Ken Rockwell gone too far?

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Now I am not an avid reader of his site but went on there to find some specs of a lens, in his latest news article about the new Pentax full frame camera he suggests there for people with Aspergers!

About 4th paragraph he starts talking drivel, I'm not a 100% on what the condition was but NHS website lists it slightly different to what he seems to think it is!

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/00-new-today.htm
 
Will I click or not...
Nope, not biting :)
 
for once i have to agree with him
 
The camera may be crap, and he clearly feels that, but equating it to be fit for people with a condition he clearly knows nothing about puts him squarely in the cockwomble section in this case.

He could have made his point easily without going in that direction.
 
He's got to drive traffic through his website somehow, and what could be better than starting arguments on the internet? ;)

It's probably a great camera, but I'd rather have an A7II - not that either will happen at those prices.
 
viv1969 said:
The camera may be crap, and he clearly feels that, but equating it to be fit for people with a condition he clearly knows nothing about puts him squarely in the cockwomble section in this case.

He could have made his point easily without going in that direction.
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Cockwomble, now there's a word I have not heard in a while :)
 
Cockwomble, bunglecu*t, dickwad, complete glove puppet. He is the Daily Fail of the photography blogging world.
 
Steep said:
Cockwomble, bunglecu*t, dickwad, complete glove puppet. He is the Daily Fail of the photography blogging world.
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I hate it when people skirt the issue, I'd much rather they came out and said what they meant TBH

:p
 
Fail to see the issue, he clearly clarifies in brackets following the comment why he's made the statement. Move along nothing to see and for my own clarity i generally find him a clown and amusing but in this case (imo) you've been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over sensitive to come here and post this. TP isn't DPreview ;)
 
dejongj said:
I think the OP is a bit overly sensitive. There is clearly a reference to restricted interests. People are so easily offended these days. Sigh.
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I don't think it's fair to tar all of Pentax 11 users with the same brush!
 
ian-83 said:
He has shifted his love from Nikon to Canon so I've decided to follow his lead and go all Canon! The man's a God in my eyes!
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I don't care where his focus is.
 
ian-83 said:
He has shifted his love from Nikon to Canon so I've decided to follow his lead and go all Canon! The man's a God in my eyes!
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After the Nikon D5 and D 500 are released in March he will be back on Nikon.
 
aspergers is hilarious
 
fabs said:
I think "humour" suggests just that JP.
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First thing that gets displayed on Wikipedia regarding Aspergers

Asperger_syndrome_-_Wikipedia__the_free_encyclopedia.png

All Ken said was

but I fail to see who would buy it other than some feeble Aspergian hope to recycle old lenses from my K1000. (For those of you who don't have to care for as many on-the-spectrum people as I do on a daily basis, those with Asperger's have great difficulty handling change. Many outsiders may miss my point: those with this disorder find it an insurmountable obstacle to dump their old lenses and get new ones instead.)
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I really fail to see why that has to be avoided. People are way to overly sensitive in my opinion. Having had two people in my team, we laugh about it a lot and make it discussable, and shared coping mechanisms and strategies...In my opinion much better than hushed away and best not talked about...
 
dejongj said:
First thing that gets displayed on Wikipedia regarding Aspergers

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All Ken said was



I really fail to see why that has to be avoided. People are way to overly sensitive in my opinion. Having had two people in my team, we laugh about it a lot and make it discussable, and shared coping mechanisms and strategies...In my opinion much better than hushed away and best not talked about...
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JP, I wasn't referring to Rockwell, I was answering Simon.
 
dejongj said:
First thing that gets displayed on Wikipedia regarding Aspergers

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All Ken said was



I really fail to see why that has to be avoided. People are way to overly sensitive in my opinion. Having had two people in my team, we laugh about it a lot and make it discussable, and shared coping mechanisms and strategies...In my opinion much better than hushed away and best not talked about...
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I've no problem with him making reference to Aspegers if he knows about the condition.
His use of the word 'feeble' to describe those who have it, proves that he doesn't.
He could have expressed his opinion without showing his ignorance.
 
I can't say I have a lot of time for the bloke anyway, however I am sure he could have found a better analogy. The fact that he had to spend more words explaining the analogy than he used making it should have been indicator enough.

Those that know me, will vouch for my thick skin however, I find using the subject in humour to be offensive. Those that live with either Asbergers or ASD battle every day against things and emotions the rest of us take for granted. Even just getting the condition recognised so that they can get the help and support they need can take years.
 
ChrisHeathcote said:
I can't say I have a lot of time for the bloke anyway, however I am sure he could have found a better analogy. The fact that he had to spend more words explaining the analogy than he used making it should have been indicator enough.
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I agree that there are better analogies that are perhaps less divisive but you know, sometimes these things happen. His post as I quoted above is not the original, I guess he had a lot of people rise up to the original and felt the need to explain..

ChrisHeathcote said:
Those that know me, will vouch for my thick skin however, I find using the subject in humour to be offensive. Those that live with either Asbergers or ASD battle every day against things and emotions the rest of us take for granted. Even just getting the condition recognised so that they can get the help and support they need can take years.
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Very thick skin, literally :) Further to our other chats I can't begin to image the challenges you and your family have and are still facing, amongst many others.

Personally I think any discussion, any recognition is much better than not being able to use it. The adults that I work with that have it also prefer it like that and we can laugh (and cry) together about some of the situations that arise. Ultimately I think people cope with things differently, and to me this is such a trivial remark, and in context I do think it is more accurate than offensive. Sure it doesn't begin to touch the depths of the syndrome, but gone too far? No in my opinion not at all. I appreciate that other peoples opinion may differ.
 
dejongj said:
I agree that there are better analogies that are perhaps less divisive but you know, sometimes these things happen. His post as I quoted above is not the original, I guess he had a lot of people rise up to the original and felt the need to explain..


Very thick skin, literally :) Further to our other chats I can't begin to image the challenges you and your family have and are still facing, amongst many others.

Personally I think any discussion, any recognition is much better than not being able to use it. The adults that I work with that have it also prefer it like that and we can laugh (and cry) together about some of the situations that arise. Ultimately I think people cope with things differently, and to me this is such a trivial remark, and in context I do think it is more accurate than offensive. Sure it doesn't begin to touch the depths of the syndrome, but gone too far? No in my opinion not at all. I appreciate that other peoples opinion may differ.
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I personally find that his comments whilst in slightly poor taste are not particularly offensive, as Marc pointed out it was more the way it was interpreted as humour. I agree people do have different coping mechanisms and also are at different stages of their life. Your colleagues for example have learnt how to cope and are able to live as normal a life as they can, my hope is that my son will be able to live and have as many of the opportunities that you and I take for granted every day, without people seeing one of his "episodes" and giving disapproving looks as they walk past. I also agree there should be a lot more awareness of the condition. Many still hear the word Autism and conjour up images of Dustin Hoffman in Rainman.
 
ChrisHeathcote said:
I personally find that his comments whilst in slightly poor taste are not particularly offensive, as Marc pointed out it was more the way it was interpreted as humour. I agree people do have different coping mechanisms and also are at different stages of their life. Your colleagues for example have learnt how to cope and are able to live as normal a life as they can, my hope is that my son will be able to live and have as many of the opportunities that you and I take for granted every day, without people seeing one of his "episodes" and giving disapproving looks as they walk past. I also agree there should be a lot more awareness of the condition. Many still hear the word Autism and conjour up images of Dustin Hoffman in Rainman.
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And I can only hope and dream with you that that will happen. I'm a big advocate of fully integrating people with differing abilities within the workforce and every element of life. When I see statistics that 20% of us in the UK is classified as having some kind of disability benefit than I think we have a totally wrong approach to this as a society, we need to be much more inclusive and be aware and appreciative of all aspects of diversity.
 
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