Lightroom 6

Anyone else annoyed by the removal of a useable fullscreen view? Can't understand what the deal is there.

There used to be three 'views' you could cycle through (by pressing "F"). Now there are two; one with title bars, and distractions intruding from your OS, and a second pointless fullscreen that doesn't let you do anything besides look at a photo.

Thoroughly pointless change to something that didn't need changing, unless I'm missing something.
 
Jayst84 said:
Anyone else annoyed by the removal of a useable fullscreen view? Can't understand what the deal is there.

There used to be three 'views' you could cycle through (by pressing "F"). Now there are two; one with title bars, and distractions intruding from your OS, and a second pointless fullscreen that doesn't let you do anything besides look at a photo.

Thoroughly pointless change to something that didn't need changing, unless I'm missing something.
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Are you sure? The behaviour appears to be the same to me between 5.7 and 6. You're not getting confused with the 'L' lights out feature are you?

*PC user here, might be different on the Mac
 
Sharky said:
Are you sure? The behaviour appears to be the same to me between 5.7 and 6. You're not getting confused with the 'L' lights out feature are you?

*PC user here, might be different on the Mac
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No, hitting F as always. Doesn't appear to be any menu option for it now (not sure there ever was, as I always just hit F).

On a Mac.
 
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minnnt said:
I had a dialog box pop up saying new update available so when i click it, it just redirects me to the adobe site saying page not found. Is this to just to get me to sign up for CC? I have the stand alone version of 5.7.

Don't hate me if it's already been discussed, just too lazy to look. :LOL:
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Yes, it's a conspiracy to get you to sign up.
 
Broric said:
It looks like I'm going to need to take the plunge soon...

Could someone explain how the workflow works for LR CC?

I currently have a iMac and a macbook.

My main catalog is stored on my iMac with the photos on a NAS/server.
I tend to do most of my editing on my macbook (working on local copies of the photos) and then copy them to the NAS when done and export the catalog back to my iMac into my master catalog.

For CC I see lots of talk of "automatically syncing" stuff and wondered what this means? Does your full catalog end up "in the cloud"? Is it just smart previews that are synced between computers?
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It works exactly the same as a stand alone version. You files are not kept in the cloud, unless you choose to sync them to mobile.
 
ecoleman said:
It works exactly the same as a stand alone version. You files are not kept in the cloud, unless you choose to sync them to mobile.
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Thanks, I know there was an option to carry on as I have been but I wondered what does the syncing stuff actually do and can it help my workflow.

I was hoping some of the syncing stuff might keep my catalog synced between my imac and macbook without the need to import/export the catalog, etc? Does it or does it only sync computer to mobile?
 
Broric said:
Thanks, I know there was an option to carry on as I have been but I wondered what does the syncing stuff actually do and can it help my workflow.

I was hoping some of the syncing stuff might keep my catalog synced between my imac and macbook without the need to import/export the catalog, etc? Does it or does it only sync computer to mobile?
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only does it for mobile (and whatever the other cloud based bits and bobs are)

I just back my catalogue up to a shared drive so that I can open it form the PC later, saves having to import export each time
 
I cannot see any mention on the adobe site of a standalone "Lightroom 6" - or have I missed something?
 
mjScall said:
I just back my catalogue up to a shared drive so that I can open it form the PC later, saves having to import export each time
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I thought that was risky as the catalog database is prone to corruption? Or is that better nowadays?
 
Broric said:
I thought that was risky as the catalog database is prone to corruption? Or is that better nowadays?
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It doesn't really matter too much as you'll always have a copy locally on whichever device you were on, plus the shared one. Any corruption and you can just use the good copy.
I've never had any issues with the catalogues though, only thing I do have to do is build smart previews on both sides as the images are also on a share
 
it was more if weird things happened to the database that weren't immediately obvious. Always been cautious of that after hearing lots of people complain about it but sounds like it's not as much of an issue now.
 
I've installed LR6 and given it a whizz.
License gadget failed to find my installed LR5 instance so I had to find the serial number, but apart from that was quick and easy.

People is a great feature.
It only auto detects faces when they are facing the camera and don't have too much hair over their face, but drawing my own boxes was quick and easy.
I've tagged a couple of hundred images; a caving set where hardly any faces got detected (rarely looking straight at camera as their light blinds the camera) and coverage of an artistes preparation day for the 'step in stone' arts trails which worked much better.
I'll definitely be using this feature for all future photo shoots.

HDR - hmmm, not sold on this.
Tried it on my caving shots which are bracketed 5 stops.
The tone mapped result didn't look too much like classic HDR (which is good), but it significantly brightened the shadow detail from the brightest image which looked both ugly and killed the sense of depth in the cave; there will always be ridiculously deep shadows in a cave and I want them to stay dark. It would be better if it never tried to lighten beyond the brightest available image. I ended up with a load of rock texture with a caver stood in it - rubbish.
I turned off the tone mapping and ended up with an HDR image that looked the same as my middle exposure but allowed me to dodge and burn way harder than a single image - pretty cool! The problems I have with this is the flare around the caving light doesn't look as natural as a single exposure and using local adjustments was actually quite tricky to get good looking results. Caves tend to come in layers, and exposure blending in Photoshop using layer masks allows me to use a singe exposure for a rock face keeping all the subtle variations in lighting that gives depth cues; I couldn't replicate this by painting with the local adjustment brush in Lightroom.

In short - the HDR option is not suitable for my caving images.
I've no doubt the HDR option will work better on other types of images where detail is more important than lighting and that whether we like it or not we will soon get to recognise the flat look in the resulting images.
 
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Jayst84 said:
Excellent. Will teach me to use the help file. That works a treat.

Still, added an extra few keystrokes to my day, bloody Adobe. ;)
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I'm on a Mac and hitting F on my keyboard gives me a full screen version of the photo? I'm in the 'Develop' module.
 
I don't suppose anyone has done any testing on different specs of graphics card to see how much an improvement you get between say an entry level card at about £70-80, a mid range card at about £150 or a top end card at £300+ ?

If there's no appreciable difference between them, then I'll opt for a cheaper card when I buy one at the end of the month to replace my current 4 year old card.
 
lol, sorry - I didn't read the whole thread (skiving at work!!)
 
That was always a disappointment when I moved from Aperture to Lightroom the lack of a proper full screen mode where you could edit. I was hoping maybe they would rectify this in LR6 but it appears not.
 
Has anyone found out where the face database is stored? I'm wondering whether it's associated with the software or the catalogue. I'm hoping the former, as I import into a temporary catalogue for processing and then export from there into my archival catalogue. It's a bit long winded, but it's a workflow that does the trick for me. It would therefore be good if Lightroom shared the face metrics across catalogues
 
danny_bhoy said:
Anyone else having a problem opening Lightroom CC after installing?

Just installed it via CC and when I click on the desktop icon nothing happens. Found the install folder through windows explorer and tried clicking on the application file there to but nothing.

Knew I should have just stuck with 5!
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Sign out of CC then back in again. I think this is going to be the most searched for problem with this update...
 
I held off updating my CC yesterday as I assumed the servers would be swamped.

So tell me...do you think its worth signing out of CC and signing back in again before installing the update? ;)
 
Nikon_Nick said:
I held off updating my CC yesterday as I assumed the servers would be swamped.

So tell me...do you think its worth signing out of CC and signing back in again before installing the update? ;)
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It only takes a second. Once you know about it :)
 
Hmmm...

So when you upgrade a catalogue (which you're forced to do), LR6 goes and pinches all the previews from your LR5 catalogue, renaming the previews folder. So if you then go back to LR5 and open the same catalogue, it needs to rebuild another set of previews. If you've got large previews and a lot of photos this might cause problems.

Programs that try to be clever eh?
 
Harlequin565 said:
Hmmm...

So when you upgrade a catalogue (which you're forced to do), LR6 goes and pinches all the previews from your LR5 catalogue, renaming the previews folder. So if you then go back to LR5 and open the same catalogue, it needs to rebuild another set of previews. If you've got large previews and a lot of photos this might cause problems.

Programs that try to be clever eh?
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They probably assume that you wouldn't go back to LR5, and why would you?
 
ecoleman said:
They probably assume that you wouldn't go back to LR5, and why would you?
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I'd deleted LR5 before I even ran LRCC just to make sure there were no shared files etc so no going back for me :)
 
ecoleman said:
They probably assume that you wouldn't go back to LR5, and why would you?
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CC has left LR5 installed on my system. I thought it would replace it with the new version, but no. If 6 takes the catalogue and does all that Ian said, I'm glad I didn't go and open v5 again. That would have been a royal pain in the backside. Uninstalling 5 now.
 
Just a heads up on the GPU thing. Adobe recommend a minimum of 1Gb of VRAM or 2Gb for high res monitors such as 4k or 5k.

My iMac has 512Kb VRAM and I actually find LR faster with GPU acceleration turned off.

Just something to consider. Check your VRAM and test with GPU turned on and off.
I'm actually a bit annoyed now as I thought this upgrade was going to speed things up a bit.

Oh well only a year left until I upgrade to 5K iMac
 
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wishmaster said:
CC has left LR5 installed on my system. I thought it would replace it with the new version, but no. If 6 takes the catalogue and does all that Ian said, I'm glad I didn't go and open v5 again. That would have been a royal pain in the backside. Uninstalling 5 now.
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It did the same with Photoshop CC and Photoshop CC 2014.
Don't know why they do it
 
Harlequin565 said:
Hmmm...

So when you upgrade a catalogue (which you're forced to do), LR6 goes and pinches all the previews from your LR5 catalogue, renaming the previews folder. So if you then go back to LR5 and open the same catalogue, it needs to rebuild another set of previews. If you've got large previews and a lot of photos this might cause problems.

Programs that try to be clever eh?
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The thing that irks me is why didn't LR-CC rename the old catalogue file when it upgraded / copied it to the new format and call the old LR5 one something-2.lrcat rather then rename the new one instead. Seems backwards, now everyone has a newly named catalogue file!
 
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ecoleman said:
It did the same with Photoshop CC and Photoshop CC 2014.
Don't know why they do it
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I'd say it's down to the way the app is packaged, as it's a whole new app rather than an update, there is no uninstaller for the previous version (as it has no idea what version you may have, and it saves putting in an uninstaller for all previous LR versions)
 
ecoleman said:
It did the same with Photoshop CC and Photoshop CC 2014.
Don't know why they do it
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It's not as bad as it first appears. If you have an issue with the new software at least it's seamless to continue using the one if disaster does hit. Also things like lesser 3rd party plugins, scripts etc might break so having the abilities to just continue to work isn't a bad thing. If all is good after a period of time un-install the old job done.
 
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