Is there life "out there"?

Do a YouTube search for 'the most important image ever taken'. Amazing video. Would link to it but I'm using my phone to post.....
 
I ran SETI on my pc for years and never found one alien!

That said, they are out there but have their phones switched off atmo.

Eric Von D is a pillock.
 
It does seem as if we've more likely to meet aliens than God. In fact if you think about religions inherent fear of gods wrath you can get a pretty good idea of how scared we would all be if we did meet aliens. Its suggested this is really the reason we haven't been officially informed of their visits. But the evidence is out their in the details of administration and eye witness accounts, separately they could be false, but together they are undeniably really strong evidence that aliens exist and have crashed a few times.

Hopefully we'll find some bacteria living on Mars or a moon of Jupiter soon enough and that can open the doors to our realisation and soften the shock factor blow a little.
 
Forbiddenbiker said:
It does seem as if we've more likely to meet aliens than God. In fact if you think about religions inherent fear of gods wrath you can get a pretty good idea of how scared we would all be if we did meet aliens. Its suggested this is really the reason we haven't been officially informed of their visits. But the evidence is out their in the details of administration and eye witness accounts, separately they could be false, but together they are undeniably really strong evidence that aliens exist and have crashed a few times.

Hopefully we'll find some bacteria living on Mars or a moon of Jupiter soon enough and that can open the doors to our realisation and soften the shock factor blow a little.
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I believe in SETI, I don't believe in god.
 
They were on about the existing of life bearing planets on the horizon about the venus transit. They mentioned some light dip from a further star to prove a planet was passing in front so they've found loads more planets they thought existed. The astronomer chappy made a good point about how expecting to receive a communication from a distant life form was like two cowboys firing guns at each other and expecting the bullets to meet in mid air.

What evidence is there that aliens exist from non-nutter sources?
 
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srichards said:
What evidence is there that aliens exist from non-nutter sources?
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No, but yes .... we have a trail of administration matching eye witness accounts, but everything they lead to is VERY well hidden. Its the fact that that are hidden, these things accounted for in the trail, that is the answer to the question.

Theres just so much information on it, he Russian interpretations of UFOs alone is fascinating, they didn't bother fooling themselves ...then there are the more common stories, which are just a pepple amongst many other events, typical stuff like. A UFO crash is reported as a weather balloon. But according to the administration alone it took 3 trucks of fully armed soldiers to remove it. ...or on another eye witness occurrence, 'several high ranking unknown people turned up to take pieces of the weather balloon away in brief cases handcuffed to their wrist'....makes you ponder hey.

Certainly seems to be strong evidence for a cover up, and that's compelling evidence in itself I think.
 
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Forbiddenbiker said:
No, but yes .... we have a trail of administration matching eye witness accounts, but everything they lead to is VERY well hidden. Its the fact that that are hidden, these things accounted for in the trail, that is the answer to the question.

Theres just so much information on it, he Russian interpretations of UFOs alone is fascinating, they didn't bother fooling themselves ...then there are the more common stories, which are just a pepple amongst many other events, typical stuff like. A UFO crash is reported as a weather balloon. But according to the administration alone it took 3 trucks of fully armed soldiers to remove it. ...or on another eye witness occurrence, 'several high ranking unknown people turned up to take pieces of the weather balloon away in brief cases handcuffed to their wrist'....makes you ponder hey.

Certainly seems to be strong evidence for a cover up, and that's compelling evidence in itself I think.
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I think part of the problem is that a whole industry has developed around the theme built on conspiracy paranoia, gullibility and a desire to make money. It almost makes sensible discussion or analysis impossible. I remember reading that a sizable percentage of Americans believe they've been abducted at some point in their life. Why ET would travel light years to come here, then pass their time probing the ring pieces of the most obese population on earth is destined to remain a mystery!
 
Ricardodaforce said:
I remember reading that a sizable percentage of Americans believe they've been abducted at some point in their life.
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That accounts for Joescrivens then :thumbs: :suspect:
 
ZoneV said:
Do we exist? I'm not so sure.
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Youre the only living thing in the universe. We're all just figments of your imagination.

The thing is that radio waves from Steve Wrights Radio Show have transmitted far enough out there now to put off all intelligent life from ever coming near this place.
 
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Ricardo I was going to post this in your Space thread, though I did a search and found this thread instead. :)

Do you listen to Coast to Coast AM at all?

There's some really fascinating shows on there. If you get the time to listen to this, check it out:

[YOUTUBE]rmMrSxAnDak[/YOUTUBE]
 
From the depths of the dataverse, an orbiting thread once again reaches its perigee... :)
 
The real problem with contacting alien life is the problem of time. The Earth has been there for about 4.5 billion years. Intelligent life has existed only a few tens of thousands of years. We will probably be gone soon (blown ourselves up, wiped out by meteor strike etc).
So although intelligent life may pop up fairly frequently in the galaxy, it is unlikely to coincide with other intelligent life
 
Unijak said:
Ricardo I was going to post this in your Space thread, though I did a search and found this thread instead. :)

Do you listen to Coast to Coast AM at all?

There's some really fascinating shows on there. If you get the time to listen to this, check it out:
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Really strange that you asked that because I was trying to find podcasts of it earlier! Seems that the podcasts are for paying subscribers only, and I am limiting my subscribing to podcasts to Mysterious Universe.
 
SPOOKY!! Yea the podcasts on their website require you to pay, but the Youtube ones are free. :D
 
I find all this space business to be a riddle wrapped up in a mystery inside a puzzle. I suspect that man has not even begun to scratch the surface of what there is to know.
Science has us believe that matter cannot simply come from nothing. So where did everything in space come from before the big bang. Space cannot have started empty then a few bits and pieces appeared out of nowhere (unless, of course, our understanding of science is flawed).
 
arclight said:
I find all this space business to be a riddle wrapped up in a mystery inside a puzzle. I suspect that man has not even begun to scratch the surface of what there is to know.
Science has us believe that matter cannot simply come from nothing. So where did everything in space come from before the big bang. Space cannot have started empty then a few bits and pieces appeared out of nowhere (unless, of course, our understanding of science is flawed).
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There is a fundamental flaw in what you've written. Space (our universe) wasn't there before the big bang. It is expanding as a result of the big bang. It's also expanding faster than the speed of light.
 
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That's gotta beg the question, in that case, what was there before?

:D
 
Ricardodaforce said:
A research team recently released some results that add to the multiverse theory.
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I'll go through the link later, thanks :thumbs:

Ricardodaforce said:
That's a pretty big question. Maybe nothing.
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But for now, that's the thing I have a problem with,
trying to imagine "nothing"
And if there was nothing how can it beget something?
or indeed initialise a "big bang"
(I'm not saying there wasn't one BTW ;) )

 
Cobra said:
I'll go through the link later, thanks :thumbs:


But for now, that's the thing I have a problem with,
trying to imagine "nothing"
And if there was nothing how can it beget something?
or indeed initialise a "big bang"
(I'm not saying there wasn't one BTW ;) )
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We aren't capable of these concepts. We just cannot grasp what nothing is. We are made of atoms born in the death throes of stars, yet these atoms are almost all nothing.
We aren't capable of appreciating the vastness of space and immensity of time. The first Hubble Deep Field Image focused on a dark spot of "empty" space the size of a grain of sand held at arm's length. When processed this miniscule portion of the night sky revealed over 3000 galaxies, all of which contain literally billions of stars. It's brain blowing.
 
London Headshots said:
The theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss said "the universe is massive, and rare things happen all the time-including life".

That sums it up for me.
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Yup your not alone - basing your life philosophy on a unproven (No empirical evidence) Theory

I need something much more solid than that myself
 
Ricardodaforce said:
There is a fundamental flaw in what you've written. Space (our universe) wasn't there before the big bang. It is expanding as a result of the big bang. It's also expanding faster than the speed of light.
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OK, but forget about our universe. Think of anything in space, no matter how far away (farther than we can ever know). How did the planets and stars etc. get there in the first place. As I said matter cannot be created out of nothing so how did space come to be occupied by them?

For a "big bang" to occur there had to be something to explode ...how did it get there ?
BTW, I am not looking for a religious or mystical explanation such as a god, because if there is a god - who or what made him/her/it ? No answer to such questions exist.
 
Cobra said:
I'll go through the link later, thanks :thumbs:


But for now, that's the thing I have a problem with,
trying to imagine "nothing"
And if there was nothing how can it beget something?
or indeed initialise a "big bang"
(I'm not saying there wasn't one BTW ;) )
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But for now, that's the thing I have a problem with,
trying to imagine "nothing"
And if there was nothing how can it beget something?
or indeed initialise a "big bang"

And in your experience how many explosions or "big bangs" result in a things becoming ordered in such a way as we find them today.

Its a puzzling one - that's for sure...
 
Cobra said:
I'll go through the link later, thanks :thumbs:


But for now, that's the thing I have a problem with,
trying to imagine "nothing"
And if there was nothing how can it beget something?
or indeed initialise a "big bang"
(I'm not saying there wasn't one BTW ;) )
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That is precisely my thinking although I did not put it exactly like that.
How does something come from nothing ? If there was never nothing what is the explanation for that.
 
Cobra said:
That's gotta beg the question, in that case, what was there before?

:D
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The really crazy thing (although it's all pretty crazy tbh) is that there was no "before". Space and time are intrinsically linked and neither existed before the BB.

It's ok though, it's not just us - nobody understands it yet. :D
 
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And in your experience how many explosions or "big bangs" result in a things becoming ordered in such a way as we find them today.
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The jury is still out on that one, but I am guessing, if you are referring to the 3rd rock from the sun, just the one, but as space in infinite,
I guess we will never know in our life times.

Ricardodaforce said:
We aren't capable of these concepts. We just cannot grasp what nothing is. .
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ZoneV said:
It's ok though, it's not just us - nobody understands it yet. :D
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LASTOLITE said:
Its a puzzling one - that's for sure...
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You know what?
I am quite disappointed in you TP'ers,
I thought that the answer to
"everything" could be found here :D
 
Earth is rather unusual in having a very large moon which has taken a lot of hits from meteors over millions of years. This has kept conditions here relatively stable with no major 'resets' for a very long time.
Given it's still taken the planet about a billion years to evolve a species aware of space - and with a desire to explore it - I would not be surprising if the great majority of other earthlike planets have very primitive life by comparison.

Those that do progress to the stage where intellectual ability becomes more important than reproducing, have a rather tricky stage to get through where they can dominate the world they live on but are in great danger of destroying themselves at the same time.
 
Cobra said:
You know what?
I am quite disappointed in you TP'ers,
I thought that the answer to
"everything" could be found here :D
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Rome wasn't built in a day - the thread hasn't reached 80 posts yet. :D
 
ZoneV said:
Rome wasn't built in a day - the thread hasn't reached 80 posts yet. :D
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Well it has now so come on .............................
:D
 
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