"Lost" - Definate Spoilers!! BEWARE

The whole Egyptian thing is fascinating anyway. Scientists are still at a loss to explain their origins - (the whole civilisation seemingly just suddenly appearing) or how they built their pyramids and gained the knowledge of the heavens to construct those shafts from the burial chambers pinpointing certain stars with laser accuracy.

The Sphinx is an even bigger mystery still, thought by some to date from the last Ice Age 11000 years or so ago.
 
Jacob and "Smokie" are angels, sent to protect the "source" of this power that is on the island.
Smokie, like many of the angels, has fallen subject to power (and the power of this source) and believes that humanity should not be granted such a gift and such power. They will use it to destroy each other and everything else and they themselves should be destroyed. This is a similar situation to lucifer, as he was a fallen angel banished to hell for eternity because he wanted gods powers etc.

I may be over complicating things here, and they may just be gods of some sort. Richard has been on the island for a very long time, and may well be like a jesus figure if Jacob was a god. He passes on Jacobs messages to the "others" (Jacobs followers) which would make him in biblical terms Jesus.

The egyptian theme is something that is yet to make total sense to me, yet it has to be something to do with how they were once worshipped as gods by another race which has since gone on to destroy itself, leading to Smokie making the comment of "They come. They fight. They destroy. They corrupt. It always ends the same." Jacobs response means that there is only one true ending, and that will be when humanity totally destroys themselves.

Going back to the angels and demons theory, it is said that Angels and Demons walk amongst us, yet they are not allowed to dictate our paths/force us into choices and we must find our own ways, however they are allowed to "whisper" to us and maybe guide us to making our choice. This is where Smokie has been whispering to Ben, and a few of the others by becoming figures of the dead.

Another point which leads Smokie to being to smoke monster is that he can reap his vengence against humanity as they commit acts against gods will/sin!

Ok, lazyness kicking back in, might type more later as more people speculate :D
 
CT said:
The whole Egyptian thing is fascinating anyway. Scientists are still at a loss to explain their origins - (the whole civilisation seemingly just suddenly appearing) or how they built their pyramids and gained the knowledge of the heavens to construct those shafts from the burial chambers pinpointing certain stars with laser accuracy.

The Sphinx is an even bigger mystery still, thought by some to date from the last Ice Age 11000 years or so ago.
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Absolutely, the mind boggles as to how they managed it.

Gary.
 
Ok one thing:

How do we know Jacob isn't old smokie?
 
Also, I'm with Matty re. "Black shirt Dude" being other people (but perhaps not just dead people - what about Walt and other mysterious sightings).

Also, what happened to Claire?
 
CT said:
The whole Egyptian thing is fascinating anyway. Scientists are still at a loss to explain their origins - (the whole civilisation seemingly just suddenly appearing) or how they built their pyramids and gained the knowledge of the heavens to construct those shafts from the burial chambers pinpointing certain stars with laser accuracy.

The Sphinx is an even bigger mystery still, thought by some to date from the last Ice Age 11000 years or so ago.
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Don't read this page!!

The mind boggles :D

http://www.netscientia.com/egypt.html
 
"What lies in the shadow of the statue"??

Ive read that when Richard replies in Latin, it means something along the lines of "he who will save us all"...which implies Jacob is good and will save them from evil.

Just thought that was interesting.

Also when Ben sees the picture in the temple it has the black smoke and an Egyptian God...the black smoke could be the black-shirt dude and the egyptian could represent Jacob as he lives in the statue?
 
ive had a thought, Richard Alpert goes to locke when hes a kid, he knows locke will be not locke and knows that he will kill Jacob, but he doesnt know why, so maybe he goes back to see him, afterall, jacon went and saw each of the main characters at some point...

the polar bears were on the island as part of the dharma studies, they simply escaped, remember sawyer and kate were kept in the cages way back in season 3
 
matty said:
ive had a thought, Richard Alpert goes to locke when hes a kid, he knows locke will be not locke and knows that he will kill Jacob, but he doesnt know why, so maybe he goes back to see him, afterall, jacon went and saw each of the main characters at some point...

the polar bears were on the island as part of the dharma studies, they simply escaped, remember sawyer and kate were kept in the cages way back in season 3
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But Locke never killed Jacob. Ben killed Locke, and Black Shirt killed Jacob (whilst he was pretending to be Locke)...
 
Galokin said:
"What lies in the shadow of the statue"??

Ive read that when Richard replies in Latin, it means something along the lines of "he who will save us all"...which implies Jacob is good and will save them from evil.
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No idea how this would work, but read it on another forum. What ACTUALLY is lying in the shadow of the statue? Locke's dead body!!?
 
sypix said:
No idea how this would work, but read it on another forum. What ACTUALLY is lying in the shadow of the statue? Locke's dead body!!?
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Oooooh. Talk about throwing us a curve! :thumbs:
 
Never watched it EVER I dont watch TV at all....is this one of those series where in ten years time you all deny being a trekkie sort of thing,watcher
 
EdinburghGary said:
But Locke never killed Jacob. Ben killed Locke, and Black Shirt killed Jacob (whilst he was pretending to be Locke)...
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"Fake Locke" did kill Jacob. Ben just stabbed him, but Locke kicked him into the fire.
 
sypix said:
No idea how this would work, but read it on another forum. What ACTUALLY is lying in the shadow of the statue? Locke's dead body!!?
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Surely though Locke's body would only "lie in the shadow of the statue" after Alahna and her peeps brought him to it in the big silver crate?:thinking:

Damn the theories could go anyone of a trillion diff places.
 
Finally got round to seeing this. Haven't read all the above comments, but for my part, found it a bit of an anticlimax tbh.
 
Couldn't agree more Gary. I'm currently re-watching series 5 so it's fresh in my mind when series six starts. Can't wait to see how it all ends.
 
I'm going to be really pee'd off if they can't bring this to a sensible ending, and I'm increasingly having my doubts if they can. I've found the whole series totally compulsive viewing, but the whole thing has just become so complicated it's difficult to stay abreast of it. Superb TV without a doubt but 'The Sopranos' was another great series which came to a very inconclusive ending leaving youi thinking WTF? The problem with 'Lost' is that the writers have developed the plot as they've gone along, flying by the seat of their pants from one episode to the next.

We'll see..
 
Mark.A said:
Couldn't agree more Gary. I'm currently re-watching series 5 so it's fresh in my mind when series six starts. Can't wait to see how it all ends.
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I'd watchd a few of the catch up eps shown on Sky1 during the day. Hope it was enough fora good refresh! Can't wait!!
 
Phew!! thought I was becoming a sad old git:D:D don't normally watch much telly but I started to watch this with the BH about the 3rd Jan. Just could'nt stop. Watched series 1-4 in as many weeks and have just finished series 5 last week.
I've got to say it's doing my nut in. Still none the wiser as to whats going on after all this time, but can't wait for the next series(BT vision which is miles behind Sky) so think it will be a while:(
 
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:D

Well it was.
 
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LOL It must be me then. We now have two lots of survivors existing in 2 different time periods - how does that work? :thinking: Is Jacob dead or not? He was burned to death, yet turns up telling people he's dead. :thinking:

Still watching religiously and still totally mystified. :D
 
CT said:
LOL It must be me then. We now have two lots of survivors existing in 2 different time periods - how does that work? :thinking: Is Jacob dead or not? He was burned to death, yet turns up telling people he's dead. :thinking:

Still watching religiously and still totally mystified. :D
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Notice JACK in the non island reality, starting to get confused. I predict the two jacks are somehow converging into one another, and the two universes cannot co exist - almost along the lines of Donnie Darko / Star Trek Alt Reality type of thing....

However, each week throws a new spanner in the works, and makes it almost impossible to keep your theories on track - it's mind bending....

So, here's what I think happened.

1: Juliet triggered that NUKE.
2: The instant the NUKE exploded, it unleashed that energy.
3: We know the energy causes the time travel.....
4: Losties time travel back to the future (from 1970ish), and the bomb continues to detonate....

So in reality 2, because the bomb detonated, the island and everything that should have happened, does not happen. Because the island is under water, the plane doesn't crash, and the losties continue with their alternative life.

Back in reality 1, the losties were not killed by the detonation because the energy made them time travel to the future first. The future at that point was the one we watched in seasons 1 to 5, as at that point, the bomb was only starting to detonate.

So now we have two realities, co existing, and some form of overlap I feelm especially with JACK. He is starting to experience physical signs of things that happened on the island, yet he doesn't even know about the island. He is also recognising faces etc.

What I can't quite work out, is what JACOB and SMOKEY are arguing over. Or how HURLEY can see Jacob, or how the lighthouse works.....or really anything else :D

Anyway, episode 6 was badass.

G.
 
LOL. I don't think I'm cut out for it. :lol:

And Jack and Hurley are candidates!!! :suspect:
 
CT said:
To take over from Jacob?
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Not sure if it's that simple. Maybe though. Just had a thought though.....

What if Jacob can jump between the two dimensions? If that's the case, then yes - his replacement. I honestly think the jack in the NEW reality is about to peek into the island somehow, he's going to eventually be able to jump between realities maybe. Perhaps even meet himself. Perhaps only certain people can see guys from the OTHER reality. In otherwords, Hurley can see Jacob (Jacob from the other reality, he's dead in this one).....

God damn absolutely bloody confusing,

G.
 
What channel is it on I can't seem to find it?......................
 
CT said:
Still watching religiously and still totally mystified. :D
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That just about sum up my Lost experience too :thumbs:
 
tiler65 said:
What channel is it on I can't seem to find it?......................
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EdinburghGary said:
Sky One.....

Are you relatively up to date? It's not a show to just drop in on....you can't have missed any eps.

G.
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Sorry Gary, it was my attempt at a gag.

Never watched it but I am always a little unnerved by how people can become obsessed/anal about TV progs.
 
tiler65 said:
Sorry Gary, it was my attempt at a gag.

Never watched it but I am always a little unnerved by how people can become obsessed/anal about TV progs.
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To be fair, we get served up loads of dross on TV - Lost is definitely a good example of the top end stuff that TV can produce when it really tries. ' The Sopranos' was another as was 'Rome'
 
EdinburghGary said:
I think Jack is THE candidate

G.
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Yeah I think that is the case too. Jack always was a special character in the show from the start and I think Jacob is starting to show that now. I'm addicted to watching it and can't wait for my lost fix. Although it takes about 2 hours to watch as me and the mrs constantly pause it to thrash out ideas to each other. Then get a headache from it all :bang:
 
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