Lightroom - copying develop settings and retrieving original image

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Two questions about Lightroom that I am failing to find an answer for via Google.

1) I have processed an image. Now I want to export the unprocessed image. Is this possible whilst also keeping the processed version?

2) When I copy develop settings from one image to another, I would like the exact settings to be visible in the history panel rather than Paste Settings. Is this possible?

Thanks in advance for any input to these questions.

Stephen
 
1? Simply make a "Virtual Copy" , select this and press Reset. This will reset the develop module setting to default, yet keep the "original" intact

2/ Don't think if this is possible, as all the history states will be the action which is copy settings.
 
Virtual Copy allows multiple versions of the same raw file so as Chappers says just right click and create a virtual cop and you'll see the image appear as imagename-Copy-1 or something like that. You can then edit that in any way you see fity without affecting the first edit.

Regards the history I don't think that is possible but you could (if there's not too many changes), just edit the second image in the same steps as the first.
 
Didnt realise that was possible with a virtual copy - I thought it copied the image as it is, and that that was then the base image. Didnt realise you could then reset the virtual copy back to the original image.

Didnt think it was possible to copy the actual settings - just wanted to be sure I wasnt missing something.

Thanks

Stephen
 
Q 1. Ctrl +E and this gives you three options including if I remember correctly export copy without Lightroom edits, with LR edits and Original, choose copy without LR edits then when you have finished use "save as" and the freshly edited copy will usually appear in LR

Q 2. No idea - probably not as they work differently in Library and Develop views anyway (one treats the unchanged images and the other adds the changes to any others you have made)
 
redfan said:
Didnt realise that was possible with a virtual copy - I thought it copied the image as it is, and that that was then the base image. Didnt realise you could then reset the virtual copy back to the original image.

Didnt think it was possible to copy the actual settings - just wanted to be sure I wasnt missing something.

Thanks

Stephen
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The raw image NEVER changes. When you "edit" an image all you are doing is writing some data to the XMP file. When you create a virtual copy all that is written is a new XMP file attached to the Original RAW. It will start at the base image where you created the virtual copy but as RAW editiung is non destructive you can re-edit in a totally different way or reset to scratch or whatever. All that is created in a second or third etc XMP file.

When you export Lr will create a jpg/tif from that xmp file.

:)
 
Kerioak said:
Q 1. Ctrl +E and this gives you three options including if I remember correctly export copy without Lightroom edits, with LR edits and Original, choose copy without LR edits then when you have finished use "save as" and the freshly edited copy will usually appear in LR
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That would work too allowing you to export the image as unprocessed. If he need to re-edit that image however he would be better to use the virtual copy and edit the raw data to then create a new image.
 
You can't copy the develop setting AFAIK but you could make a preset that will keep the settting so you could simply apply it to another image and note the setting anytime you need
 
swanseamale47 said:
You can't copy the develop setting AFAIK but you could make a preset that will keep the settting so you could simply apply it to another image and note the setting anytime you need
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Why didn't I think of that! Brilliant answer :) Select images and click to sync across your images and job done.
 
swanseamale47 said:
You can't copy the develop setting AFAIK but you could make a preset that will keep the settting so you could simply apply it to another image and note the setting anytime you need
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So will that show the full steps in the History panel? I thought it was just that a preset had been applied.

EOS_JD said:
Why didn't I think of that! Brilliant answer :) Select images and click to sync across your images and job done.
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I didn't think the history panel showed details of the steps after a synch? I thought it just showed 'Settings Pasted' or something like that.
 
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