Lines on scanned negative frames

[VirtualAdept]

Ello chaps and chapettes... I'm having a little issue with my epson v330, in that on some photos its producing a line across the image.


241112004 by Mads.S, on Flickr

Its not terribly obvious on this one, its about a 6th of the way down the picture, right the way across. It seems to be mostly shots that are darkish, for example that one was shot in shade, but another pointing at the treeline shows the same thing.
I'm just wondering if anyone has any idea why/what this might be.
Many thanks
Mads

 

[donut]

does it do it on all scans ? if not ,can you see anything on the neg ?


just re read ,,and it only does it on some ,,,,do the negs that it shows up on have anything on them ,,,and if you rescan does it keep coming out the same ?

 

[Kev M]

I get that occasionally on my Epson 4490. No idea what causes it I'm afraid. Some have suggested it is dust on the sensor/scanner head, others that it is a bit of dust in the calibration holes on the film holder.

Some times restarting the scanner and rescanning the frame can help it.

 

[freecom2]

There's a calibration area in the top part of the scanner with most of the Epson V series (and previous models), and dust there can sometimes cause these lines. Clean that area (it's not an area that has any film scanned on it anyway) and the line should go away

 

[VirtualAdept]

does it do it on all scans ? if not ,can you see anything on the neg ?


just re read ,,and it only does it on some ,,,,do the negs that it shows up on have anything on them ,,,and if you rescan does it keep coming out the same ?

Nope, the negs in question are clean, no marks on them that'd lead to this banding

I get that occasionally on my Epson 4490. No idea what causes it I'm afraid. Some have suggested it is dust on the sensor/scanner head, others that it is a bit of dust in the calibration holes on the film holder.

Some times restarting the scanner and rescanning the frame can help it.

Sadly rescanning the frame just gives me multiple copies of photos with the same issue

There's a calibration area in the top part of the scanner with most of the Epson V series (and previous models), and dust there can sometimes cause these lines. Clean that area (it's not an area that has any film scanned on it anyway) and the line should go away

After this and Kevs replies, I looked into the whole calibration area (had no idea where it was) and it seems to be a fairly common problem... now I just need to get the damn thing properly clean. Any suggestions on what to use?
Glass cleaner? Lens cloth? Hammer?

 

[VirtualAdept]

Scratch it all... I've just had a very close up look at the negs with a very bright light (I'm blind now...) and there's a teeny tiny almost imperceptible line across the negs, almost like its been scratched, but without actually being scratched. Something on the felt on the cannister when rewinding perhaps?

Anyway, my humble apologies for being too blind to see it before now.

 

[freecom2]

Scratch it all... I've just had a very close up look at the negs with a very bright light (I'm blind now...) and there's a teeny tiny almost imperceptible line across the negs, almost like its been scratched, but without actually being scratched. Something on the felt on the cannister when rewinding perhaps?

Anyway, my humble apologies for being too blind to see it before now.

It's okay, 35mm negatives are very difficult to judge accurately sometimes - one of many reasons why I prefer working with medium format. It could've been in the shooting process, in the developing process, anything in-between; do you develop at home?

Is it a line consistent in the same position along a whole line of negatives?

 

[donut]

have you tried to clean the line off of the neg ? if it was a scratch i would have thought the line would appear black ,

 

[VirtualAdept]

It's okay, 35mm negatives are very difficult to judge accurately sometimes - one of many reasons why I prefer working with medium format. It could've been in the shooting process, in the developing process, anything in-between; do you develop at home?

Is it a line consistent in the same position along a whole line of negatives?

That's he weirdest part, it's in the same place across a few frames, but in a strip of 6 frames, only 4 have the line, while the ones that don't are between the frames that do... Say frames 1&2 do, 3 doesn't, 4 does, 5&6 don't, see?
I've wondered if it's the camera, but I would imagine that'd be a more discernible pattern.
I do develop at home, yes.

have you tried to clean the line off of the neg ? if it was a scratch i would have thought the line would appear black ,

Not yet, my son turned into the incredible sulk shortly after posting, so I've nt had chance. I must admit the frames look a little dense, but I'll post up a picture of them in the morning.

 

[freecom2]

If it is a dirt/debris related scratch, then the places to check/clean are:

The whole back of the camera, anywhere the film comes into contact or near
Developing reels
Negative sheets

It'll be almost impossible to find specifically where the scratch was from (35mm negatives are just too small, imagine how small the piece of debris must be), so you just have to make best efforts to minimise the potential risk of scratching.

 

[VirtualAdept]

If it is a dirt/debris related scratch, then the places to check/clean are:

The whole back of the camera, anywhere the film comes into contact or near
Developing reels
Negative sheets

It'll be almost impossible to find specifically where the scratch was from (35mm negatives are just too small, imagine how small the piece of debris must be), so you just have to make best efforts to minimise the potential risk of scratching.

I'm betting the camera... As best as I can remember, I've had theses issues on another film that came out of this body... Have to look into that.
On the plus side, it's comforting to know the scanners not going boobies up

 

[freecom2]

I'm betting the camera... As best as I can remember, I've had theses issues on another film that came out of this body... Have to look into that.

You'll be surprised how much crud ends up getting stuck to various parts of the film mechanism - I believe Kodak used to recommend a decent clean of the internals every time a new roll was inserted into a camera.