JAWS .................. we need a better cage.

Jaws 1: diver :0 would have been more satisfying.
 
Bloody hell, :eek: shark skin is pretty rough, it could have scuffed & ruined his wet suit! :D
 
Takes a plonker to get in the water with one of natures top predators and think they are out of reach....Man / Women so stupid at times and presumptuous! to think they have any control over much of "What happens next"
 
LASTOLITE said:
Takes a plonker to get in the water with one of natures top predators and think they are out of reach....Man / Women so stupid at times and presumptuous! to think they have any control over much of "What happens next"
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Yes, I never quite managed to suss out the attraction of that activity. It's a sort of Russian roulette with sharks.
 
LASTOLITE said:
Takes a plonker to get in the water with one of natures top predators and think they are out of reach....Man / Women so stupid at times and presumptuous! to think they have any control over much of "What happens next"
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arclight said:
Yes, I never quite managed to suss out the attraction of that activity. It's a sort of Russian roulette with sharks.
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I've not done it but I can see the attraction. Probably safer than surfing and diving ( statement based on no evidence whatsoever) and not much different than going on safari in open, or relatively open top jeeps.

You take your chances....doesn't necessarily make you a plonker....I may be one though!
 
akr said:
I've not done it but I can see the attraction. Probably safer than surfing and diving ( statement based on no evidence whatsoever) and not much different than going on safari in open, or relatively open top jeeps.

You take your chances....doesn't necessarily make you a plonker....I may be one though!
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Would you gamble your home and life savings on a game in Vegas? Same thing, The house always wins......just replace the house with large predator.
 
LASTOLITE said:
The house always wins......
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Eventually but players also have winning streaks. Pretty sure more people get killed by cars in the UK in one week than get killed by sharks in a year and even fewer people in cages get nommed!
 
LASTOLITE said:
Would you gamble your home and life savings on a game in Vegas? Same thing, The house always wins......just replace the house with large predator.
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Odd analogy but no I wouldn't bet the house gambling (though I have been to Vegas). How many people have died in these type of cages shark diving?

If you want to live as risk free a life as possible, that's fine, but plenty of things carry increased but still minimal risk. As I said you take your chances. If I followed your logic I'd not have a done a lot of things I look back fondly on now.

It's not for you, I get that, does not mean people who do it have lost the plot.
 
LASTOLITE said:
Would you gamble your home and life savings on a game in Vegas? Same thing, The house always wins......just replace the house with large predator.
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Unless you're playing slots, in which case they are set by Federal law for an 88% return over the course of a 24hr period.
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I'll be a plonker then...

I cage dived about 6 years ago in Australia only it wasn't a surface cage it was a cage that was lowered to around 25-28 metres. It was an amazing experience and one i'd love to do again if it wasn't so expensive. Why did I do it, because I wanted to and I could. Would I bet my home in Vegas? No, because gambling isn't my thing.

The company in the link aren't a company I would use. They were actively feeding a shark to bring it closer to the cage, this didn't happen with the company I was diving with. It's pure idiocy to feed the sharks in that manner. They deserve everything they get if the guy sues. Cage diving doesn't need to be dangerous, I felt safe the whole time although I must admit I was a bit nervous going below the water line to sleep after watching Jaws on board. The sharks I saw weren't aggressive, they would just swim past the cage and ignore us. The only time we saw one act aggressive was zooming after a seal at the time. I can't understand how the shark got in the cage like that, they must have had an overly wide viewing slot. The cage I was in was pretty solid looking and didn't have any gaps big enough for a massive shark to get in.

I'm sure i'll be blasted for having cage dived but it was something I loved doing and have really fond memories of the trip which was done over 4 days. 6 years on and i'm still in touch with the other people on board. I've dived with many species of sharks over the years and never once felt threatened.
 
BBR said:
Frankly, I would be too much of a scaredy cat to consider it!!
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I am with you!!

Too much emphasis on the word Plonker here....This post quoted sums it up a little simpler, and a little less confrontational as some seem sensitive.

For me the modern way of thinking that "I AM in control of this 14 / 24 / 28 foot killing machine" is absurd to me.

But then I am reluctant to own a dog that has the ability to turn on me or a family member when ever it feels it needs to assert itself. I respect animals and feel they are best left alone and viewed from a distance...;)
 
And still no sympathy for the poor Great White with the lacerated gill cover.
Bleeding all over the ocean like that.

I do hope there was a nurse shark close by, to take care of it :thumbs:

:D
 
Cobra said:
And still no sympathy for the poor Great White with the lacerated gill cover.
Bleeding all over the ocean like that.

I do hope there was a nurse shark close by, to take care of it (y)

:D
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AFAIK, blood in the water stimulates feeding behaviour in sharks, so the poor thing was probably ripped to pieces by its mates...(n)
 
Yes blood stimulates them but it was probably fine as far as other sharks are concerned. Most great whites will have bite marks on them from other sharks although most will be caused during mating or accidental during a feeding frenzy. It doesn't look like a particularly large shark as far as I remember though so maybe bigger sharks may have picked on it. I watched the video once and no plans to watch it again so not 100% sure on the size. The link below is a story about a small great white that was rescued off the coast of South Australia after getting a packing strap stuck around his body. This happened 2 months after I was diving out there. He was pretty weak at the time the strap was cut from him and the other sharks hadn't attacked him even though there were some massive sharks in the area at the time. I can't find a link to the update of the story but around 2 years later he actually showed up again with the scar caused by the strap still visible but healed. He has since been back at least once since then.

Infection could be a risk to any injury, stress too. Hopefully the shark in the video was fine but Strappy's story shows that they can heal up pretty well.

http://www.grindtv.com/random/dramatic-footage-of-great-white-shark-rescue-released-in-australia/
 
Just saw a still from the video. It is actually a big shark so not sure why I was thinking it was a smallish one.
 
I just watched it again.
I bet the inside of that wetsuit was a mess. :D
 
viv1969 said:
I just watched it again.
I bet the inside of that wetsuit was a mess. :D
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I was diving in Egypt and a guy came down with a sudden case of diarrhoea as he climbed up the boat ladder. Poor guy got some amount of stick from everyone when he was allowed back 2 days later. I was so glad that I was already back on the boat.
 
Julie1979 said:
I was diving in Egypt and a guy came down with a sudden case of diarrhoea as he climbed up the boat ladder. Poor guy got some amount of stick from everyone when he was allowed back 2 days later. I was so glad that I was already back on the boat.
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Please tell me it wasn't a live-aboard, and they didn't dangle him off the back of the boat for 2 days! :eek:
 
Julie1979 said:
Yes blood stimulates them but it was probably fine as far as other sharks are concerned. Most great whites will have bite marks on them from other sharks although most will be caused during mating or accidental during a feeding frenzy...
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I know, I was being a bit facetious :). I've watched quite a few dissections at the KZN Sharks Board and I've seen the healed wounds and scars on the animals bodies. I expect it was okay, but maybe not...

I'm planning to do a shark cage dive in the Cape with my daughter in January. It'll have to be a surface dive though, because I'm not scuba qualified. That's something I've always wanted to do but just never got round to. Pity.



 
MartynK said:
I know, I was being a bit facetious :). I've watched quite a few dissections at the KZN Sharks Board and I've seen the healed wounds and scars on the animals bodies. I expect it was okay, but maybe not...

I'm planning to do a shark cage dive in the Cape with my daughter in January. It'll have to be a surface dive though, because I'm not scuba qualified. That's something I've always wanted to do but just never got round to. Pity.
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Good luck with that one :eek:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfIpEFD6GWo
 
Julie1979 said:
I'll be a plonker then...

I cage dived about 6 years ago in Australia only it wasn't a surface cage it was a cage that was lowered to around 25-28 metres. It was an amazing experience and one i'd love to do again if it wasn't so expensive. Why did I do it, because I wanted to and I could. Would I bet my home in Vegas? No, because gambling isn't my thing.

The company in the link aren't a company I would use. They were actively feeding a shark to bring it closer to the cage, this didn't happen with the company I was diving with. It's pure idiocy to feed the sharks in that manner. They deserve everything they get if the guy sues. Cage diving doesn't need to be dangerous, I felt safe the whole time although I must admit I was a bit nervous going below the water line to sleep after watching Jaws on board. The sharks I saw weren't aggressive, they would just swim past the cage and ignore us. The only time we saw one act aggressive was zooming after a seal at the time. I can't understand how the shark got in the cage like that, they must have had an overly wide viewing slot. The cage I was in was pretty solid looking and didn't have any gaps big enough for a massive shark to get in.

I'm sure i'll be blasted for having cage dived but it was something I loved doing and have really fond memories of the trip which was done over 4 days. 6 years on and i'm still in touch with the other people on board. I've dived with many species of sharks over the years and never once felt threatened.
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Well said! I'm probably too scared to ever do it, but what you did sounds amazing. Sharks are wonderful creatures and they deserve our respect.
 
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