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don't you just hate them.

We went to an indoor play centre the other day and at lunch went to order some food and was told we could only choose from half the menu as there was only 1 chef in. What this meant was that all the all day breakfast items were a no go because according to the young jobsworth at the till - they take too long to make.

On observing the menu it appeared that i could therefor get an oatcake with bacon but I couldn't have a bacon sandwich. The conversation went something like this:

Me: So I can have a bacon and cheese oatcake, but I can't have a bacon sandwhich

Jobsworth: No, because, it takes longer too cook a bacon sandwich

Me: How's that?

Jobsworth: It just takes a longer time

Me: how does it take longer to butter two slices of bread and put bacon inside it than to put that same bacon into an oatcake, add grated cheese and grill the oatcake?

Jobsworth: well, the breakfast items take longer

Me: So I can have an oatcake with cheese, bacon, sausage, beans, tomatoes and salad but I can't have a bacon sandwhich because it takes longer than all of that? Are you baking the bread yourself or something

Jobsworth: Do you want a bacon sandwhich?

Me: Yes.

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Our local soft play is owned by someone who is obsessed with signs. No photography, among others. The crazy thing ius he also says that for health and saftey reasons food cannot be bought in. Yet you can buy sandwiches, jacket spuds, pizza, chicken dippers, cake, crisps etc... Now I dont mind not being allowed to eat as he wants to sell his food, but to hid behind H&S????
 
Not quite the same, but whilst in the Canada earlier this year,we called at a cafe just outside St Johns. The place was completely empty apart from an elderly couple. We dutifully waited at the sign saying "Please wait here to be seated". A waitress approached and I asked her for a table for two. "Oh, sorry" says she, we can't let you have a table as a coach might arrive soon". After asking for clarification of this astounding statement I asked "Are you saying you can't serve us at all?". "That's correct" she replied, "if a coach comes, we wouldn't be able to serve them all".

I pondered her logic for the rest of the day.
 
I try not to get too mad at jobsworths, as I have come to realise it's not really them that's doing it, it's the managers who will just turf them out of a job if they don't adhere to "the policy". The thing is, everyone's trying their hardest to cling to a job these days so I'd be willing to bet most are just playing by the rules and know what they are saying is idiotic.

I have to do loads of objectionable things in my job, all of which basically boil down to lying to customers; I absolutely loathe it as I am a very honest person but if I didn't do it I simply wouldn't have a job. I'd like to think that most people have the common sense to pretty much realise that, whenever you pay someone else to do something for you, you are in effect agreeing for them to diddle you - but it's still kinda sad that this is what makes the world run.
 
joescrivens said:
don't you just hate them.

We went to an indoor play centre the other day and at lunch went to order some food and was told we could only choose from half the menu as there was only 1 chef in. What this meant was that all the all day breakfast items were a no go because according to the young jobsworth at the till - they take too long to make.

On observing the menu it appeared that i could therefor get an oatcake with bacon but I couldn't have a bacon sandwich. The conversation went something like this:

Me: So I can have a bacon and cheese oatcake, but I can't have a bacon sandwhich

Jobsworth: No, because, it takes longer too cook a bacon sandwich

Me: How's that?

Jobsworth: It just takes a longer time

Me: how does it take longer to butter two slices of bread and put bacon inside it than to put that same bacon into an oatcake, add grated cheese and grill the oatcake?

Jobsworth: well, the breakfast items take longer

Me: So I can have an oatcake with cheese, bacon, sausage, beans, tomatoes and salad but I can't have a bacon sandwhich because it takes longer than all of that? Are you baking the bread yourself or something

Jobsworth: Do you want a bacon sandwhich?

Me: Yes.

:bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk::bonk:
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:lol::lol::lol: so what we all want to know is Joe, did you get your sandwich???
 
This one still annoys me when I think about it:

I was driving through town on a Sunday afternoon, when I noticed a mate that I hadn't seen for years, he pointed out of his car window, to a large, EMPTY car park. I followed him into it, parked up and jumped into his car. we'd been chatting for about 5 minutes when a car park attendant came over and asked us to either pay (ticket machine) or move on.

So yes, I do hate jobsworths.
 
fatmarley said:
This one still annoys me when I think about it:

I was driving through town on a Sunday afternoon, when I noticed a mate that I hadn't seen for years, he pointed out of his car window, to a large, EMPTY car park. I followed him into it, parked up and jumped into his car. we'd been chatting for about 5 minutes when a car park attendant came over and asked us to either pay (ticket machine) or move on.

So yes, I do hate jobsworths.
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can't see a problem myself - you're in a pay and display car park - you pay and display , why should he let you park for free ?
 
big soft moose said:
can't see a problem myself - you're in a pay and display car park - you pay and display , why should he let you park for free ?
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I don't see the problem either, why not park up in a side road or arrange to meet elsewhere?
 
big soft moose said:
can't see a problem myself - you're in a pay and display car park - you pay and display , why should he let you park for free ?
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:bang:

The person didn't own the car park. We didn't leave the cars and go shopping. The car park was empty. The person was a jobsworth.
 
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faddius said:
I don't see the problem either, why not park up in a side road or arrange to meet elsewhere?
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:bang:


The person didn't own the car park. We didn't leave the cars and go shopping. The car park was empty. The person was a jobsworth.
 
fatmarley said:
:bang:

The person didn't own the car park. We didn't leave the cars and go shopping. The car park was empty. The person was a jobsworth.
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Still private property. Private property you're meant to pay for the right to access and use, regardless of how busy it is, or if you use it for its intended use. The assistant is just looking after the interests if his employers, like any employee is expected to do.

If I go to a hotel when its quiet, I wouldn't get far walking into a room to hold a meeting without paying, I'm sure the desk staff will move me on or call the police. They won't care if I say "but you dont own the hotel, the hotel is empty and I don't plan on sleeping here overnight".
 
The persons job was to make sure you paid and displayed, and how is he supposed to know how long you'll be there for

Whether the carpark is empty is irrelevant , its a pay and display carpark, if you want to park you pay, if you don't want to pay you don't park simple

Try sitting in a pub without buying a drink , then arguing that it doesnt matter because they arent doing much trade - I pretty much guarantee the publican won't accept that argument.

Someone who does their job properly but pees you off because you didnt get away with breaking the rules isnt necessarily a jobsworth
 
But if you are stopped with the handbrake on and ignition off, you are essentially parked. The person is employed by the owners of said car park to make sure people pay to park on it. The person was doing his job. :shrug:
 
big soft moose said:
The persons job was to make sure you paid and displayed, and how is he supposed to know how long you'll be there for
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Wrong. The persons job is to put a ticket on your car if you leave the car park without paying.
 
big soft moose said:
Someone who does their job properly but pees you off because you didnt get away with breaking the rules isnt necessarily a jobsworth
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I think this sums it up.

They're there to ensure everyone in the car park follows the rules.
 
fatmarley said:
Wrong. The persons job is to put a ticket on your car if you leave the car park without paying.
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I'm with everyone else. You and your mate are making use of the spaces so you should pay. Your car was unattended after all. There is no rule that says you don't have to pay if you don't physically leave the car park.
 
fatmarley said:
This one still annoys me when I think about it:

I was driving through town on a Sunday afternoon, when I noticed a mate that I hadn't seen for years, he pointed out of his car window, to a large, EMPTY car park. I followed him into it, parked up and jumped into his car. we'd been chatting for about 5 minutes when a car park attendant came over and asked us to either pay (ticket machine) or move on.

So yes, I do hate jobsworths.
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That wasn't a jobs worth. You deserved that.
 
trencheel303 said:
I try not to get too mad at jobsworths, as I have come to realise it's not really them that's doing it, it's the managers who will just turf them out of a job if they don't adhere to "the policy". The thing is, everyone's trying their hardest to cling to a job these days so I'd be willing to bet most are just playing by the rules and know what they are saying is idiotic.
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Not really.

In my case someone was trying to tell me that it took longer to make a sandwich that an oatcake. It doesn't take a genius to work out what she was saying was wrong. If she said they just weren't making bacon sarnies and those were the rules then what you wrote would have been correct. But this girl must have been entirely stupid to not see that what she was saying was complete carp.
 
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fatmarley said:
Wrong. The persons job is to put a ticket on your car if you leave the car park without paying.
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They must be pretty fast to catch you after you've left the car park! ;)
 
faddius said:
If I go to a hotel when its quiet, I wouldn't get far walking into a room to hold a meeting without paying, I'm sure the desk staff will move me on or call the police. They won't care if I say "but you dont own the hotel, the hotel is empty and I don't plan on sleeping here overnight".
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If I had waited a few hours, I could have parked in the car park for the whole night without paying. Not sure what a hotel has to do with the price of eggs.
 
It was a comparison.

And there has been no mention of eggs in this thread :shrug:
 
Following the story you explained, it's easier to compare the car park to a hotel due to shared similarities - staff, how busy it was, the fact you went there to meet a friend, being expected to pay to use the facilities which are owned - even if you don't use the facilities for their main purpose.

Comparing it to the price of eggs makes no sense.
 
faddius said:
Following the story you explained, it's easier to compare the car park to a hotel due to shared similarities - staff, how busy it was, the fact you went there to meet a friend, being expected to pay to use the facilities which are owned - even if you don't use the facilities for their main purpose.
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Have you ever heard the expression "comparing apples to oranges" Comparisons don't work because you are ALWAYS talking about two different things.

faddius said:
Comparing it to the price of eggs makes no sense.
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It's an expression. Look here.
 
It doesn't matter anyway. As far as I see it, you're complaining about a non point that was caused by your own doing. You can take it or leave it, it makes no odds to me - but I'm leaving it at that.
 
faddius said:
It doesn't matter anyway. As far as I see it, you're complaining about a non point that was caused by your own doing. You can take it or leave it, it makes no odds to me - but I'm leaving it at that.
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That person wasn't a robot or machine. They had a choice. If it were my choice and I was a car park attendant, I would leave people alone because I would have seen that the car park was empty and they were doing no harm. If they had left the car park I would have put a ticket on the car. If the car park was busy, I would have told them to move.

Sorry but to me and my mate it was a jobsworth. And i'm sure if I explained the story to any of my friends they would agree with me.
 
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I think you should look up the meaning of a jobsworth.

What you had was just someone actually doing their job. You were parked in a car park without a ticket - the fact you were talking to your mate and there were no other cars is irrelevant.
 
Yellowbelly said:
Not quite the same, but whilst in the Canada earlier this year,we called at a cafe just outside St Johns. The place was completely empty apart from an elderly couple. We dutifully waited at the sign saying "Please wait here to be seated". A waitress approached and I asked her for a table for two. "Oh, sorry" says she, we can't let you have a table as a coach might arrive soon". After asking for clarification of this astounding statement I asked "Are you saying you can't serve us at all?". "That's correct" she replied, "if a coach comes, we wouldn't be able to serve them all".

I pondered her logic for the rest of the day.
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I actually can see some logic, in some places roadside cafe's have contracts with the long distance coach operators that they will supply a meal for the passengers on a route operated by the company.

The cafe would probably not want to risk a full coach arriving (if one was expected around the time you were there), and not having adequate seating just to accommodate 2 travellers who would probably never be back versus a daily full cafe of passengers from the coach company.
 
neil_g said:
Eurgh can we all just agree that everyone except fatmarley thinks he's wrong?
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I've seen this type of thread over and over again on many different forums over the years. People love to prove people wrong but rarely stick up for people. It's easier to join in with the kicking than fight all the kickers (I won't say bullies because that's too strong a word).
Most people join in because they're sheep that follow the herd - and not always because they are right.

I've tried sticking up for people in the past but it gains you no fans, so I can see why people don't want to get involved.
 
fatmarley said:
That person wasn't a robot or machine. They had a choice. If it were my choice and I was a car park attendant, I would leave people alone because I would have seen that the car park was empty and they were doing no harm. If they had left the car park I would have put a ticket on the car. If the car park was busy, I would have told them to move.
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You say 'doing no harm' but you should have been paying and werent, regardless of how many other cars were there , why shouldnt you pay for parking, what makes you a special case ?

they had a choice all right, do their job properly or just screw off and ignore you - they chose the former, that doesnt make them a jobsworth
 
joescrivens said:
I think you should look up the meaning of a jobsworth.

What you had was just someone actually doing their job. You were parked in a car park without a ticket - the fact you were talking to your mate and there were no other cars is irrelevant.
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Hello Baaabera. Sorry thought you were a sheep.
 
its interesting how defensive you've got - it could be that no one else agrees with you because everyone is a sheep - but it could also be that, shock horror, just possibly you might not be correct :thinking:
 
I'll have to admit defeat because I want to play World Of Tanks and you don't get fined for parking without a ticket in that game, but you do get abused for camping.
 
fatmarley said:
I've seen this type of thread over and over again on many different forums over the years. People love to prove people wrong but rarely stick up for people. It's easier to join in with the kicking than fight all the kickers (I won't say bullies because that's too strong a word).
Most people join in because they're sheep that follow the herd - and not always because they are right.

I've tried sticking up for people in the past but it gains you no fans, so I can see why people don't want to get involved.
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To be honest we've all said our piece on your bit and it was starting to get a bit childish hence my comment.
 
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