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I almost always use Photoshop but today decided to give Lightroom another try ... I've never really tried to make it work!
In Photoshop, when I work on an image I Save each individual image to my desired location as a jpeg, tiff or what have you file.

In Lightroom I have used Copy and Import to load a set of images, then I used Develop to work through them, via the thumbnails at the bottom of the screen, processing the images as required.
My questions is ... What now??.

Has Lightroom automatically saved my images as I have processed them?
Can I find them and post all or some as required to Flickr, TP etc ... or is there another stage from Develop that I need to carry out in order to use my Lightroom processed images?
 
You need to highlight the images you require then right click the mouse and choose export images from the options. You can change the file type size etc from this export utility.
 
Has Lightroom automatically saved my images as I have processed them?



Roger, as no RAW file may be edited / altered,
LR will create ".xmp" files aka side kicks and save
/ store them. These files contain / reflect all the edits
you made from a RAW file.

To use given images, you will have to publish them:
You need to highlight the images you require then right click the mouse and choose export images from the options. You can change the file type size etc from this export utility.
 
Lightroom doesn't actually edit the image, it just applied adjustments to the image with those adjustments stored inside the lightroom catalog. There is no need to save the raw file once you have finished editing.

If you require a jpg or tif version then you will need to export the image or images (in a batch). You can also edit an image in Photoshop or other 3rd party plugin and this will create a tif or PSD and send it to the other application for editing. When you save the image in that application the image is returned to lightroom in either a tif or psd format. You will then see two version of your image. A raw and the tif/psd.
 
There is no need to save the raw file once you have finished editing.



To an old school guy like me it sounds like:
There is no need to archive the negative once you have a print!

I certainly do not endorse this!
 



To an old school guy like me it sounds like:
There is no need to archive the negative once you have a print!

I certainly do not endorse this!

But that wasn't the question being asked. He asked if he needed to save the image (click File->Save). My answer was correct.
 
Thanks for the help guys, how to I select a batch to export e.g. I want to export all the images on the bottom thumbnail?
 
You can select images the usual way.

CTRL/CMD-A (select all)
CTRL-CMD Click (select individual images)
SHIFT Click (select image from a point, to a point)
Once you've selected your images go to File Export.

You can also take a look at Publish Folders. This is very handy for exporting your best images.
For example I have a publish folder setup which includes smart folders. The Smart Folders are setup in a way to include all of my 3 star and above images and the publish folder is setup to export at a certain size, quality and to a certain location. Now I just have to go to that published folder in lightroom and click publish. If I make any changes, I just click republish.
 
You can select images the usual way.

CTRL/CMD-A (select all)
CTRL-CMD Click (select individual images)
SHIFT Click (select image from a point, to a point)
Once you've selected your images go to File Export.

You can also take a look at Publish Folders. This is very handy for exporting your best images.
For example I have a publish folder setup which includes smart folders. The Smart Folders are setup in a way to include all of my 3 star and above images and the publish folder is setup to export at a certain size, quality and to a certain location. Now I just have to go to that published folder in lightroom and click publish. If I make any changes, I just click republish.

Brilliant, thank you :)
 
There is no need to save the raw file once you have finished editing.
He asked if he needed to save the image (click File->Save)

I would m´not express things this way to a student and,
maybe due to a lack of understanding the finesses of
english, it is still unclear but, as long as Roger gets it in
your shared language, it's all fine!
 
I would m´not express things this way to a student and,
maybe due to a lack of understanding the finesses of
english, it is still unclear but, as long as Roger gets it in
your shared language, it's all fine!

I always save my original RAWs Daniel ... no issues :)
 
Thanks for the help guys, how to I select a batch to export e.g. I want to export all the images on the bottom thumbnail?

I find it easiest to go back to Library mode and use the grid view (bottom left) to show thumbnails, select what I want to export (Ctrl+Click or Shift+Click) and then File->Export

The thing I use quite a lot is P for pick and X for reject, so I go through them flag as Pick or Reject, or leave alone if unsure, I then "Develop" the picks and if I am happy use Photo->Delete Rejected Photos to get rid of the rejected (U - unflag clears Pick/Reject if you change your mind). Now, back in Library mode I use the filter, bottom right to filter for Flagged - which shows the Picks and then select all those (Library Grid view) and export them. I now sometimes have a few that were neither Picked or Rejected and by this time I have usually got over my sentimental attachment to them and just delete them.
 
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I don't tend to export anything. I publish and upload directly from lightroom, I can't stand having duplicates on my systems. I use lightroom (and Aperture before that) as my source folder, with all the meta data benefits. No need to go into explorer.
 
I work a wee bit differently.

I select all the photos I want to work with in Lightroom then right click and create virtual images.

I then move to the develop module, do all the work, then when I export, all the virtual images I worked on are already selected.
 
Hi Gramps,
Well i went through this same evolution some while ago, I dabbled around in Lightroom (Blindly) didn't really get it, so stuck with PS that i'd used for ages. Then decided to make a concerted effort to use it properly.
After my pathetic attempts on my first runs at lightroom i decided to read up on it and do the job properly which was very revealing!
The workflow is quite different IMHO. Personally i think the first thing you have to do is have a firm idea of a file structure you want to use. Exactly how you want to catalog your photos and stick with it, Lightroom works with a Catalogue which is your top file structure. it creates a default structure when you install it and you can name it something more meaningful than the default. So under the catalogue name sits your file structure of folders that in library and other modes appear on the left of the screen like an explorer folder tree.
The only reason i put all this up front is, if you start using it, and don't have a clear idea of how you want to import your files into your lightroom catalogue (AKA File Structure) you can get in a hell of a mess (How do you think i found that out:eek:). You can designate and create your file structure as you import your files.

Obviously there is a lot to Lightroom as with any other program. Things to note are....

It's non destructive as brushed on above, none of the edits are applied to your image until you export (There is NO save menu, as in save as this or that). The XMP or sidecar files holds all the layers of edits (That history list appears on the LH side in the develop module as you edit a shot). So as you edit away you'll see the history of edits increase (on the Left) but if you click right down the bottom on "Import" you will go right back to square one when you originally imported the shot to LR and you can jump around in this history to different points in your editing. The XMP file is only created when you start to edit a photo.

Exporting is managed in a few ways there is an Export manager that you can set up presets in. Here you can designate how, where, and every which way your export your files, you can even use third part plug-ins here as well. Alternatively you can use publishing services, which you can set up to publish directly to Flickr and all the other usual places. Here again you can also designate exactly how you wish to export to a service.... this will also let you update images already posted online too (Republish).

When you right click on an image after you have finished editing you will pull up a dialog box giving you export options amongst other things here, you will see an "Edit in" menu, so you will see something like Edit in Photoshop for example where it with drop the file into Photoshop for further editing (There is a set up for this in the export manager to say how you want it to export it to Photoshop ie as a Tiff etc etc).

Just another note .... on import you can set the import manager to back up the files onto an external drive or to another area in import. Mine always come into an external RAID drive on import.

Obviously there is far more to it than this but its worth reading up before you get heavily committed.
Hopefully i haven't spoken too much cobblers and it makes sense!
 
Hi Gramps,
Well i went through this same evolution some while ago, I dabbled around in Lightroom (Blindly) didn't really get it, so stuck with PS that i'd used for ages. Then decided to make a concerted effort to use it properly.
After my pathetic attempts on my first runs at lightroom i decided to read up on it and do the job properly which was very revealing!
The workflow is quite different IMHO. Personally i think the first thing you have to do is have a firm idea of a file structure you want to use. Exactly how you want to catalog your photos and stick with it, Lightroom works with a Catalogue which is your top file structure. it creates a default structure when you install it and you can name it something more meaningful than the default. So under the catalogue name sits your file structure of folders that in library and other modes appear on the left of the screen like an explorer folder tree.
The only reason i put all this up front is, if you start using it, and don't have a clear idea of how you want to import your files into your lightroom catalogue (AKA File Structure) you can get in a hell of a mess (How do you think i found that out:eek:). You can designate and create your file structure as you import your files.

Obviously there is a lot to Lightroom as with any other program. Things to note are....

It's non destructive as brushed on above, none of the edits are applied to your image until you export (There is NO save menu, as in save as this or that). The XMP or sidecar files holds all the layers of edits (That history list appears on the LH side in the develop module as you edit a shot). So as you edit away you'll see the history of edits increase (on the Left) but if you click right down the bottom on "Import" you will go right back to square one when you originally imported the shot to LR and you can jump around in this history to different points in your editing. The XMP file is only created when you start to edit a photo.

Exporting is managed in a few ways there is an Export manager that you can set up presets in. Here you can designate how, where, and every which way your export your files, you can even use third part plug-ins here as well. Alternatively you can use publishing services, which you can set up to publish directly to Flickr and all the other usual places. Here again you can also designate exactly how you wish to export to a service.... this will also let you update images already posted online too (Republish).

When you right click on an image after you have finished editing you will pull up a dialog box giving you export options amongst other things here, you will see an "Edit in" menu, so you will see something like Edit in Photoshop for example where it with drop the file into Photoshop for further editing (There is a set up for this in the export manager to say how you want it to export it to Photoshop ie as a Tiff etc etc).

Just another note .... on import you can set the import manager to back up the files onto an external drive or to another area in import. Mine always come into an external RAID drive on import.

Obviously there is far more to it than this but its worth reading up before you get heavily committed.
Hopefully i haven't spoken too much cobblers and it makes sense!

Cheers Steve, comments appreciated :)
 
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