Low cost wide angle for my Nikon D810?

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I've been looking at a Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 for my D810 but I'm reading conflicting articles, some saying it won't work well on an FX body. Is that true? If so does anyone have any suggestions for a low cost but good quality wide angle lens?
 
The Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 is designed for DX (APS-C) bodies not FX (full frame) bodies so whilst technically it'll work on a D810 it will suffer severe vignetting as the image circle it produces is only designed to cover an APS-C sensor and not a full frame.

I can highly recommend the 18-35mm f3.5-4.5G, superb sharpness and detail.
 
Nikon 18-35G, if you don't need faster or wider.
 
Thanks for the replies. The 18-35 looks interesting, I'd like it for landscapes so I'd like something sharp. The primes would be nice but I'd like the zooms for versatility.

Anything else or should I go with the 18-35?
 
I like the 18-35mm but is does have some significant distortion at the wide end of things, such that I sold mine. You can correct of course. I've now had three Tokina 20-35mm 2.8s, two for Nikon and my original Canon. I sell 'em as I don't do wide much, then I regret it when I don't have one and go hunting for another!! It's easily wide enough on a FF and has great colour and contrast. You don't get such distortion as with the 18-35. You can often pick one up for £200-230 or so if you're lucky. It's a unknown superstar lens ;-) and for that money and as a fast wide it's a good buy.
 
I like the 18-35mm but is does have some significant distortion at the wide end of things, such that I sold mine. You can correct of course. I've now had three Tokina 20-35mm 2.8s, two for Nikon and my original Canon. I sell 'em as I don't do wide much, then I regret it when I don't have one and go hunting for another!! It's easily wide enough on a FF and has great colour and contrast. You don't get such distortion as with the 18-35. You can often pick one up for £200-230 or so if you're lucky. It's a unknown superstar lens ;-) and for that money and as a fast wide it's a good buy.

That's more in the price range I was looking and a benefit that it's faster too. Slightly worried I haven't heard of it before mind.
 
Fair enough. You can't get new anymore as discontinued and only cheap used as no one's heard of them. You'll be lucky to find one. I'd say just keep a look out as they do pop up now and again still and you may bag one even cheaper. I'm not selling mine.
 
That's more in the price range I was looking and a benefit that it's faster too. Slightly worried I haven't heard of it before mind.

Fair enough. You can't get new anymore as discontinued and only cheap used as no one's heard of them. You'll be lucky to find one. I'd say just keep a look out as they do pop up now and again still and you may bag one even cheaper. I'm not selling mine.
Is there a finders reward;)

There you go, a Tokina 20-35mm > http://www.ffordes.com/product/15092812593431
 
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Great choice I'd say and hope it works out for you. It's kinda the ideal range for a FF walkaround I think. It would be great hear your thoughts once it arrives!

Surprised there were lots available but then I double checked and most are not the nice 2.8 version. Even so, still a couple there which still surprises. All Japanese. Looks like prices are holding up as I've always spent between £200-£250 for one.
 
I like the 18-35mm but is does have some significant distortion at the wide end of things, such that I sold mine. You can correct of course. I've now had three Tokina 20-35mm 2.8s, two for Nikon and my original Canon. I sell 'em as I don't do wide much, then I regret it when I don't have one and go hunting for another!! It's easily wide enough on a FF and has great colour and contrast. You don't get such distortion as with the 18-35. You can often pick one up for £200-230 or so if you're lucky. It's a unknown superstar lens ;-) and for that money and as a fast wide it's a good buy.
Are you referring to the 18-35mm G or the old D lens? I've not noticed any significant distortion with my copy (newer G lens).
 
The older one. I didn't know there was a G model out now.
 
I've got a tokina 20-35 2.8 I might be able to sell ......
 
I loved my 14mm samyang and wish I'd kept it now! Takes a while to get a good sharp corner to corner one! If you find one you'll never sell it!
 
I got the Tokina in the end and it's very soft at 2.8, in fact it's soft up until about f4.5. I can't see any clear sign of back or front focus either. Is it that I have a poor copy or is this expected. I really wanted a wide angle that would be sharp wide open.
 
I would for sure expect any less than super premium widey to be a bit soft wide open. I have never owned a wide that wasn't. For landscape and street shots I generally shoot at minimum f4, more often 5.6 or even 8 depending on the light. I have had Canon L's (multiple copies of the 17-40), Zeiss, Voigtlander and all needed stopping down for best results. I'm sure there are some who will counter that and they're entitled to their views, but have a look at any wide open shot they use as evidence and I mean in its RAW form. I just think it's a little in the nature of the beast. Widey lenses don't have that critical sharpness you get with say a classic 50mm design. The 20-35 is the same. Really, I'd say only my Zeiss 25mm 2 was anywhere close to 'sharp' and constrasty wide open. Even then the corners tended to be soft until stopped down. That's a £1200 lens. So there're two possibilities. The first is that for your budget you may have unrealistic expectations. The solution is to decide what is a fair expectation and work with that, or selling it and saving up maybe £600+ and getting something better. Second is you do have a duffer. You can only post some shots on tripod, remote release at say 2.8, 4, 5.6 and 8 to judge if what you get is acceptable. If there are clear focus or displacement issues then get a refund. You want a nice shot in good light with verticals and horizontals across the frame and then do some simple PP on it and then judge. You should get good sharpness and contrast with minimum effort. If you can't get that then it's probably not right. Lenses you have to enjoy and want to use and trust to deliver. If you don't feel right with one I always think better get rid. But I also think, from experience, every lens needs to be properly tested before judging. If you do that you can feel reassured you've given it its best shot. I've always been fine with my copies and I'm very particular. But I'm also aware that any cheaper lens means compromises and because I'm not a big wide angle shooter I prefer not to spend too much and so accept them.
 
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Thanks for getting back to me @condyuk. I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I like to shoot landscapes but have only ever used Canon#s 17-40mm which was also a little soft wide open but not quite as soft as what I'm seeing with the Tokinon. I've put together a sample sheet which i was hoping you (or any others) could look at and tell me what they think. I want to like the lens and if it's a case of it not being a dud then I'd be happy to work with it at a higher aperture until I can afford a step up to the elite glass.

 
If they are 100% crops then TBH I feel like buying another NIkon body to use with mine :-) I would be happy with those. It does depend if they're centre of the frame and whether you're shooting at 20 or 35mm, but broadly I'd say it looks OK. The 17-40 L was one of my favourite lenses when I shot Canon but I went 20-35mm because I just so rarely used it but still wanted something decent in my bag. From memory, I mainly shot 5.6 with the L. It's clear where the sweet spot on your 20-35 is and so I'd use it between f4-8 if it was mine. You have good contrast there. A good thing about this lens is the build and feel and for me it's a lens I've enjoyed using. I'd be really surprised if another zoom up to £300-400 gave you anything better overall. You'd likely need to look at a 20 or 24mm type prime to stay close to your price band and get better results ... you'd still have to stop down tho to get best performance.
 
They were at 35mm and 100% crops. Pleased to hear you think it's decent. Yes I can see from 4 to 8 is the sweet spot. I'm going to get out and take a few landscapes and see what comes. Thanks for the help.
 
Good idea. A big thing with landscapes IMO is contrast and so the light in the moment makes or breaks the shot. Hazy or overcast days will give dubious results not related to the lens or shooter. Two hours ago here the light was perfect to test a lens as colour and contrast rocked, now it's gonna rain and is well overcast and everything is flat :-) Good luck!
 
The Samyang 14mm is one of the best if not the best ultra wide angle I have ever used
 
For the price that is! Actually even well beyond its cost. Yes it has distortion but it's built well, handles well and is tack sharp
 
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