Ive never really liked Jeremy Clarkson ...

Laudrup said:
If you rely on The Sun for your arts reviews then maybe it's not the comedy for you. He's saying maybe BBC One will have Michael McIntyre Live At The Apollo talking about electrical appliances or repeats of Top Gear on Dave to amuse you.
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yeah erm right ... you did read the bit where i said it was an interview with him in the guardian

quote from the actual article

He says he now goes out of his way to make it clear how terrible some people think he is by using quotes on promotional material, such as "the worst comedian in Britain, as funny as bubonic plague" (the Sun), not as self-deprecation but genuinely to put people off.
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you need to get it through your head that just because someone finds stewart lee less ammusing than a case of genital herpes it doesnt mean that they are thick.... in fact in my opinion not being willing to waste valuable leisure time listening to unfunny self regarding drivel could be taken as a sign of intelligence

the same article give a quote from his book

Lee vowed he would eventually get rid of all the "jokes" (he is often accused of not having any anyway) "in favour of grinding repetition, embarrassing silences and passive-aggressive monotony
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one assumes that was his idea of a joke, but listening to his act , all i can say is that he has succeeded in his proffessed intention
 
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Laudrup said:
If you rely on The Sun for your arts reviews then maybe it's not the comedy for you. He's saying maybe BBC One will have Michael McIntyre Live At The Apollo talking about electrical appliances or repeats of Top Gear on Dave to amuse you.
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You do come across as a judgemental wazzock sometimes. :shrug:

Rather than just assuming everyone else is wrong, why not embrace diversity and allow for that fact that sometimes people have different opinions.

That goes for you too, Joe.
 
big soft moose said:
he quotes the sun review and many others like it in his PR as it deters those expecting jokes from coming to see him.
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"Lee frequently uses negative reviews on his posters in order to put off potential audience members who are unlikely to be fans of his comedy style."

He listens to guys like Derek Bailey and Evan Parker, and understands that you wouldn't inflict them on people with "closed ears". He's offering his product on the open market. I don't know what his refund policies are, but it's churlish of those who decide they're not interested to try and diminish the pleasure for those who enjoy his work. Gawdelpus, we'll all need our preferred sources of humour over the years to come.

Clarkson's following his lead. Here's Lee on Richard Hammond's 2006 accident: "I wish he had been decapitated and that his head had rolled off in front of his wife."
 
joescrivens said:
What's this got to do with me? I haven't said anything in this thread that anyone else hasn't said :shrug::shrug:
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just a general finger wag for you while i was wagging my finger. lots of 'Joe Scrivens has been Reported..' popping into my inbox this last couple of days, mostly for unnecessary stuff. ;)
 
photon said:
Here's Lee on Richard Hammond's 2006 accident: "I wish he had been decapitated and that his head had rolled off in front of his wife."
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and thats the real cutting edge of intellectual humour is it, I bet they were rolling in the aisles.

However i'm not trying to lessen laudrups enjoyment of it - i'm taking issue with his assuming that anyone who doesnt find such funny must be a thick top gear watching sun reader
 
big soft moose said:
and thats the real cutting edge of intellectual humour is it, I bet they were rolling in the aisles.

However i'm not trying to lessen laudrups enjoyment of it - i'm taking issue with his assuming that anyone who doesnt find such funny must be a thick top gear watching sun reader
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I agree with you - some of the Most intelligent people I know actually enjoy x factor. Sometimes is good not to have to think about what your entertainer is trying to do, but just enjoy it.

However, the judgemental types who look down on certain things are normally just trying to prove they are superior to everyone.
 
Ken Dodd said in An Audience With. "I don't mind alternative comics, as long as they don't start telling jokes". He must have been talking about Stuart Lee. :lol::lol::thumbs:
 
matty said:
just a general finger wag for you while i was wagging my finger. lots of 'Joe Scrivens has been Reported..' popping into my inbox this last couple of days, mostly for unnecessary stuff. ;)
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People eh? His posts are never offensive! Wrong, yes but never offensive!
 
joescrivens said:
I'm innocent guv!
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You're not Joe. You're really not. A lot of your posts recently are borderline trolling and it hasn't gone unnoticed :nono:
 
dekeyboy said:
Ken Dodd said in An Audience With. "I don't mind alternative comics, as long as they don't start telling jokes". He must have been talking about Stuart Lee. :lol::lol::thumbs:
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Not a lot of Ken Dodd fans in Lee's audience I'd be betting. He does do a good job tearing apart someone influenced by Dodd though if you search for Stewart Lee Joe Pasquale joke.
 
Laudrup said:
Not a lot of Ken Dodd fans in Lee's audience I'd be betting.
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You have to wonder how the likes of Lee, Boyle etc will stand the test of time. I'm pretty sure they won't be filling venues after 20 or 30 years the way Dodd and many performers of his generation still do....
 
Laudrup said:
Not a lot of Ken Dodd fans in Lee's audience I'd be betting. He does do a good job tearing apart someone influenced by Dodd though if you search for Stewart Lee Joe Pasquale joke.
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I wouldn't say that's a good job personally. Watched it and wished I hadn't. Wasted another 5 minutes I won't get back. He really isn't funny.
 
Grendel said:
You're not Joe. You're really not. A lot of your posts recently are borderline trolling and it hasn't gone unnoticed :nono:
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Borderline trolling? I debate with passion but I always backup my points with evidence or explanation.
 
As someone who has been debating on the opposing side to Joe, I have not had a problem with his posts. They normally add to the debate instead of 1 liners.
 
Can we not make this thread about me? If something I am doing needs to be discussed can the mods pm me about it.
 
we'll pm you tomorrow
 
joescrivens said:
Can we not make this thread about me? If something I am doing needs to be discussed can the mods pm me about it.
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Don't start sulking! :D
 
Ok appreciated. I'm away for the weekend on an ale trail, so won't be likely to read anything till Sunday.
 
Laudrup said:
It won't be easy to get over, but I'll take it one day at a time.
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Let me know how you get on with that, won't you.

Laudrup said:
If you rely on The Sun for your arts reviews then maybe it's not the comedy for you. He's saying maybe BBC One will have Michael McIntyre Live At The Apollo talking about electrical appliances or repeats of Top Gear on Dave to amuse you.
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Laudrup said:
Not a lot of Ken Dodd fans in Lee's audience I'd be betting. He does do a good job tearing apart someone influenced by Dodd though if you search for Stewart Lee Joe Pasquale joke.
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:thinking:
 
Blown WAYYYYYYYYYY out of proportion by the media.

Typical British media pick out small pieces of information and wrongly accuse someone of something.

If anyone watched the interview, you'll understand that he in fact was having a joke. At firs, he backed the strikes and then I believe he said something like " of course the BBC has to have an un-bias opinion, so take them... " .


The BBC have come out and shown this to everyone to prove it.


Any calls for Clarkson to be sacked are ludicrous.
 
It's strange - I came across Stewart Lee's late night comedy program relatively recently and was hooked pretty much straight away. The late night rambling monologues, whilst not unique are pretty scarce these days and a good antidote from the "assault on the senses" style of say Michael McIntyre and to a lesser extent John Bishop.

But the few reviews of Lee that I've now read seem to back up the love him/hate him reaction expressed here. I would agree that he appears self-satisfied but then assumed that was all part of his act.

I'd use the analogy that it's nice to sit down every now and then and listen to a 30 minute Pink Floyd track and put away the Now That's What I call Music 80.

Then again I like Clarkson too. :thinking:
 
Storm in a tea cup

Should he have said what he said - no.

Why - because we have to worry about offending people.

Should we worry about offending people - no

His whole thing about "being the BBC so we must have a balanced opinion" was a joke in itself.

He'd made a (quite obviously can't really be bothered) point about the strike so balanced it (JC style) with an equally stupid comment against it.

To his credit it was a tongue in cheek pop at the whole thing.

Folk need to lighten up.

These days people seem to almost choose to be offended.
 
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I only found out about this when i saw it in the paper, thousands phoned in the bbc to complain, i bet you it was all the strikers and not the normal people like us. The comic scetch in the Sun said it all with a red england strangling clarkson with the text "where has Britains sense of humor gone?"

What i don't agree with was that most of the people on strike in my town were all seen doing christmas shopping and not picketing outside their work. Seems to me like they just used it as a day off and didnt take it seriously.

dinners said:
Storm in a tea cup

Should he have said what he said - no.

Why - because we have to worry about offending people.

Should we worry about offending people - no

Folk need to lighten up.

These days people seem to almost choose to be offended.
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This is why political correctness is rife in this country because too many people are afraid of offending or complain that it may offend when in many cases it actually doesnt offend at all.
 
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Photon - I agree 100%.

People want (and should, to use your words ) be treated politely, fairly and honestly.

If you welcome honesty then ( regardless ) you should also accept his view - It's freedom of speech - honest and to the point - providing it's understood and not fluffed up to the point that it makes silly news.
 
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archamedes said:
This is why political correctness is rife in this country because too many people are afraid of offending or complain that it may offend when in many cases it actually doesnt offend at all.
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'He who screams the loudest wins'. These 6 words simply mean that whoever makes the biggest fuss wins; the PC Brigade, as the media has labelled them, know that if they scream and stomp the loudest they will drown out everyone else and only their voices will be heard.
Sadly the Political Correctness Road doesn't have many turning spaces and I fear that we've lost sight of Common Sense and have been blinded by the light of Political Correctness.
If people used Common Sense then we wouldn't need Political Correctness.

Anyhow, getting back to ol' JC I can take him or leave him. I fully understand his sense of humour, and his isn't as sick as mine can get.
What I did like him on though was a documentry on the Arnhem battle where his father-in-law won the Victoria Cross. He also did one on the 'Greatest Raid of All' which was pretty good too; although he was probably just reading his lines he came across in a decent manner.
 
photon said:
Why the heck not? I want to be treated politely, fairly and honestly, thank you very much.
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In that case we need to ban humour. There are only so many jokes you can do like "my dog has no nose, how does he smell?" sort of thing. Many jokes are at the expense of someone, race, religion, size, sex, intelligence etc... I thought little Britain and come fly with me were very funny and had a laugh at pretty much all types of people. Fawlty towers is one of the greatest comedies ever made, but that is not very PC although it is 35 years old!

IF anyone was genuinely insulted or offended by it they should really go out and get a life. I think it was just people jumping on the bandwagon.
 
cambsno said:
In that case we need to ban humour. There are only so many jokes you can do like "my dog has no nose, how does he smell?"
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My last dog couldn't smell, I find that offensive to his memory and I think you should apologize.


;)
 
cambsno said:
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IF anyone was genuinely insulted or offended by it they should really go out and get a life. I think it was just people jumping on the bandwagon.
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this

if clarkson had made a bald statement that the strikers ought to be shot then there'd be grounds for the strikers to get offended.

but if you read thre transcript it is clear that the butt of the joke is not those striking but those who wrote the bbc non bias policy - therefore only they have any actual grounds for offence

everyone else has either misinterpreted wehat was said or been offended by the media misinterpretation.
 
Well, if JC wanted to create reaction in what he said (and I firmly believe he does in almost everything he says publicly) he's certainly succeeded on here :clap:
 
barneyrubble said:
I wouldn't say that's a good job personally. Watched it and wished I hadn't. Wasted another 5 minutes I won't get back. He really isn't funny.
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You did well. I stood precisely 3:10 of the sanctimonious little ***** whining on before I closed the window.
 
He does this every time he has a new DVD or book out. He is probably just relaxing watching the pennies coming in while everyone else is mourning about what he said... This is why i think the guy is a genius! :)
 
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