can afford to go full frame/fx, do it.
 
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I have had a D80, D300 and currently have a D7000 that my wife is learning to use. The D7000 is decent in ok light. Over the years in talking to local photogs who had full frame cameras (especially D700s) I got the itch to go full frame. I got a used D700 and it is fantastic. Much better in low light than the D7000. The D750 came out and I thought there was no way I'd get one as the emphasis seemed to be going to using video and I couldn't see the point. Fast forward a couple of years and the desire to have even better low light performance and I took months to decide between a dx D500 and an fx D750. I found a really good deal on a D750/Nikon battery grip/24-120f4 combo. I jumped on that and am so glad I did. The low light performance of the D750 I consider magical. The noise/grain is so fine and is so amenable to slight tweaks from noise software. All this to say... if you can afford to go full frame/fx, do it.
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D600/610 would be sufficient for my needs and prices are pretty low now so that's why they came into the frame
 
Sensor development has slowed down somewhat. You are talking about very small improvements with each new camera or sensor. You can compare the difference on dpreview. I find the xt1 images cleaner than the d7200 at higher ISO. That one of the reasons i left Nikon to buy a xt1.

Link below compared studio images of the d7100, d7200, xt1, xt2.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/im...=1&x=-0.3322329930769392&y=0.8637676631995651
 
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I thought the best low light cameras were the Sony a7S II, or Nikon D7200, or Canon 5D Mark III

I guess it depends on what other equipment you own.
 
The D610 has a significantly higher effective ISO noise relative and thus notably better noise handling.
 
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Byker28i said:
I thought the best low light cameras were the Sony a7S II, or Nikon D7200, or Canon 5D Mark III

I guess it depends on what other equipment you own.
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The Canon 6d has the edge over the 5d3 in low light. It has slightly less noise at high ISO, and its centre AF point is the most sensitive on a Canon body making it perfect for low light.
 
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The Canon 6d has the edge over the 5d3 in low light. It has slightly less noise at high ISO, and its centre AF point is the most sensitive on a Canon body making it perfect for low light.
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I'd agree on long exposures at low ISO's but at 130K iso, the 5d mk3 has the ability to capture in virtually no light conditions. Couldn't believe this came out
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I'd agree on long exposures at low ISO's but at 130K iso, the 5d mk3 has the ability to capture in virtually no light conditions. Couldn't believe this came out
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I know, its very good. The 6d amazes me. Believe it or not I was shooting dusk football the other night and their floodlights failed, but I managed to get very good images with decent shutter speeds at silly ISO.
 
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Depends what you call low light. There's a big difference between sitting in a hide on a murky day looking for that competition winning shot of a kingfisher diving compared to shooting in town centre at night on a tripod.
 
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mickledore said:
Depends what you call low light. There's a big difference between sitting in a hide on a murky day looking for that competition winning shot of a kingfisher diving compared to shooting in town centre at night on a tripod.
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Low light is just low levels of light though surely, you're jut talking about different techniques.
 
odd jim said:
Low light is just low levels of light though surely, you're jut talking about different techniques.
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True. But shooting birds in flight on murky days arguably places more demands on your equipment than a long exposure on a tripod. Maybe you can compensate to some degree by having fast lenses but I'm not sure OP wants that expense....yet.
 
mickledore said:
True. But shooting birds in flight on murky days arguably places more demands on your equipment than a long exposure on a tripod. Maybe you can compensate to some degree by having fast lenses but I'm not sure OP wants that expense....yet.
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True as much as I love wildlife photography, time is an issue and a lot of it I do walking to or from work which is through countryside, hence the fz300 and why I sold all my gear some time back, it's funny how you miss it.
I do miss the fast lens for other things which the small sensor can't really cope with. I want something more capable for a trip to Mexico later this year.
Theres too much choice [emoji16]
 
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It's always a compromise though, size, weight, performance, cost!
 
i must admit i am tempted by the 6d but rumors are mk11 due out within a month or two.
 
niko said:
i must admit i am tempted by the 6d but rumors are mk11 due out within a month or two.
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That rumours been around for the last 18 months!
 
odd jim said:
That rumours been around for the last 18 months!
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the mk11 rumour has but it seems to be gathering a bit of momentum recently, no harm waiting a couple of months to see one way or the other. you never know it might be right!
 
niko said:
the mk11 rumour has but it seems to be gathering a bit of momentum recently, no harm waiting a couple of months to see one way or the other. you never know it might be right!
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True, but don't wait too long! Of course, a mk2 would also mean mk1 prices drop.
 
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