LIGHTROOM HELP

Pretty sure LR doesn't recognize in camera settings for the RAW file on import.
 
I believe that if you shot in RAW and JPEG then the RAW will show as colour and the JPEG as Black & White. If you only shot RAW then you have to do the B&W processing in LR.
 
tijuana taxi said:
Pretty sure LR doesn't recognize in camera settings for the RAW file on import.
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I always shoot in Raw and they go straight in to LR, but today I changed the camera to B&W but they load as colour, very strange really so may as well shoot colour then change to B&W :eek:
 
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Ploddles said:
I believe that if you shot in RAW and JPEG then the RAW will show as colour and the JPEG as Black & White. If you only shot RAW then you have to do the B&W processing in LR.
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Thanks for that, strange though I think, so LR does not like Raw B&W then.
 
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Dave70D said:
Thanks for that, strange though I think, so LR does not like Raw B%W then.
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No. LR shows RAW files in a RAW state.
If you tell your camera to process your images to JPEG format then LR shows the processed files.
RAW means just that. ...images as shot with no tweaking applied.
Only you can decide. Do you want the camera to process your images or do you want to do it yourself?
 
Dave70D said:
Think I will do them in PS then.
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It's no different if you use PS or anything else. If you shoot RAW you get RAW and have to process them yourself.
If you want in camera mono to be the end result you have to shoot JPEG.
 
Nothing is wrong you'll, be pleased to know. :)

I assume you are shooting in RAW. If you are, the camera records all the data from the sensor, which is colour data. You set the B&W Picture Style in camera, and that is what is showed on the screen on the back LCD, applied to the RAW file. If you opened the RAW file with the Canon software, it would apply the B&W Picture Style, to appear B&W. Lightroom is not able to recognise that the B&W Picture Style, (indeed any Picture Style) has/should be applied, and so shows all the colour data. The downside is that you will have to go through and apply B&W settings to all the images you want to be B&W. The upside is you have much more control by making the images B&W in camera.
 
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mickledore said:
If you want in camera mono to be the end result you have to shoot JPEG.
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Or open them up with the Canon software, which will open them with the Mono Picture Style applied, but allow further editing of the RAW data. You would also have the option to turn the Mono Picture Style off, or to one of the Colour Picture Styles, Portrait, Landscape etc if you wanted. :)
 
mickledore said:
It's no different if you use PS or anything else. If you shoot RAW you get RAW and have to process them yourself.
If you want in camera mono to be the end result you have to shoot JPEG.
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Just found that out now, thanks :)

redhed17 said:
Nothing is wrong you'll; be pleased to know. :)

I assume you are shooting in RAW. If you are, the camera records all the data from the sensor, which is colour data. You set the B&W Picture Style in camera, and that is what is showed on the screen on the back LCD, applied to the RAW file. If you opened the RAW file with the Canon software, it would apply the B&W Picture Style, to appear B&W. Lightroom is not able to recognise that the B&W Picture Style, (indeed any Picture Style) has/should be applied, and so shows all the colour data. The downside is that you will have to go through and apply B&W settings to all the images you want to be B&W. The upside is you have much more control by making the images B&W in camera.
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Thanks, I thought I`d screwed up as was happily taking all my shots today in Raw and B&W, so when I looked on the 70D screen, I thought OH nice so just tweak them a bit :)
 
Dave70D said:
Thanks, I thought I`d screwed up as was happily taking all my shots today in Raw and B&W, so when I looked on the 70D screen, I thought OH nice so just tweak them a bit :)
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There is still a benefit to setting the Picture Style to Mono, even if it does open as a colour image in LR or PS, in that you get an idea of how the scene may look in B&W whilst you are taking the pics. Like I said earlier though, you have so much control and options making the image B&W later that it is not a negative imho. :)
 
redhed17 said:
There is still a benefit to setting the Picture Style to Mono, even if it does open as a colour image in LR or PS, in that you get an idea of how the scene may look in B&W whilst you are taking the pics. Like I said earlier though, you have so much control and options making the image B&W later that it is not a negative imho. :)
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Especially with the free Silver Effex plug in. Much more control over the outcome of your mono shots. Yes, it's a little bit more work, but the results are worth it.
 
In some cases (i.e. it works for me) you can open your raw file and go into the Develop module. The last group on the right is "Camera Calibration". Open that and click on "Profile" and you may find the specific camera shooting settings in there. All my Fuji cameras have the option to add the in-camera film styles in post.
 
Ian, where are the film styles? I've looked and can't find them. I may be a bit thick (sshhhhhh) or is it a feature of LR6/Cloud? I'm only on LR5.
 
Harlequin565 said:
In some cases (i.e. it works for me) you can open your raw file and go into the Develop module. The last group on the right is "Camera Calibration". Open that and click on "Profile" and you may find the specific camera shooting settings in there. All my Fuji cameras have the option to add the in-camera film styles in post.
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Not on my LR6
Dave70D said:
Thanks, I thought I`d screwed up as was happily taking all my shots today in Raw and B&W, so when I looked on the 70D screen, I thought OH nice so just tweak them a bit :)
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It only affects the jpeg, hence showing B&W on the display as that uses a small jpeg embeded. Now if you have a camera with two slots, (say 5D mk3) set one to raw, one to jpeg, you would have a B&W on one card for import.


Add these in - https://www.google.com/nikcollection/
You can right click, edit in, for various processing, for free.
 
mickledore said:
is it a feature of LR6/Cloud?
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Must be a CC feature as that's what I have... Don't have other versions to test, but it looks like it's not on 6 either.

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Not a lot wrong with those conversions.
Just for your own purposes take a shot in RAW and then take the identical shot in JPEG with the mono setting. Convert the RAW and see how the two differ, and which you prefer.
 
mickledore said:
Not a lot wrong with those conversions.
Just for your own purposes take a shot in RAW and then take the identical shot in JPEG with the mono setting. Convert the RAW and see how the two differ, and which you prefer.
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Good idea and Thank you for the advice along with the others too (y)
 
Harlequin565 said:
Must be a CC feature as that's what I have... Don't have other versions to test, but it looks like it's not on 6 either.

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It has been there since at least LR5, and maybe even LR 4 from memory - Camera Standard, Camera Faithful, Camera Neutral, Camera Landscape, Camera Portrait for Canon cameras. Have never had a Nikon so don't know what shows up for them.
 
mickledore said:
Not a lot wrong with those conversions.
Just for your own purposes take a shot in RAW and then take the identical shot in JPEG with the mono setting. Convert the RAW and see how the two differ, and which you prefer.
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Or just set the camera to save raw and jpeg at the same time, that way the settings are definitely identical.
 
Ploddles said:
It has been there since at least LR5, and maybe even LR 4 from memory - Camera Standard, Camera Faithful, Camera Neutral, Camera Landscape, Camera Portrait for Canon cameras. Have never had a Nikon so don't know what shows up for them.
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Well what am I doing wrong? It doesn't show on mine!

I'm on an X-T2 and those files are not recognised by LR5 so I have to convert to DNG. Wouldn't have thought that would cause problems????
 
mickledore said:
Well what am I doing wrong? It doesn't show on mine!

I'm on an X-T2 and those files are not recognised by LR5 so I have to convert to DNG. Wouldn't have thought that would cause problems????
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It is built into LR for Canon, don't think anything for Fuji.
 
Ploddles said:
It is built into LR for Canon, don't think anything for Fuji.
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Thanks. I seem to remember that I could do this with the X-T1 but the T2 is a different beast and I suspect LR5 won't be getting any more updates. All part of Adobe's master plan to put us on subscription.
 
mickledore said:
Well what am I doing wrong? It doesn't show on mine!
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Just dug back through to some old Canon dngs and they allow Canon styles so it's probably related to the fact that LR5 doesn't support the X-T2 (film emulations) and you are in fact correct that Adobe are trying to get you to open your wallet.
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Ploddles said:
It has been there since at least LR5, and maybe even LR 4 from memory - Camera Standard, Camera Faithful, Camera Neutral, Camera Landscape, Camera Portrait for Canon cameras. Have never had a Nikon so don't know what shows up for them.
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yup, that's what I have along with Adobe Standard
 
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