Ive never really liked Jeremy Clarkson ...

Flash In The Pan said:
Another one high up in the "punch in the face" list for me :naughty:
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But why though? He is a comic who tells jokes. By wanting to punch him in the face you are validating him as he knows you don't like him and therefore he wants to offend you. A comic's perogative.
 
As an aside, my phone auto corrects Boyle to Hitler :)
 
Laudrup said:
You really need to watch to the end. He was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of Top Gear to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of Top Gear.
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I watched to the end.

I almost laughed at the 'he must be scottish' thing, and had it been a different setting I think I would have.

But, one line in 15 minutes?

It's bad my friend, whatever way you look at it.

imo of course :thumbs:
 
norters said:
But why though? He is a comic who tells jokes. By wanting to punch him in the face you are validating him as he knows you don't like him and therefore he wants to offend you. A comic's perogative.
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I didn't say I wanted to punch him for his comedy, I just want to punch him.

The fact that he is one of those Scots who feels the need to belittle Scotland as soon as the "make it" and move to London just makes me want to hit him harder :lol:
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I didn't say I wanted to punch him for his comedy, I just want to punch him.

The fact that he is one of those Scots who feels the need to belittle Scotland as soon as the "make it" and move to London just makes me want to hit him harder :lol:
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One of the clever ones... :)

Just a joke! I was made in Paisley my parents moved there because he got a job in a bomb factory or something.
 
Dale_d3100 said:
Gervais can write some very clever and funny stuff, but he himself isn't that funny

Ghost Town - great film
Invention of Lying - great film
Cemetery Junction (written by Gervais and merchant) - great film
Extras - funny, but it is the actors who are funny in it (written by Gervais)
Idiot Abroad - Karl is genius
The Office - total carp
The dwarf program he has written at the moment - total carp.

Stewart Lee? Any redeeming features?
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Watched that film last night. One of those rare films for me that I would have no problem watching twice. Great 70's pic on how life for many was like. Mine was more brutal but thats another story, but still so much of its context rang true. :)
 
tomah said:
I watched to the end.

I almost laughed at the 'he must be scottish' thing, and had it been a different setting I think I would have.

But, one line in 15 minutes?

It's bad my friend, whatever way you look at it.

imo of course :thumbs:
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Almost laughed? You did better than me then...

I found the whole delivery to be infantile at best. Not offensive in the slightest, and certainly not as cutting as (in my opinion) a proper comedian would have been. Just pathetic... Half of what he said wouldn't even have been mildly amusing if it had been overheard in a school playground... Satirical? Nope... Not unless 'satire' is synonymous with 'crap'...

But maybe that's just me... Is Stewart Lee what passes for comedy these days? I'd hope not...

But I do get the feeling that Clarkson (not to mention the rest of the Top Gear team) enjoy making a parody of themselves from time to time, so fair play to them!
 
Laudrup said:
You really need to watch to the end. He was using an exaggerated form of the rhetoric and the implied values of Top Gear to satirise the rhetoric and the implied values of Top Gear.
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Generally, comedy, any comedy, that needs to be explained fails. I can't comment on this guy as I don't think I've ever seen him.
 
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dod said:
Generally, comedy, any comedy, that needs to be explained fails. I can't comment on this guy as I don't think I've ever seen him.
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Exactly. You get it or you don't. If you don't just turn it off but please don't complain.
 
dod said:
Generally, comedy, any comedy, if it needs to be explained it fails.
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Not always, if the comedy is a play on words, some people can get it a long time before others. I went and saw Milton Jones in Reading recently and some of his jokes took a while for some of the audience to get, he said one joke twice before people finally got it. It was a very funny joke, but you had to listen.

I remember the last time I saw my father, he said he was just going to pop upstairs....

a few minutes later <pop> :(

I think my delivery sucks ;)
 
I haven't got my reading eyes in. lol

Sorry :)
 
dod said:
Generally, comedy, any comedy, that needs to be explained fails. I can't comment on this guy as I don't think I've ever seen him.
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As Lee himself said, the jokes are there, but you might need to raise your game.
 
Laudrup said:
As Lee himself said, the jokes are there, but you might need to raise your game.
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That sort of attitude suggests I would probably dislike him. Any comedian with the arrogance to suggest

a) he's brighter than his audience or
b) I need to make the effort to understand his sense of humour instead of him work harder to appeal to mine

probably isn't worth listening to.

I could be wrong :shrug:
 
dod said:
That sort of attitude suggests I would probably dislike him. Any comedian with the arrogance to suggest

a) he's brighter than his audience or
b) I need to make the effort to understand his sense of humour instead of him work harder to appeal to mine

probably isn't worth listening to.

I could be wrong :shrug:
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IMO, you're not. I've watched Stewart Lee and he just strikes me as a smug, supercilious update of Ben Elton's act from the 80s, minus the references to Thatcher and the miners.
 
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. I've never heard of him before today (that I can think of) and I hope I don't hear much of him in the future.

If he's a 'famous' British comedian, then Britain hasn't got talent, it's got issues!
 
If you like intelligent comedy it's worth watching Stewart Lee. If you laugh like a drain at Clarkson comparing a Mercedes to a frog or take Al Murray the Pub Landlord literally then he probably isn't the comedian for you. His 41st Best Stand Up is on YouTube, well worth a watch. Gervais stand up is on there too and much better than his new show.
 
Laudrup said:
If you like intelligent comedy it's worth watching Stewart Lee. If you laugh like a drain at Clarkson comparing a Mercedes to a frog or take Al Murray the Pub Landlord literally then he probably isn't the comedian for you. His 41st Best Stand Up is on YouTube, well worth a watch. Gervais stand up is on there too and much better than his new show.
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Well I just got around to watching him. Intelligent comedy? Nothing intelligent there as far as I can tell, just sneering at others. The jokes are week and pathetic and, to be honest, it's an insult to intelligent people.

Al IMHO of course
 
Laudrup said:
If you like intelligent comedy it's worth watching Stewart Lee. If you laugh like a drain at Clarkson comparing a Mercedes to a frog or take Al Murray the Pub Landlord literally then he probably isn't the comedian for you. His 41st Best Stand Up is on YouTube, well worth a watch. Gervais stand up is on there too and much better than his new show.
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I'm beginning to think that you actually are Stewart Lee :suspect:
 
Strappy said:
I'm beginning to think that you actually are Stewart Lee :suspect:
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Alas not. I won't ask if you're Jeremy Clarkson. Lee has been a stand up for 20 years, so I doubt you or I could offer him much advice on his act. He isn't for everyone, certainly not for the minds who screech at Top Gear etc but he's a good comedian.
 
Laudrup said:
If you like intelligent comedy it's worth watching Stewart Lee. If you laugh like a drain at Clarkson comparing a Mercedes to a frog or take Al Murray the Pub Landlord literally then he probably isn't the comedian for you. His 41st Best Stand Up is on YouTube, well worth a watch. Gervais stand up is on there too and much better than his new show.
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Lee doesn't even scratch at the surface of intelligent comedy writing from what I can see.
 
Doug Stanhope is a far better stand up than Lee. Pretty much on another planet. A similar British stand up to Lee who is far funnier is Marcus Bridgestock.

My problem with Lee is I get the idea that he thinks of himself as the shining light of liberal intelligent comedy whereas in reality he just thinks he is far more intelligent than he actually is.
 
Laudrup said:
Alas not. I won't ask if you're Jeremy Clarkson. Lee has been a stand up for 20 years, so I doubt you or I could offer him much advice on his act. He isn't for everyone, certainly not for the minds who screech at Top Gear etc but he's a good comedian.
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I enjoyed Lee's work with Herring in Fist of Fun and This Morning with Richard not Judy, I don't enjoy his current stand-up routine. You can post as many times as you like about how intelligent you find his observations or how anyone who doesn't like him must be a hooting gibbon but I suggest the best thing you can do is get over it. :shrug:
 
isnt this the guy who puts his worst reviews on his publicity material (such as stewart lee... less ammusing than the bubonic plague) in order to keep away those who are 'expecting jokes and ammusement'

what silly gibbons the mainstream audience are to expect comedy to be amusing - obviously the real intelectual would rather get their kicks from watching a smug self satisfied berk indulge in verbal self gratification
 
DemiLion said:
Lee doesn't even scratch at the surface of intelligent comedy writing from what I can see.
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...oddly enough you are not the first well educated, worldly and intelligent person I know to say that...in fact several in this thread already fit and I know many many more..... ;)
 
big soft moose said:
isnt this the guy who puts his worst reviews on his publicity material (such as stewart lee... less ammusing than the bubonic plague) in order to keep away those who are 'expecting jokes and ammusement'

what silly gibbons the mainstream audience are to expect comedy to be amusing - obviously the real intelectual would rather get their kicks from watching a smug self satisfied berk indulge in verbal self gratification
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I guess if you buy and read The Sun then you get the journalism and reviews you deserve?
 
Strappy said:
I enjoyed Lee's work with Herring in Fist of Fun and This Morning with Richard not Judy, I don't enjoy his current stand-up routine. You can post as many times as you like about how intelligent you find his observations or how anyone who doesn't like him must be a hooting gibbon but I suggest the best thing you can do is get over it. :shrug:
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It won't be easy to get over, but I'll take it one day at a time.
 
fabs said:
Okay okay okay we get it. Everyone who disagrees with you must be unintelligent Sun readers who love Top Gear. Can we move on now?
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Clarkson's apology was enough, so yes we can move on.
 
i can confirm that I am very intelligent and I found his humour and jokes to be ...........
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Rubbish!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

for once I agree with fabs!:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
 
I haven't read all the threads on this but for me it was taken out of all context, it was a flippent remark without any meaning. People calling for his head need to take a look at what else is happening in the world, I totally disagree with the public sector strikes and tend to look at the bigger picture with whats happened with our armed forces and the soldiers who have been killed or mamed, I bet they would be over the moon with the pensions and working conditions of our hard done by public sector strikers.
Clarkson has drummed up a bit of interest and I bet most of the 20 odd thousand people who have complained are employed by us the tax payers !!
 
joescrivens said:
i can confirm that I am very intelligent and I found his humour and jokes to be ...........
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Rubbish!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

for once I agree with fabs!:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
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you mean there was actually a joke in there somewhere ;)

I'm worried to find that I agree with both you and fabs....:nuts:
 
i just watched a few minutes of his political correctness routine. I struggle to believe he's making a career from comedy:D:D

Amazingly I'm in agreement too :eek:
 
Laudrup said:
I guess if you buy and read The Sun then you get the journalism and reviews you deserve?
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also just to note that although it was indeed the Sun which noted that he was less ammusing than the bubonic plague (unusually accurate reporting on their part) i was actually referring to an interview with him in the guardian (with big words and everyfink) where he said that he quotes the sun review and many others like it in his PR as it deters those expecting jokes from coming to see him.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Interesting, I've watch one episode, the one where another dwarf exposes himself in a Police station and Warwick Davis ends up in a bin and in all honesty I thought it was some of the poorest "comedy" I've ever seen and, judging by the reviews I've read, I'm not alone...
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I just saw the scene. You never mentioned that he was sick on his penis, even funnier :lol::lol:
 
big soft moose said:
also just to note that although it was indeed the Sun which noted that he was less ammusing than the bubonic plague (unusually accurate reporting on their part) i was actually referring to an interview with him in the guardian (with big words and everyfink) where he said that he quotes the sun review and many others like it in his PR as it deters those expecting jokes from coming to see him.
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He does say on his homepage:

"The most exciting comedian in the country, bar none." The Times ****
"The greatest comedian in the country has done it again." GQ
"Thrilling" Metro *****
"About as funny as bubonic plague" The Sun
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If you rely on The Sun for your arts reviews then maybe it's not the comedy for you. He's saying maybe BBC One will have Michael McIntyre Live At The Apollo talking about electrical appliances or repeats of Top Gear on Dave to amuse you.
 
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