Is there a way of testing for softness?

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I'm still not 100% sure my lens is sharp enough for my liking.
 
newspaper at different apperture, then 100% crops should tell you.

also post some then people can give you their view
 
I'll try and get some uploaded
 
The main thing to do is eliminate all chance of camera movement by using a tripod and remote release or self timer. If you're photographing newspaper make sure it's lined up squarely with the camera. You can also use a brick wall where the texture of the bricks and lines of mortar show good detail. Focus manually so you can get it spot on, and take a few shots at different apertures. Again make sure the camera is square with the wall

Set up everything very carefully or the test will be pretty meaningless.
 
Right i'll try that after work tonight :D

cheers lads!
 
F2.8
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F5
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F7.1
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Or should i try again?
 
I don't see a great deal wrong there, assuming these are unsharpened images. The only questionable result is wide open at f2.8, but when you look closely, it's acceptably sharp at bottom right but way soft at top left which I suspect is down to everything not being lined up exactly square, which is difficult anyway, and the very narrow DOF at f2.8 is unforgiving of errors in lining up.

As you'd expect, things improve as you stop down and DOF increases.

Another quick test you can try wide open at f2.8 is to photograph your keyboard from a low angle, but just manually focus on one letter which should be the only sharp one if all is well. Again use a tripod and release, but you don't have to worry about squaring things up and this method ensures the image is sharp at the point where you focus.

I'd do that last test to satisfy yourself, but I honestly doubt much is wrong. ;)
 
Ah in that case i'm a crap photographer :P
I just feel i seem to have camera shake even at high shutter speeds.
I really need to get over my fear of tripods lol

this was taken at 70mm on the sigma 24-70mm That normal?
 
LOL. Seriously - getting sharp pics is mostly down to common sense and good technique in hand holding or use a tripod. I always use a tripod where it's practical to do so.

At 70mm the minimum safe hand holding speed would be 1/70 of a second, but people's abilities vary from one to another and it's always safer to go faster anyway if you can. :)
 
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this was taken at 70mm on the sigma 24-70mm That normal?

Appears to be "normal"
The review I read states that this lens is not useable a t 70mm/2.8
"The Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX DG Lens is sharpest at the wide end of its focal length range. At 24/28mm, the 24-70 is very sharp in the center at f/3.2. However, performance gets progressively worse as the focal length is increased. To me, 70mm f/2.8 is not usable on this lens"
From http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-24-70mm-F-2.8-EX-DG-Lens-Review.aspx

Bob
 
There you go - what Bob said.

It's not uncommon for lenses to be soft wide open, and even the very best lenses whilst more usable wide open, benefit from being stopped down a little. Don't bin the lens unless it's really important to able to operate at f2.8 - which it is for me.

You get what you pay for with lenses - expensive game! ;)
 
I think reviews fall into two distinct categories....consumer reviews found on site like Amazon and Ebay and "professional" reviews found on photography sites.

The former are written by well meaning amateurs who have just paid a lot of money for something, found that it's better than their previous version, and hence say the usual good things (in general)
The "professional" reviews tend to tell it like it is...real pro's and con's stuff. There are about 6 or 7 mainstream ones and it's not too often that they'll disagree.

For your lens, the constant f/2.8 is a purely mechanical description and does not factor in whether it can be used (acceptably) through the whole range.

I have a 50/1.2 lens that is wonderful except when used between 1 and 1.5 metres at f/1.8-f/2.8...then it has a marked focus shift that inhibits its useage....a well documented problem. I was aware of the issue before I bought it and so there's no disappointment on my part.

The moral is read, read some more and then try (if possible) before buying.

Bob
 
TBH i'm quite happy with the lens and when i take photos i tend to move it off the 24 and 70mm marks cause i've read about it being soft at 24mm
I'll keep plugging at it i tihnk!
 
I don't see a great deal wrong there, assuming these are unsharpened images. ;)

Shouldn't you sharpen the images before assessing them? I find that the detail is sometimes there but has to be coaxed out?
 
Shouldn't you sharpen the images before assessing them? I find that the detail is sometimes there but has to be coaxed out?

I think it's preferable to to see the image straight from the camera when assessing lens performance and assess whether the image should then sharpen acceptably. Clearly, all vecsri's shots will sharpen nicely with the exception of the 2.8 shot, but that shot obviously isn't lined up squarely anyway and the lens is probably better than that shot would have us believe.
 
I had a softness issue with my first Sigma 24-70 f/2.5 EX DG macro, there are some posts on it, in the end I sent it back to warehouse express & received a replacement two days later!
The replacement was much better, but still slightly soft.
Hope that helps?

Spence

If you live near me you can always pop down & try it with my Sigma?
 
I live in lancs :( Thanks for the offer thought bud!
I don't tihnk i can send it back as i've had it a while lol. I tihnk its ok tbh.
 
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