Loaded 2nd Gen Amazon Fire Stick off ebay?

They are illegal to sell

Also illegal to access the streams of subscription content that you have not paid for
 
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The law is cracking down on people selling these. Nothing against buyers AFAIK. Some anecdotal reports that some of the channels don't work.

TBH if you really wanted to do this yourself, it'd be a lot cheaper.

Obviously can't condone the use of these kodi sticks.
 
omens said:
The law is cracking down on people selling these. Nothing against buyers AFAIK. Some anecdotal reports that some of the channels don't work.

TBH if you really wanted to do this yourself, it'd be a lot cheaper.

Obviously can't condone the use of these kodi sticks.
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Not cracking down too hard if it's so easy to find someone online on ebay selling them!!
 
kennysarmy said:
How does it manage to access content that you would normally pay for?

Why can't SKY etc stop this?
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Sky (and others) have been to court, rights holders have powers now to shut down / block streams during broadcasts of football matches. The power is of limited value for various technical reasons.

I anticipate fewer people here popping their heads above the parapet saying that since rights holders are rich then using streams etc is perfectly acceptable, what with photographers being creators of intellectual property. But maybe I'm wrong and some photographers are also hypocrites.
 
Expect streams to randomly stop working as they get shut down.

Also with Mrs May recording everyones Internet traffic I don't think it'll be long before people start getting into bother over it.
 
At the end of the day bear in mind what you are buying is illegal and unless you have the technical know how to hide via a VPN proxy where your kodi box ix is going.

Your ISP will be looging it all.
 
It is worth noting that KODI itself is not illegal, KODI is a free and open source media player application

It becomes illegal to sell/use when loaded/used with illegal stream repositories
 
Mr Bump said:
At the end of the day bear in mind what you are buying is illegal and unless you have the technical know how to hide via a VPN proxy where your kodi box ix is going.

Your ISP will be looging it all.
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Really?

Surely it makes more sense to cut off this illegal activity at source and go after the ones selling - which is why I'm surprised those selling are just doing it openly on E-bay !
 
I may be wrong but im sure i read somewhere that even VPNs arent fullproof anymore in that a VPN provider can be approached to release details of the genuine ISPs they are masquerading.

Ultimately why put yourself at risk for the sake of maybe watching something sooner than others or not paying for that favourite album you wanted etc.

Ultimately though if you want one bad enough there will be otherways to source the hardware outwith the likes of ebay.
 
From a google search:

If you were to download an illegally copied file, that would constitute copyright infringement. However, when you stream something online, the file is stored only temporarily on your computer - and temporary copies are exempt from copyright laws.

In a landmark ruling in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren't breaking the law by doing so, citing Article 5.1 of the EU Copyright Directive.

It stated that copies of copyrighted material that appear "on the users computer screen" and "in the internet 'cache' of that computer's hard disk" are "temporary" and "may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders".
 
Wasn't that repealed fairly soon after, making backup copying if DVDs etc. technically illegal again?
 
Another thing to take into account is what software is being used to access the content. Some use P2P where boxes that have part of the media cached for the user are also helping to upload that content for others to watch. Reduces load on central servers and makes content more available, but by doing this you are now distributing copyrighted material.
 
It is a very fine line with these Kodi boxes and other mainly Android boxes and software.
personally i bought an amazon fire box about a year ago and a friend put all the kodi stuff on for me to try it while i was living in scotland.
i found it pretty grim and given also the risk i decided to discontinue it.
it is in my cupboard as we speak which reminds e to erase it and sell it on.
 
kennysarmy said:
Really?

Surely it makes more sense to cut off this illegal activity at source and go after the ones selling - which is why I'm surprised those selling are just doing it openly on E-bay !
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ISPs do cut off these feeds when they are notified by the courts but new ones pop up withing minutes often from the same source just a different ip and dns name.
it is realy a lost cause from the ISPs angle as the internet is so dynamic.
 
stupar said:
I may be wrong but im sure i read somewhere that even VPNs arent fullproof anymore in that a VPN provider can be approached to release details of the genuine ISPs they are masquerading.
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IP owner / rights holder can apply to the courts for a Norwich Pharmacal order to require an innocent third party to release information that is relevant to a crime or tort. This could be a VPN provider or an ISP in this situation.
 
neil_g said:
Anyway it's irrelevant if the Gov break encryption. Thanks Tories.
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The government can't break encryption, the genie is out of the bottle on public key encryption and it's all open source. There is nothing in the recent legislation that outlaws the use of unbreakable encryption by individuals.

The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (passed by the Blair government) requires encryption keys to be surrendered on request under the threat of a two year jail sentence.
 
onomatopoeia said:
The government can't break encryption, the genie is out of the bottle on public key encryption and it's all open source. There is nothing in the recent legislation that outlaws the use of unbreakable encryption by individuals.

The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (passed by the Blair government) requires encryption keys to be surrendered on request under the threat of a two year jail sentence.
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They can if they start demanding tech companies make back doors into their encryption methods. I.e. WhatsApp.

I suspect the act you mention applies to end users manually applying encryption and not corporations and their apps/sites etc.
 
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