Legal issues

Jade, see the link in post #1 of the thread...
 
i could look up the child protection act if u like its my sepcialitiy
 
AIUI the Child Protection Act has nothing to do with photography. It's all about the what the state does to maintain certain lists and what duties specific groups/organisations have to do as employers wrt to those lists.
 
its also about the duties of protection toward children we have :) and also there is the every child matters paper did u know it is sillegal by jail sentance to photograph a child in care :)
 
Without going off topic too far (photographers rights) what piece of law specifically states jail for photographing a child in care - does it define the type of care and exceptions? I do occasional jobs for my County Council and have been in this exact situation.
 
it is when it will put the child at risk, such as when the child has been removed from their family due to abuse, and cannot know the location of the child. as it could risk the safety of the child. who is vulnerable. and often damaged. and as it is the councils, or organisations duty to provide a safe living enviroment free from harm, or fear of harm.
 
you have to get permission from the childs social worker, keyworker, or guardian for such. as the situation can be delecate especially within child protection cases. i came across this as i was a photographer at blackpool tower, and im a social work student, and came across this problem regularly
 
Your comment about being jailed for taking a photo of a child in care is, sadly, exactly the kind of thing that threatens photographers rights. Someone will mis-quote it without the background details, knowledge, or awareness in order to bully a perfectly innocent photographer to stop taking photos.

It's not simply a case of Johnny Random taking a perfectly innocent photo of a Christmas Carol concert and suddenly finding themselves doing porridge as a result. The duty of care lies with the guardian/care worker/parent/etc. and the prosecution would need to prove wilful intent to get a conviction.

A common example of this kind of mis-conception is non payment of Council Tax. Local councils will often threaten jail as a result of not paying but it will only happen if wilful intent not to pay is proven.
 
LMAO callign me a bully? not been called that in a few years ;) cheer :)
 
Not at all ;)

But it's the type of comment used in the increasing number of stories where a photographer has been stopped from shooting in a public place.

There's enough idiots out there making our lives difficult, we don't want to be giving them more reasons to be stoopid :D
 
lol im only telling u what ive been trained, to do. lol its what we are told
 
just the same as if a child in SS care is injured unless u have the FA qual, u got to leave them where they are not touch them and call an ambulance. as they are allowed sue u for damages. welcome to Great britain.
 
What does your training say about taking a child in care out into a public place where they'll be surrounded by hundreds of people with p&s camera, phone cameras, Security CCTV (which anyone can get access to under the DPA) and so on?

Have everyone in line of sight arrested? :thinking:

If someone came up to me and told me I could be jailed for taking a photo in a public place I'd laugh myself silly.
 
to be honest i not been in that situation lol. you just have to do a risk assesment before u take a child anywhere and wat does p&s mean?.... i dont know any phtography jargon. i know kids in care are not allowed to visit their friends houses, unless their friends parents have CRB checks, which they must pay for themselves. i dunno wat id do lol.
 
p&s = point and shoot.

Good question for you to pose in class at some point as well :thumbs:
 
So can I take a picture of anybody, a random stranger in the street and said person can't stop me?

I always assumed if I took a picture of someone and they didn't want me having that photo I had to delete it. It's never happened before because I lack confidence to take photos like that.
 
its not polite tho... and defo bad manners lol if ya did it to me without asking and i was in a bad mood u might eat the camera, lol so think other people might feel the same :) if u get me ;) its good to ask or u might snap the wrong person lol
 
Well yeah I wouldn't just take a photo of someone right in their face but I could see me taking photos of a crowd at a gig, which I have done. But I know one day someone will say to me to delete all the photos with them in it. When really I don't want to.
 
i think ud be better to ask them their reasns and if u cant reason with them deleate it.
 
So can I take a picture of anybody, a random stranger in the street and said person can't stop me?

Yes. The UK doesn't have any privacy laws as such. If you are in a public place then no one can expect a right to privacy. That's the simple version, read the pdf linked to in post #1 of this thread for the detailed version.

No one can ask or force you to delete the photos, not even the Police, the most they can do is take the camera away as evidence - in which case deleting the photos is the last thing they'd do.
 
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