Life without a car?

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TCR4x4 said:
It appears the OPs "friend" has a previous SP50, although over 3 years old.


Shows the bloke is an idiot who doesn't learn and deserves everything they get.

I would imagine they frequently do this sort of thing and have been lucky thus far not to get caught again.
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Yes, anyone who does 140 in a 70 zone has got a speeding problem. That is no one off incident.
 
nilagin said:
When accelerating on slip roads to join motorways, you'd be foolhardy to focus on scenery and reference points. Your focusing on other cars and gaps to merge. Don't know about the cars you've driven but mine makes no more wind or road noise at slow or fast speeds unless the windows are open. My car has uprated suspension so doesn't lift at the front and dip at the rear like standard suspension, this also negates the sense of speed. At 70mph my car is at about 1800rpm in 6th, it's fairly quiet even with a performance exhaust.
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Amongst numerous cars, I've owned two BMW M3's, and currently have a 530d Sport. I've driven the majority of modern luxury and performance vehicles knocking about, such as M BMW's, RS Audi's, Bentleys, Rolls Royce Phantom & Ghost, various Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati models and 50 miles in a Veyron. So I'm quite aware of what it's like to accelerate in fast and refined cars. By reference points, it should mean many things; other vehicles, scenery, pad furniture, etc etc. You should have an awareness of all these things, not just focus on a gap you're aiming for. Anyway, this is somewhat rather digressing from the original thread, but my point is that if someone claims to have achieved this massive velocity by accident, they shouldn't be allowed to pilot a car.

The only time I've ever been able to say I've experienced going from standstill to high speed without beig aware I'm even moving was sat in a Eurotunnel carriage.
 
Shine On said:
Amongst numerous cars, I've owned two BMW M3's, and currently have a 530d Sport. I've driven the majority of modern luxury and performance vehicles knocking about, such as M BMW's, RS Audi's, Bentleys, Rolls Royce Phantom & Ghost, various Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati models and 50 miles in a Veyron. So I'm quite aware of what it's like to accelerate in fast and refined cars. By reference points, it should mean many things; other vehicles, scenery, pad furniture, etc etc. You should have an awareness of all these things, not just focus on a gap you're aiming for. Anyway, this is somewhat rather digressing from the original thread, but my point is that if someone claims to have achieved this massive velocity by accident, they shouldn't be allowed to pilot a car.
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If that lot produce more wind/road noise the faster you go, you should have saved your money and bought a Mondeo.:thumbs:
 
nilagin said:
If that lot produce more wind/road noise the faster you go, you should have saved your money and bought a Mondeo.:thumbs:
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Thanks for that, I'll keep it in mind. But as a last attempt to make the point that the car you are in is irrelevant because I think you're missing my point (and none of the lairy cars are mine, they belong to customers, I'm a world away from spending £250k+ on a car!). Drive a Rolls Royce Phantom or Bentley Mulsanne at 70mph and its barely noisier than at walking pace. But due to the massive steps forward in optical clarity technology (in other words, windows), you can see the world is passing by at a greater rate. If you don't believe that, most cars have a handy device in the dashboard which displays your speed in real time. You don't need to be exposed to the elements like in a Caterham to be aware you're travelling quickly.

Either way, I choose not to drive like a meat member on the public roads, so this isn't an issue likely to trouble me, and therefore I'll leave the OP to it. Perhaps he should start spending the majority of his day in the smallest room in the house to become acclimatised to a small space. You know, just in case.
 
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Aside from hitching lifts and favours from mates, this sounds like a possible start for an interesting project on how to pursue a hobby within massive limitations. Obviously, a ban would be a massive hinderance in everyday life but something like this could be a very positive project not only for himself but also for others that feel trapped once they've given their liberty away through dangerous driving.
 
electric bike , no licence needed

I've just bought a subaru impreza wrx so we could go out shooting together in a couple of months :lol:
 
Shine On said:
You don't need to be exposed to the elements like in a Caterham to be aware you're travelling quickly.
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When I can afford a second car I'm going to get a Caterham 7, I could get tonnes of enjoyment from one by just sitting and looking at it, never mind even driving it.
 
Shine On said:
Amongst numerous cars, I've owned two BMW M3's, and currently have a 530d Sport. I've driven the majority of modern luxury and performance vehicles knocking about, such as M BMW's, RS Audi's, Bentleys, Rolls Royce Phantom & Ghost, various Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati models and 50 miles in a Veyron. So I'm quite aware of what it's like to accelerate in fast and refined cars. By reference points, it should mean many things; other vehicles, scenery, pad furniture, etc etc. You should have an awareness of all these things, not just focus on a gap you're aiming for. Anyway, this is somewhat rather digressing from the original thread, but my point is that if someone claims to have achieved this massive velocity by accident, they shouldn't be allowed to pilot a car.

The only time I've ever been able to say I've experienced going from standstill to high speed without beig aware I'm even moving was sat in a Eurotunnel carriage.
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You're exactly right. Whoever says that you should only be aware of the gap you're merging into needs to retake their test. When you drive you don't look 100 metres in front of you, you look to as far as your eye can see on the road to look for upcoming hazards etc. If you see brake lights a mile ahead, you're well prepared and it's a safer way to drive.

If people can't tell they're going way too fast, they clearly aren't aware and aren't observant enough to be safe on the roads.
 
When i was first learning to drive I had no idea about looking as far as I could see. I had about 6-10 lessons before I was told I should be doing this. Prior to this id been just looking over the tip of the bonnet.
That driving instructor also encouraged me to look in the rear view mirror by holding page 3 behind his head. He was a family friend and didn't like it one bit when I told him I was changing instructors. 5hitt happens, you didn't kill anyone. Back in the day when I was young and foolish I did worse in a more clapped out car and luckily harmed no-one. Im at the age where I realise how precious life is so don't drive like a tool anymore
 
WillNicholls said:
You're exactly right. Whoever says that you should only be aware of the gap you're merging into needs to retake their test. When you drive you don't look 100 metres in front of you, you look to as far as your eye can see on the road to look for upcoming hazards etc. If you see brake lights a mile ahead, you're well prepared and it's a safer way to drive.

If people can't tell they're going way too fast, they clearly aren't aware and aren't observant enough to be safe on the roads.
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My driving instructor taught a drill of every few seconds flicking your eyes to the mirror , then to the speedo - after 20 years of driving I do it instinctively so i'm always aware how fast i'm travelling

I think ive only once had the "oooh crap am i really going that fast" moment , which was in my mate's shelby mustang when i booted it to overtake and glanced at the speedo to see that i was momentarily doing 90mph :eek: after years of driving a tdci that much umph from the loud pedal was a novel experience

I'm not saying i never creep up to 75 on a motorway or dual carriageway but i'm always aware of how fast the car is going (and 75 indicated probably isnt much more than 70 actual anyway)

I can't see any way someone could get to 140mph without realising they were going far to fast unless they were completely oblivious in which case they'd be driving without due care and attention anyway
 
big soft moose said:
My driving instructor taught a drill of every few seconds flicking your eyes to the mirror , then to the speedo - after 20 years of driving I do it instinctively so i'm always aware how fast i'm travelling

I think ive only once had the "oooh crap am i really going that fast" moment , which was in my mate's shelby mustang when i booted it to overtake and glanced at the speedo to see that i was momentarily doing 90mph :eek: after years of driving a tdci that much umph from the loud pedal was a novel experience

I'm not saying i never creep up to 75 on a motorway or dual carriageway but i'm always aware of how fast the car is going (and 75 indicated probably isnt much more than 70 actual anyway)

I can't see any way someone could get to 140mph without realising they were going far to fast unless they were completely oblivious in which case they'd be driving without due care and attention anyway
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That just because you want to see if your still pretty :lol:
 
pepi1967 said:
That just because you want to see if your still pretty :lol:
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nah I know I'm handsome (rough manly men are not 'pretty' ) from the amount of female attention I get

The eyes on the mirror thing is to check that none of them are stalking me





:coat:
 
big soft moose said:
My driving instructor taught a drill of every few seconds flicking your eyes to the mirror , then to the speedo - after 20 years of driving I do it instinctively so i'm always aware how fast i'm travelling
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I do something similar but with the wing mirrors (not everything has a central mirror).

I continuously look ahead - left mirror - ahead - right mirror - ahead (repeat until destination is reached!). The speedometer is looked on the way to the right mirror.


Steve
 
big soft moose said:
nah I know I'm handsome (rough manly men are not 'pretty' ) from the amount of female attention I get

The eyes on the mirror thing is to check that none of them are stalking me





:coat:
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Yes but that is England not Scotland....


...and the OP said his "friend" was charged with dangerous driving....


...and it has been a while since he posted on here....
 
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I would think that pleading guilty would probably receive a less harsh sentence. They're likely to throw the book at him for wasting court time. The facts seem clear, what is there to quibble about?

Speed limits are there for a reason.
 
Tigger.ufo said:
Yes but that is England not Scotland....


...and the OP said his "friend" was charged with dangerous driving....


...and it has been a while since he posted on here....
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He's not in prison, if that's what you're trying to say. He's still posting often on here and facebook :thumbs:
 
JakeT1992 said:
He's not in prison, if that's what you're trying to say. He's still posting often on here and facebook :thumbs:
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Not implying anything of the sort as I am aware that the OP has posted on other threads recently. :)

What I said was that he hadn't posted on here. ;)

Would be interested to see how his "friend" got on in court, if it has happened yet, though. :D
 
big soft moose said:
No - a ban is all he will get , what he should get is a lifetime ban , a 5k fine, and a good seeing to by a fat armed robber called vinnie
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A very silly and hysterical post over what was a silly one off event by my friend. What would that achieve, he is suitably chasened by the charges and is a law abiding tax paying member of society. As he will get his knuckles suitably wrapped without jail time why would you wish that on someone thats done you no harm?
 
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And on that note, might be time to close the thread. Mind the doors please
 
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