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I am shooting in RAW and after processing in LR3 I export all my images into files on my desktop....it only gives me an option to convert them in to TIFF or JPEG......

Can you somehow keep them in RAW? is it best to convert them in to TIFF or JPEG to save memory? or which is best...TIFF or JPEG?

Hope this makes sense and thanks for your advice in advance :)
 
Why are you exporting them? If you are processing them in Lightroom, then they are already there as raw files, you needn't do anything more with them.


I like to have them organised in files on my desktop..can you do that within LR then? I just don't want one great big line of pics along the bottom once processed
 
Assuming your desktop is your C:/ drive if your sytem goes tits up then your run the risk of losing the lot. You would be better keeping them on a separate physical drive or at the very least a different partiton from C:/.

You can set lightroom to export them to wherever you want.You can export them as DNG, pretty much the same as raw but without the sidecar file. Typing dng vs raw will give you plenty of opinions, you make your own mind up.
 
You export as jpeg or tiff - depending on how you are using the files. You should ALWAYS keep the RAW files as well - these are your digital negatives - all the editing is non-destructive - so you can go back and re-edit at any time. All the files are organised when you import them into LR - it always knows where they are - so long as you do all the moving from within Lightroom. F1 for lots more help.
 
All my files are on an external hard drive. They are stored in folders by date and subject. These folders are visible in Lightroom and that is how I access them to process them (They are imported from the memory card via Lightroom direct into the aforementioned folders).

If I wish to process them in PS then I export them as tiffs, a copy of which stays in LR. Once the tiffs are processed, they are saved and the LR version updates accordingly.

If I wish to use any images, be it for web, sending to a pro lab for printing or putting to CD/DVD for a client, they are then exported as jpegs.
 
So you don't want a 'great big line of pics' along the bottom of Lightroom , but you want a plethora of folders all over your desktop with exported images in them? :thinking:

The great big line of pics along the bottom (that you can easily hide) are your RAW images, or at least a representation of them, so you should never delete them.

TBH, you need to go do some reading about what LR actually is/does, as I don't think you understand it at the moment....
 
So you don't want a 'great big line of pics' along the bottom of Lightroom , but you want a plethora of folders all over your desktop with exported images in them? :thinking:

The great big line of pics along the bottom (that you can easily hide) are your RAW images, or at least a representation of them, so you should never delete them.

TBH, you need to go do some reading about what LR actually is/does, as I don't think you understand it at the moment....


Couldnt agree more.....hence why I'm putting threads up to help point me in the right direction

thanks all for the advice :)
 
Definitely worth a Google for a "what is lightroom and how does it work" tutorial - or the "introduction" part of the help file will probably do. Make sure you properly understand it before you do anything irreversible!

But basically... Lightroom (and Apple's Aperture, which is essentially the same) is a non-destructive workflow tool. It will *never* change the files you give to it, whether RAW, JPEG, TIFF or anything else. It is essentially just a database which knows where all of your original images are stored, and also remembers every change you've ever made to it, and re-applies those on-the-fly (actually it stores a pre-processed preview too to make it a bit faster) every time you use that image within Lightroom. That is important - because that means that your RAW files, in whatever directory structure you have them in, are still as they came out of the camera - the RAW file containd none of the changes you made. You also can't export RAW in any meaningful way, because a RAW file isn't (by definition) RAW anymore if it includes the edits, and the edits are only meaningful to a specific piece of software - there is no standard format for the metadata which describes the changes you made.

Disregarding the actual location of the images on your hard drive for a moment, you can still do the organisation within Lightroom so that you don't just have the one long line of images you described. That is actually one of the most powerful features of Lightroom and similar software, the ability to organise and categorise your images in many different ways, totally independent if where the files are stored on your computer. For example, my photos are imported into folders (I use Aperture now, but used to use Lightroom) named according to the date and the "event" or holiday or whatever reason I was taking photos. That folder will contain all of the RAW images, and will never change. I then have smart albums which then contain (for example) only the 3* rated photos from each folder, and then have separate smart folders for photos with certain keywords, like "panoramic", "macro", "water", etc. And the photo can exist in as many different places as you want, but the actual RAW file is never copied - just referenced.

The usual way to use Lightroom etc is to only export images when you need them - and then usually export to jpeg or tiff or whatever for what you're doing. The RAW file stays within Lightroom and never changes.

Hope that helps as a bit of an introduction - and apologies if i've told you stuff you already know. But hopefully it helps clear it up for anyone else reading that was confused too. But worth thinking about how you want to use it, and work out a system before you get too settled into one way of doing things... I've changed my mind a few times over the past few years (including changing software, which is a huge job for this type of software!), and so have wasted many many days re-categorising things according to what system i preferred at the time. But the most recent change (around a year ago) i put more thought into and actually like it now, but still slowly going back through my old photos tagging them and doing some edits (using techniques i'd never heard of when i took them).

Hope you get it sorted,

David
 
Here's how I do mine so can keep track of who wants what at work:

Set up a folder on external HD called 'pictures go here'

Set up any sub- folders within. I have a WORK one and a PERSONAL one; work is split into more sub-folders that correspond to each magazine I shoot for. Each magazine sub-folder then just has a folder created within (e.g. River Trent Barbel) that images are dragged to off my CF card.

Like this:



Drag images off card and into named folder.

Start LR and import the magazine folder. This means it automatically updates and adds any new folders created within. In the sidebar on the left I now have a magazine folder name that can be expanded to a drop-down menu that reveals all the sub-folders with.

Every time you now want to add and update all I have to do is click on WORK, click import, choose the WORK folder to import and it updates the whole shebang rather than having to do each sub-sub-folder individually. It will ignore previously imported images (so nothing is overwritten) and just import new stuff.

When I click on each job folder now I just have images displayed from that job and not my entire image library. Like this:



Excuse the fact the images are offline - didn't have my HD plugged in :)

Like said, you really need to get to grips with what LR is designed to do; it's more than a tweaking program - it's equally dedicated to archiving, sorting and publishing your work, whether that be for print or online

There's a good website, something like 'thelightroomlab' that gives loads of good tips in YouTube videos :)
 
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This information could be partly linked to the slight issue with speed I am having at the moment. Will take a butchers at that website specialman. Thanks. By the way that above shot is great.
 
Awesome advice!!

many thanks this has got me going in the right direction now......(I hope)
 
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