Just curious

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Do you look for Exif data on images?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 33.3%

  • No

    Votes: 5 16.7%

  • Sometimes

    Votes: 13 43.3%

  • What is EXIF Data?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Do butterfly's really like butter?

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Total voters
    30
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It's a useful tool when learning. The Flickr groups I had for my students really helped illustrate the various settings and the effects. It's also great for helping someone fault find. Why is it blurred? In some cases it's obvious, but in others, not so. Having EXIF data can help. And on the odd occasion it had been stripped (for whatever reason), all we could do was make guesses about what the problem might have been, as often the beginner was on auto.
 
Cobra said:
Again, Who cares?
I wonder how many people actually read it?
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I don’t but obviously you don’t care which is fair enough. I’m just saying that some people do and whether it’s sensible/necessay/useful or not is not the point as I can’t see what harm (except in some specific cases with names and p,aces) it does so why remove it?

As has been said sometimes its removed automatically at source or on arrival at Facebook, WhatsApp etc.
 
sphexx said:
so why remove it?
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I always save for web, and as before CS5 strips it out.
I've always done it that way.
No malice intended :D
 
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Oh I have found a use for exif / times / dates.
People posting in time sensitive competitions,
and dropping themselves in it by leaving it there (y) :D
 
L320Rio said:
Only if you tell it to. You do have options.
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I don't tell it to do anything, maybe its the default. I've no idea except that it has always done it.
 
Harlequin565 said:
It's a useful tool when learning. The Flickr groups I had for my students really helped illustrate the various settings and the effects. It's also great for helping someone fault find. Why is it blurred? In some cases it's obvious, but in others, not so. Having EXIF data can help. And on the odd occasion it had been stripped (for whatever reason), all we could do was make guesses about what the problem might have been, as often the beginner was on auto.
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Absolutely.

EXIF is also really helpful when it comes to sorting, filing, and cataloguing your images.
 
Cobra said:
Oh I have found a use for exif / times / dates.
People posting in time sensitive competitions,
and dropping themselves in it by leaving it there (y) :D
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Well really that’s the sort of point I was making about the specific camera groups on Flickr!

I think there would be case for non-erasable/editable EXIF-type data in the era of photoshop and AI for competion and newas photos etc. I’ve no idea how it could be done though.
 
sphexx said:
I think there would be case for non-erasable/editable EXIF-type data in the era of photoshop and AI for competion and newas photos etc. I’ve no idea how it could be done though.
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Maybe they'll do it like in the schools where they get AI to mark papers to check whether they were written by AI :runaway::runaway::runaway:

Or force people to use film and supply the negative... :exit:
 
L320Rio said:
Not necessarily. Two people stood side by side taking a panning shot of a moving car will get two totally different images if they use different shutter speeds.
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But a very similar shot could be achieved with:
Different shutter speed and vehicle speed
Different focal length and subject distance.

So the answer to the question ‘to get this precise amount of blur, do I need x shutter speed’ is ‘that depends on subject distance from the camera and subject velocity, along with the shutter speed’.

And the exif info won’t tell anyone the subject speed.
 
L320Rio said:
EXIF is also really helpful when it comes to sorting, filing, and cataloguing your images.
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I find that the facilities in all modern computer operating systems do an adequate job for my needs.

I currently have more than 200,000 images filed using long, descriptive filenames and folder trees. This does a good job of letting me find a shot quickly. Not only is it free; it means I can store my images across various disk formats without any special effort, so I can use any machine as a server in a pinch.
 
sphexx said:
Well really that’s the sort of point I was making about the specific camera groups on Flickr!
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I take the point you are making,
but as I don't play those games, it's of no use to me.
 
I used to have all of my licensing data added in Photo Mechanic as that is my ingest tool, especially for boxing - then when I saw how much data I had actually given away in the exif the photos were hastily deleted from flickr. I tend to only use Flickr now when I want to upload something here. I was also concerned using an iPhone that location data is also given away.
 
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I’ve always left mine on Flickr ,I do believe it’s an uploading option .. and if it’s helpful as a reference point for basic adjustments to help a newbie so be it ..
and BTW it also helps search engines such as pixsy to weed out image thieves which in the past has proved quiet profitable more than paying for ALL my equipment plus a holiday or two
 
the black fox said:
I’ve always left mine on Flickr ,I do believe it’s an uploading option .. and if it’s helpful as a reference point for basic adjustments to help a newbie so be it ..
and BTW it also helps search engines such as pixsy to weed out image thieves which in the past has proved quiet profitable more than paying for ALL my equipment plus a holiday or two
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Since you can search for camera etc on Flickr and they publish a list of “most used” I guess EXIF is necessary for that.
 
Cobra said:
OK lets find out ... Poll added
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Sometimes but not often and only for interest or to see if a setting could be the cause of a problem in a beginner's shot.
 
I still look - I understand that conditions change and that there are so many variables - but when I see something different I tend to look to see what settings were used. I wonder if we all have our own preset starting points though.
 
Tulipone said:
I still look - I understand that conditions change and that there are so many variables - but when I see something different I tend to look to see what settings were used. I wonder if we all have our own preset starting points though.
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I have a preset starting point. Of the three variables, the EI is set at 80 (I use FP4 film) and the aperture set at f/16. The shutter speed is then set according to the light.

If using a digital camera, it's auto everything with a manual lens so the EXIF always says it was shot at f/0.0. I never look at the data though, only the resulting image.
 
I like to see the basics as part of my learning curve, the thread in motorsports where the photographer kindly lists hi camera/lens/ss/aperture most helpful .
 
When considering a new camera or lens, I do like to search sample images in Flickr to give me a rough idea of what they can produce. Does anyone know if it's the exif data or if it's the tags that Flickr uses for search results? I think it may be a the tags, but would be handy to know.

EDIT: just done some testing and it does appear to be the tags that dictate search results.
 
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