Lightroom 4 before/after query

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Can anyone help with this please? After importing a raw picture into lightroom 4 and clicking on the develop module the photo apears as shot, if I click on the before/after YY tab the after view is already a lot lighter than the before view but as yet I haven't altered anything why is this? It's as if there's some preset applied, but I can't find anything.
 
I believe LR4 automatically sets the whites/blacks to avoid clipping, though the sliders will still read 0. I can't find a source on this however so I'm not sure where I got it from.

It'll also apply whatever preset you select in the import dialogue so check you haven't accidentally set one of those. And you might have set some modified settings as the default by accident so check that.

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Check Edit > Preferences > Presets and see if "Apply auto tone adjustments" is ticked.
 
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When you view RAW files sometimes what you see is the RAW file but other times it's the embedded JPG which may have in-camera settings for brightness, contrast & saturation applied. This just happens for a moment whilst the computer or software is rendering the RAW file.

I'm not familiar enough with the views inside LightRoom to know if that's what you're talking about but the symptoms sound similar.
 
If you look at one of the images in the develop module is there anything in the history part on the left hand side?
 
Thanks for looking guys.
Darren... The only thing thats in the history panel when the photo opens in the develop module is the date of the import, however, some of the develop sliders are not set to zero they read...

White balance panel... Tint -9

Sharpening panel...Amount 25
Radius 1.0
Detail 25

Noise reduction panel..Colour 25
Detail 50

I have never set these sliders to these values so why they are set I don't know. Hope this helps, thanks.
 
The tint is part of the white balance so that's normal. The sharpening and noise reductions values you've quoted are the defaults so those are normal too. The Tone Curve and the Luminance settings in the HSL panel could affect the brightness of the image too, but...

I'm not sure what it could be considering before/after if there's nothing in the history panel. Before is the first state in the history panel (normally the import) and after is the most recent. If there's only one thing listed there the before and after states should be identical.

I've just tried putting auto tone and some other stuff on then doing imports but I only get one history state and the before and after are identical so it can't be that.

All I can think to do is reset the default to be absolutely sure (Develop module, hold alt, Reset will change to "Set Default...", click that and a window comes up, click Restore Adobe Default Settings) and then try a new import with the import preset set to none to see if the same thing happens. I don't think that will fix it but I don't really understand what LR is doing at this point.
 
The tint is part of the white balance so that's normal. The sharpening and noise reductions values you've quoted are the defaults so those are normal too. The Tone Curve and the Luminance settings in the HSL panel could affect the brightness of the image too, but...

I'm not sure what it could be considering before/after if there's nothing in the history panel. Before is the first state in the history panel (normally the import) and after is the most recent. If there's only one thing listed there the before and after states should be identical.

I've just tried putting auto tone and some other stuff on then doing imports but I only get one history state and the before and after are identical so it can't be that.

All I can think to do is reset the default to be absolutely sure (Develop module, hold alt, Reset will change to "Set Default...", click that and a window comes up, click Restore Adobe Default Settings) and then try a new import with the import preset set to none to see if the same thing happens. I don't think that will fix it but I don't really understand what LR is doing at this point.

TOP MAN! The reset did the trick :clap: Thank you very much.:thumbs:
 
Strange that it was showing you a different before for that as I don't seem to get one with modified default settings - but at least it's sorted.
 
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