Lighting Challenges discussion thread

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 6830" data-quote="Garry Edwards" data-source="post: 9697756" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9697756" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9697756">Garry Edwards said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It is, deliberately, I didn&#039;t say that it was made of chrome-plated steel and so highly reflective with complex shapes, it was just a simple example. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What would be a budget for something like that Garry, could I fly to the alps to get a lovely crisp snowy background to intimate clean and fresh</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">No chance! When I retired 10 years ago I would charge for one day, £1,000 plus any technical costs, no job ever lasts less than a day, more effluent areas such as London would be much higher, even allowing for inflation your trip, although technically a technical cost, wouldn&#039;t pay<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 6830" data-quote="Garry Edwards" data-source="post: 9697747" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9697747" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9697747">Garry Edwards said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Briefs can vary a lot here, from half a sheet of paper to a book, and when the agency really hates a photographer they send along a <s>failed photographer</s> creative director to supervise, demand the impossible and get in the way, so there are wide variations. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" data-smilie="68"data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 6830" data-quote="Garry Edwards" data-source="post: 9697747" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9697747" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9697747">Garry Edwards said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> his appeals to me personally, but I think it may be a bit too demanding for many people... I think that it&#039;s now working well, Many people have achieved great things<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> The problem for me is to keep it going, which is why I keep asking for help. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I can help talk someone through almost any situation/problem as well as most; and I&#039;m more than willing...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Excellent, we have our first willing volunteer <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /><br /> <br /> Any lighting technique you like, as long as it doesn&#039;t need much in terms of either gear or space, one or two lights.<br /> Any subject you like, as long as it isn&#039;t rare, expensive or similar, <span style="color: rgb(235, 107, 86)"><b>* </b></span>which is why I tend to go for squishy biscuit things, baguettes, cups, bottles or similar - people often tend to go for similar subjects to mine, even though they don&#039;t need to.<br /> <br /> And SOOC images, for honesty and demonstrating the truth of the lighting effect.<br /> <br /> By all means run any ideas you have through me first if that will help, via PM<br /> <br /> <b><span style="color: rgb(235, 107, 86)">*</span></b> As an example of what not to do, I&#039;d like to set a challenge using one of my old side x side shotguns as the subject, lots of carvings, engraving, shiny bits, patina etc but that wouldn&#039;t work in the UK</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Being cheeky here, but if you don&#039;t ask you don&#039;t get, some of the challenges focus on single items would it be at all possible to share your expertise on multiple objects of different shapes and sizes?<br /> <br /> round, square, tubes etc and the ways we could overcome the challenges that crop up in a scene like that.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I must say the black camera lens on a black background idea Steven suggested sounded quite intriguing. I was planning on experimenting with that over the weekend. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 88213" data-quote="RyanB" data-source="post: 9697780" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9697780" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9697780">RyanB said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I must say the black camera lens on a black background idea Steven suggested sounded quite intriguing. I was planning on experimenting with that over the weekend. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Anyone else?<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/15731458951_90bfe0cf29_c-jpg.474253/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.talkphotography.org/data/attachments/458/458532-56b8b635d591de9efe04ce269cb3b295.jpg?hash=Vri2NdWR3p" srcset="" class="bbImage " style="" alt="15731458951_90bfe0cf29_c.jpg" title="15731458951_90bfe0cf29_c.jpg" width="194" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 98853" data-quote="Barney" data-source="post: 9697778" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9697778" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9697778">Barney said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Being cheeky here, but if you don&#039;t ask you don&#039;t get, some of the challenges focus on single items would it be at all possible to share your expertise on multiple objects of different shapes and sizes?<br /> <br /> round, square, tubes etc and the ways we could overcome the challenges that crop up in a scene like that. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Something like this? Or more like multiple perfume bottles of various shapes? <br /> Because if it is the latter, the &quot;easy way&quot; to overcome those kind of issues is often photographing them separately and compositing.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/17906507104_4033865841_c-jpg.474252/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.talkphotography.org/data/attachments/458/458531-7f74b20ef42fd2757d35bad3b8ba6194.jpg?hash=f3SyDvQv0n" srcset="" class="bbImage " style="" alt="17906507104_4033865841_c.jpg" title="17906507104_4033865841_c.jpg" width="267" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 62098" data-quote="sk66" data-source="post: 9697826" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9697826" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9697826">sk66 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Anyone else?<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/474253/" target="_blank">View attachment 474253</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That&#039;s really cool.<br /> I&#039;ll give it a go <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" data-smilie="72"data-shortname="(y)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">My attempt at the black lens on black background technique. <br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/final85mm1024-jpg.474439/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.talkphotography.org/data/attachments/458/458718-cbc61f7354f8da10ca09ffc03c70b9be.jpg?hash=y8Yfc1T42h" srcset="" class="bbImage " style="" alt="Final85mm1024.jpg" title="Final85mm1024.jpg" width="225" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a><br /> Many thanks for keeping me amused for some of the weekend. <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/members/62098/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="62098" data-username="@sk66">@sk66</a> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> <br /> <br /> I documented the steps I took and the setup so if the results were deemed worthy it could pretty easily be cobbled into a challenge.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 88213" data-quote="RyanB" data-source="post: 9698307" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698307" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698307">RyanB said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My attempt at the black lens on black background technique.<br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/474439/" target="_blank">View attachment 474439</a><br /> Many thanks for keeping me amused for some of the weekend. <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/members/62098/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="62098" data-username="@sk66">@sk66</a> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /><br /> <br /> I documented the steps I took and the setup so if the results were deemed worthy it could pretty easily be cobbled into a challenge. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Very good start. The challenge won&#039;t be posted until next month (giving 1 month between each). Every attempt is &quot;worthy&quot;... the point isn&#039;t perfection; it&#039;s improvement (knowledge, skill, etc).</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 62098" data-quote="sk66" data-source="post: 9698327" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698327" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698327">sk66 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Very good start. The challenge won&#039;t be posted until next month (giving 1 month between each). Every attempt is &quot;worthy&quot;... the point isn&#039;t perfection; it&#039;s improvement (knowledge, skill, etc). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>So its in the works and I jumped the gun... oops! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <br /> Looking forward to seeing the official challenge. I struggled to get things balanced exactly how I wanted in my minds eye, one degree here or there on the lights, lens or camera gave vastly different results. Light spillage on the BG and specular highlights were a pain, its got to be one of the most difficult subject/ styles I have tried to photograph to date. <br /> Loads of fun though.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">A change in the angle of the lens would give a different result, showing F stops or focus scale for instance.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 98853" data-quote="Barney" data-source="post: 9698332" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698332" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698332">Barney said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> A change in the angle of the lens would give a different result, showing F stops or focus scale for instance. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not the point of that specific challenge but I really liked using the lights to show off the MC and aperture of the lens. I barely changed the lights positions, only the position of the lens and camera for this one.<br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/lens3-jpg.474447/" target="_blank"><img src="https://www.talkphotography.org/data/attachments/458/458726-1be24e17b82e55d4862544f5ff6265b5.jpg?hash=G-JOF7guVd" srcset="" class="bbImage " style="" alt="lens3.jpg" title="lens3.jpg" width="225" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 88213" data-quote="RyanB" data-source="post: 9698339" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698339" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698339">RyanB said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Not the point of that specific challenge but I really liked using the lights to show off the MC and aperture of the lens. I barely changed the lights positions, only the position of the lens and camera for this one.<br /> <a href="https://www.talkphotography.org/attachments/474447/" target="_blank">View attachment 474447</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Pro shot Ryan</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 62098" data-quote="sk66" data-source="post: 9698358" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698358" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698358">sk66 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Save it for the challenge, otherwise there will be no point in making it... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>My bad...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 88213" data-quote="RyanB" data-source="post: 9698360" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698360" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698360">RyanB said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> My bad... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No worries...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 62098" data-quote="sk66" data-source="post: 9698358" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698358" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698358">sk66 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Save it for the challenge, otherwise there will be no point in making it... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Looking forward to that...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Challenge #9 is up<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 98853" data-quote="Barney" data-source="post: 9698364" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698364" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698364">Barney said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Looking forward to that... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 88213" data-quote="RyanB" data-source="post: 9698307" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9698307" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9698307">RyanB said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I documented the steps I took and the setup so if the results were deemed worthy it could pretty easily be cobbled into a challenge. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote></div>
 
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