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Hi all first post here on the forum but have been reading in the background for some time,
hoping someone can help with advice in the lee 150 system, I currently have the 100 system that I mostly use on my 24-70 but I also have the 14-24 which I mostly use for aurora and astro shots but I find myself increasingly wanting to use it for landscapes as it really is a beautiful lens to use. My worry is that the lee stopper range is never off my lens and have read varying reviews of the mkii holder still leaking in light. was hoping to hear from anyone with experience of this system before parting with £, I see there is a 77mm adaptor ring meaning I could have just one system for all lenses. I have phoned around the usual sellers but cant seem to get a solid answer. I wont embarrass myself buy telling you how many times I have put the 150 system in my basket online :confused:
 
Hi, just seen your post....is it the 11-24 f4 you are talking about?.........you mention 14-24 but that's not a lens I have any knowledge of.

George.
 
George said:
Hi, just seen your post....is it the 11-24 f4 you are talking about?.........you mention 14-24 but that's not a lens I have any knowledge of.

George.
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I think it's dark side, George.
 
trossachs reflections said:
Hi all first post here on the forum but have been reading in the background for some time,
hoping someone can help with advice in the lee 150 system, I currently have the 100 system that I mostly use on my 24-70 but I also have the 14-24 which I mostly use for aurora and astro shots but I find myself increasingly wanting to use it for landscapes as it really is a beautiful lens to use. My worry is that the lee stopper range is never off my lens and have read varying reviews of the mkii holder still leaking in light. was hoping to hear from anyone with experience of this system before parting with £, I see there is a 77mm adaptor ring meaning I could have just one system for all lenses. I have phoned around the usual sellers but cant seem to get a solid answer. I wont embarrass myself buy telling you how many times I have put the 150 system in my basket online :confused:
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I'm not sure of the question you are asking here ... there is a 150mm stopper (little, big and super) available and it should be used with the lightshield however it is fitted ...
George said:
Hi, just seen your post....is it the 11-24 f4 you are talking about?.........you mention 14-24 but that's not a lens I have any knowledge of.

George.
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suspect this is the Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 - a rather good lens.
 
Thanks, Bob and Paul, yes I should have thought of that...silly me!!
 
Thanks for the replies yes it is the nikon 14-24 I was intending buying the 150 system for. My main concern and was hoping to hear from anyone using this system was the stories I have heard of light leakage using the new sw150 holder as the stopper range is a huge part of my photography and didn't want to shell out on a whole new system just to accommodate the 14-24 then be faced with light streaks over my photos as i have no problems with the 100 system. Since posting I made the jump and ordered up the holder and selection of filters. All seems ok so far apart from a bit of a halo effect when shooting in bright light.
 
trossachs reflections said:
Thanks for the replies yes it is the nikon 14-24 I was intending buying the 150 system for. My main concern and was hoping to hear from anyone using this system was the stories I have heard of light leakage using the new sw150 holder as the stopper range is a huge part of my photography and didn't want to shell out on a whole new system just to accommodate the 14-24 then be faced with light streaks over my photos as i have no problems with the 100 system. Since posting I made the jump and ordered up the holder and selection of filters. All seems ok so far apart from a bit of a halo effect when shooting in bright light.
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Well I'd be interested in your thoughts after a month or so.

Been playing with the system with the 11-24 Canon, but we don't think 150mm is enough to get coverage at the wide end.
 
George said:
Well I'd be interested in your thoughts after a month or so.

Been playing with the system with the 11-24 Canon, but we don't think 150mm is enough to get coverage at the wide end.
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I spent the day doing some seascapes shooting at the wide end with a big stopper and soft grad and the vignetting and light streaks are wild. I am unsure wether it's user error or because of the use of two filters being used. Disappointed after spending £1400 on it. Will need to experiment a bit to see if it is a consistent problem. Have you shot sunset or similar with stacked filters and found this ? Many thanks
 
trossachs reflections said:
I spent the day doing some seascapes shooting at the wide end with a big stopper and soft grad and the vignetting and light streaks are wild. I am unsure wether it's user error or because of the use of two filters being used. Disappointed after spending £1400 on it. Will need to experiment a bit to see if it is a consistent problem. Have you shot sunset or similar with stacked filters and found this ? Many thanks
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You need to take into account that you effectively have a flat piece of glass in front of a curved optic. The lens has a FOV 'Angle' and towards the edges of the frame, the light path is going through more filter material than light paths in the centre of the lens. In very crude and simple terms, the red line passes through the filter for a shorter distance than the blue line:-


lightpath by Mr Perceptive on Talk Photography

So this is the reason for Vignetting, the wider the FOV angle on the lens, the worse it is. To counteract, you will have to apply a reverse vignette in post processing.

Light Streaks, are possibly caused by poor sealing/
 
Mr Perceptive said:
You need to take into account that you effectively have a flat piece of glass in front of a curved optic. The lens has a FOV 'Angle' and towards the edges of the frame, the light path is going through more filter material than light paths in the centre of the lens. In very crude and simple terms, the red line passes through the filter for a shorter distance than the blue line:-


lightpath by Mr Perceptive on Talk Photography

So this is the reason for Vignetting, the wider the FOV angle on the lens, the worse it is. To counteract, you will have to apply a reverse vignette in post processing.

Light Streaks, are possibly caused by poor sealing/
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Thanks for the detailed reply, I was used to some vignetting with the lens I've had it for a while and sorting it in processing was no big deal but when I stack two filters it really is quite bad. I am hoping it is user error as I Have never had any problems with the 100 system. I will try as you say and try reverse vignetting in post and let you know. Many thanks for the reply
 
trossachs reflections said:
I spent the day doing some seascapes shooting at the wide end with a big stopper and soft grad and the vignetting and light streaks are wild. I am unsure wether it's user error or because of the use of two filters being used. Disappointed after spending £1400 on it. Will need to experiment a bit to see if it is a consistent problem. Have you shot sunset or similar with stacked filters and found this ? Many thanks
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If you're shooting sunsets, then I'd expect some flare effects from stacking two filters, especially uncoated ones, and inevitable vignetting with a super-wide. You may also get issues with sealing around around the Big Stopper, or light through the viewfinder, but those things should be easy to trace and fix.

Maybe consider metal-deposit ND filters like the HiTech Firecrest that appear to be almost immune to the vignetting problem. Another solution is rear-mounted filters but this ranges from difficult to impossible.
 
Aurora Aperture make a series of filters for rear mounting on some Canon lenses (11-24, 8-15, 16-35, 17-40) and I suspect that this approach might be your best solution if you can find some way to fix them onto the backend of your 14-24.
If you're interested in going down this route then I can measure my filters and see if you can find a workable solution.

Bob
 
There are other ways to produce simulated long exposure ND filter effects, either by shooting multiple short exposures one on top of the other in-camera, or by combining multiple separate images in post-processing. No ND filters necessary, none of the hassle and associated problems, and more control.

I've hardly touched a graduated filter since moving to digital, I don't use a polariser as much as I did these days, and though I haven't tried the stacking multiple exposures trick myself yet, I can see that my ten-stopper ND filter is probably heading the same way. Lots of on-line vids about this, a quick google brought up this one

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC606SLxCg
 
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