Light orb question.

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I've photographed light orbs before and I've just made one for 2 up and coming meets. Question I have is, if I'm photographing multiple orbs, is it best to do one long exposure to capture multiple orbs or shorter exposures and blend in post?

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best doing them together me thinks depending on ambient light if it pich black, you can do them both at the same time if you have different lights just make one shorter than the other tied together, ie a longer and shorter light
 
so they both rotate on the same axis for better results so there no guesswork on size/different centre as the both rotating from one centre :thumbs: thats how I would go about it you could even add a 3rd
 
Mardybum said:
If you did multiple spins in one long exposure, would you not see the light trail as you moved the wheel/orb to its next position ?? I always thought that shots with multiple (2 or more) orbs were done separate and merged together with software after??
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nope they can be done separate as long as it dark enough,takes about 7 secs to do a 360, so 2 360s is 14 secs easy to do do its the lining up thats the hard part, no way would you need to use PP to it, if its pitch dark youll have between 5mins and 10mins for your painting
 
Mardybum said:
If you did multiple spins in one long exposure, would you not see the light trail as you moved the wheel/orb to its next position ?? I always thought that shots with multiple (2 or more) orbs were done separate and merged together with software after??
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no you turn it off between
 
If you have a long enough exposure so you can do multiple orbs, you may as well just do them in one.

You will have to create 2 perfect orb's in a row tho, question is, do you have the skill? ;)
 
It's all about the ambient light, frankly at the meet in December, it was that dark in the kiln that we could have done and hour long exposure in the low ISO range and I don't think there would have been any over exposure issues :lol:

Now do you do multible orbs in a single exposure? the simple thing is how confident are you in your skill as an orb spinner, if your not confident in your ability, then do it in single orb exposures and blend in post that way, if you fudge one of them to such an extent that it spoils the image then you've not lost 10-15 minutes plus of work

If however after some practice your confident in your ability to spin the orbs, and the abient light levels permit there is nothing to stop you doing all your light painting in a single exposure :thumbs:

Here is a video on orb spinning :thumbs:

[YOUTUBE]E5wEOuSQBpc[/YOUTUBE]

As an example of the levels that the masters will go to Dennis Smith is someone that many consider to be the master of the orb and this just some of his amazing photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/biskitboy/sets/72157622454865956/with/4146412707/

as you can see many contain mutiple orbs and he prides himself of no photoshoppery of his images to add in orbs, I seem to remember one of his thought I cannot for the life of me find it now that contained something like 47 orbs :eek:

Don't worry about light trails from tools moving between orb positions, the tool should not be switched on until up to full speed on the spin, and should be turned off before you start to slow down the spinning :thumbs: so should be off when your moving to the next position :thumbs:

Hope this provides some clarification

Matt
 
Don't worry about light trails from tools moving between orb positions, the tool should not be switched on until up to full speed on the spin, and should be turned off before you start to slow down the spinning :thumbs: so should be off when your moving to the next position :thumbs

So are the lights used remote control ? Or do you hold the end with the switch on and operate manually ??
 
Mardybum said:
Don't worry about light trails from tools moving between orb positions, the tool should not be switched on until up to full speed on the spin, and should be turned off before you start to slow down the spinning :thumbs: so should be off when your moving to the next position :thumbs

So are the lights used remote control ? Or do you hold the end with the switch on and operate manually ??
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hold the end with the switch on and operate manually
 
some really usefull info here - just what i myself was wondering thanks :)
 
Just came accross this just now, I would advise doing multiple orbs in one shot... Much more satisfing than doing stuff in post :) Just make sure you prep on where you will be spinning, have your markers down on the ground and know wheer they are before you start your shot and you should be good to go.

The most I have done in one exposure is 4, 405 seconds of pure Orbing (I sping one 360 very slowly to get the nice crisp lines through out the whole orb, looks nicer imo)

The Aliens Have Landed! by M+M Morrison, on Flickr

To see more of my stuff and a rough guide to all my Light-Painting check out My Thread :) any questions just ask.
 
Superb Matt. Love that place to go to also when im back home, we will all need to go out together one night.
 
MWHCVT said:
It's all about the ambient light, frankly at the meet in December, it was that dark in the kiln that we could have done and hour long exposure in the low ISO range and I don't think there would have been any over exposure issues :lol:

Now do you do multible orbs in a single exposure? the simple thing is how confident are you in your skill as an orb spinner, if your not confident in your ability, then do it in single orb exposures and blend in post that way, if you fudge one of them to such an extent that it spoils the image then you've not lost 10-15 minutes plus of work

If however after some practice your confident in your ability to spin the orbs, and the abient light levels permit there is nothing to stop you doing all your light painting in a single exposure :thumbs:

Here is a video on orb spinning :thumbs:

[YOUTUBE]E5wEOuSQBpc[/YOUTUBE]

As an example of the levels that the masters will go to Dennis Smith is someone that many consider to be the master of the orb and this just some of his amazing photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/biskitboy/sets/72157622454865956/with/4146412707/

as you can see many contain mutiple orbs and he prides himself of no photoshoppery of his images to add in orbs, I seem to remember one of his thought I cannot for the life of me find it now that contained something like 47 orbs :eek:

Don't worry about light trails from tools moving between orb positions, the tool should not be switched on until up to full speed on the spin, and should be turned off before you start to slow down the spinning :thumbs: so should be off when your moving to the next position :thumbs:

Hope this provides some clarification

Matt
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I've just watched that video and, having never been interested in the past, it's now on my 'to do' list.
 
Just Dave said:
pleased I pmd Matt to look at the thread and give advice, look forward to what you produce
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:thumbs:

Phil V said:
I've just watched that video and, having never been interested in the past, it's now on my 'to do' list.
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It really is great fun and the results can be spectacular.

To produce one that gets a 'wow!' Though its gotta be special.

Cheers, all.
 
Andy, its all in the wrist action! :whistling:
 
here's a couple i did indoors last night - not orbs but globes similar effect and would seem easier to do multiple globes in minutes - hope you dont mind me posting here - hope you like em..
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