It's been a while - contemplating coming back to a FF camera

[Dave Canon]

I feel the same about people pictures and I mostly want the whole head in the DoF not just one eye but if limited DoF at longer than a tight head an shoulders shot is wanted then a wide aperture will be needed plus some people just like subject separation, smooth out of focus backgrounds and bokeh balls. Put any number of these things together, distance, separation, a desire for smooth rendering and bokeh balls and f1.4 and even f1.2 on FF are what does the job.

On APS-C f1.8 equates to f2.7 on FF for DoF which isn't particularly wide these days. f1.2 on FF can be pretty extreme.

If it helps at all I did a comparison at 40mm f1.2-2.8 at various distances.

Differences at f1.2, 1.4, 1.7, 2, 2.8.

Just out of interest. The difference between f1.2 and f1.4 for DoF and bokeh has cropped up a couple of times so I thought I'd post a series of pictures. Note that I'm ignoring light gathering here and just looking at depth of field and bokeh. I looked at bokeh and depth of field years ago and...

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I'm not a great user of extreme aperture but I do like this one, 40mm f1.2.

Other than that. I do have a 85mm f1.8 picture printed and framed.

Yes good shot. Thanks for showing an example. As a matter of fact when I use my FF Canon 5D4 in a studio, I do sometimes use my 70-200mm f2.8 and step back to take a longer shot. With the longer focal length it is possible to get the subject all in focus. I am still not sure what I will use my 35mm F1.8 for but probably night photography.

Dave

 

[PVO_Dave]

Thanks everyone for their input, as predicted I’ve gone over budget already

Decided on a Canon 6D Mk II - found one newly listed on eBay this morning with a tiny shutter count in mint condition for a reasonable price and pulled the trigger.

Now onto some lens shopping! Main reason for me not plumping for mirrorless was the lens options on the FF Canon DSLR bodies (without adaptors etc.. lens prices were a touch on the keen side for the mirrorless canons!), if I get back into this in a big way again I can revisit my options in a year or two

 

[ancient_mariner]

Thanks everyone for their input, as predicted I’ve gone over budget already

Decided on a Canon 6D Mk II - found one newly listed on eBay this morning with a tiny shutter count in mint condition for a reasonable price and pulled the trigger.

Now onto some lens shopping! Main reason for me not plumping for mirrorless was the lens options on the FF Canon DSLR bodies (without adaptors etc.. lens prices were a touch on the keen side for the mirrorless canons!), if I get back into this in a big way again I can revisit my options in a year or two

Enjoy your new camera Dave - looking forward to seeing some pictures soon.

 

[LCPete]

Thanks everyone for their input, as predicted I’ve gone over budget already

Decided on a Canon 6D Mk II - found one newly listed on eBay this morning with a tiny shutter count in mint condition for a reasonable price and pulled the trigger.

Now onto some lens shopping! Main reason for me not plumping for mirrorless was the lens options on the FF Canon DSLR bodies (without adaptors etc.. lens prices were a touch on the keen side for the mirrorless canons!), if I get back into this in a big way again I can revisit my options in a year or two

Good choice have fun with the new camera
the image quality is great and the movable screen is really handy, you can zoom in and manually focus for things like macro