Is she allowed to do this?....

[Cobra]

A few of you do seem to have missed the point,
Whether or not T's daughter and friends broke the bridge,
is largely irrelevant, to the discussion.

A woman was up "close and personal" with a camera phone.
Now, I just wonder how many of you guys, with young teenage daughters,
would have taken the same stance, / view point
or indeed taken the thread off on a tangent,
about the "bloody kids of today",
if it had been a guy taking the pictures of their young teenage daughter?
Food for thought?

 

[Dave *]

A few of you do seem to have missed the point,
Whether or not T's daughter and friends broke the bridge,
is largely irrelevant, to the discussion.

A woman was up "close and personal" with a camera phone.
Now, I just wonder how many of you guys, with young teenage daughters,
would have taken the same stance, / view point
or indeed taken the thread off on a tangent,
about the "bloody kids of today",
if it had been a guy taking the pictures of their young teenage daughter?
Food for thought?

If the teenage daughter came home and said a strange photographer was hiding in the bushes and trying to photograph them, I might go down and try and get more information by confronting the person.

This case isn't like that, the person was filming/photographing them due to a incident of either antisocial or bad behaviour by a group of teenagers, with the aim of calling the police.

It might be annoying to the parent, but the point I was trying to make is the fact that an experienced photographer should realise taking photos in public is not unlawful.

I would be more worried that the photographer did capture evidence of wrongdoing and be expecting a knock on the door.

 

[Cg_Girl]

I give up I really do... So judgemental

 

[On the Huh]

A parents worry is that of their child's safety Dave! Nothing else!

 

[Dave *]

A parents worry is that of their child's safety Dave! Nothing else!

I'm separating the 2 things though, a parent can be upset because of the incident, that's understandable. I'm not trying to pass comment or judgement on the daughter, or even the actions or lack of actions that lead to the incident.

I'm commenting solely on the the unfortunate world we now seem to live in where even photographers are under the misapprehension that photography in public is unlawful or wrong in some way.

 

[Cobra]

If the teenage daughter came home and said a strange photographer was hiding in the bushes and trying to photograph them, I might go down and try and get more information by confronting the person.

This case isn't like that, the person was filming/photographing them due to a incident of either antisocial or bad behaviour by a group of teenagers, with the aim of calling the police.

It might be annoying to the parent, but the point I was trying to make is the fact that an experienced photographer should realise taking photos in public is not unlawful.

I would be more worried that the photographer did capture evidence of wrongdoing and be expecting a knock on the door.

Well from the opening post, it seems that she had not photographed
any "evidence" it seems to be that the bridge had a slat or two
already broken due to "rot"
No its not illegal to take pictures in a public place, but if someone shoved a camera
in my kids face, I'd be having words.

Not all teenagers are the devils spawn and should be cast to the fiery depths of hell.
Some are actually quite pleasant polite and "normal"

So yes I can see how an adult
(especially if the kids have respect for their parents / elders)
could intimidate them.

 

[Tigger.ufo]

Yes she is actually allowed to do this.

So did the police actually attend?

I am just guessing that this lady has taken the pictures to frighten the kids and has not actually called the police.

Perhaps you could have a word with your daughter and get her to go somewhere else with her friends as (regardless of what you think) they are being a nuisance.

I am sorry but I don't buy the "they are only kids having fun bit" if they are affecting others to this extent.

 

[Cg_Girl]

I'm separating the 2 things though, a parent can be upset because of the incident, that's understandable. I'm not trying to pass comment or judgement on the daughter, or even the actions or lack of actions that lead to the incident.

I'm commenting solely on the the unfortunate world we now seem to live in where even photographers are under the misapprehension that photography in public is unlawful or wrong in some way.

Dave I simply asked a question!.I'm not an experienced photographer, not necessarily a long standing member (less than a year) either, I have loads too learn and as much as I was aware candid was ok, the situation was slightly different!.. I came here to verify that is all, to be met with people judging is upsetting and your comment slightly unfair in the fact we come to these places to learn not be ridiculed for not knowing the correct answer

 

[Dave *]

Well from the opening post, it seems that she had not photographed
any "evidence" it seems to be that the bridge had a slat or two
already broken due to "rot"
No its not illegal to take pictures in a public place, but if someone shoved a camera
in my kids face, I'd be having words.

Not all teenagers are the devils spawn and should be cast to the fiery depths of hell.
Some are actually quite pleasant polite and "normal"

So yes I can see how an adult
(especially if the kids have respect for their parents / elders)
could intimidate them.

I would agree, my kids have now left their teens behind (well almost, the youngest will be a teenager for another 3 months, and neither have been anything but polite and reasonably well mannered in my experience. My son is now a police officer, so obviously didn't do a great deal wrong in his teenage years, and the same goes for most of their friends. I know the majority of teens are decent people who show respect to others.

I would doubt however that any gang of teens is going to be all that intimidated by an old woman even with a camera, but that is actually outside my angle of comment.

I'm not passing any comment on the actions of the teens, or who was right or wrong at the actual incident, I'm more concerned that a photographer with an active ongoing interest in photography (shown by being a heavy user of the forums) would need to ask "can someone take photos in a public place"?

Dave I simply asked a question!.I'm not an experienced photographer, not necessarily a long standing member (less than a year) either, I have loads too learn and as much as I was aware candid was ok, the situation was slightly different!.. I came here to verify that is all, to be met with people judging is upsetting and your comment slightly unfair in the fact we come to these places to learn not be ridiculed for not knowing the correct answer

Perhaps it's slightly judgemental, but you have over 3000 posts, haven't you ever noticed any threads detailing candids/street photography, over zealous security or people being accosted for taking photographs in public? There have been literally hundreds over the last year.

But to avoid this turning into a slanging match, I'll shut up now.

 

[Cobra]

I am just guessing that this lady has taken the pictures to frighten the kids .

At least one other person can see how an adult can be intimidating
to a 14 year old.

 

[On the Huh]

Heather, LRPS...You may well be right, and you normally come up with reasonable answers, opinions etc on here But, it is possible that the person taking the photos is some sort of nutty cat woman or summit!

My point is...It's not always the kids,,,There's plenty of daft adults out there too!

 

[Cg_Girl]

I think it's already been stated tenfold my reason for asking and I won't repeat myself..forgive me for not knowing everything

 

[Cg_Girl]

Heather, LRPS...You may well be right, and you normally come up with reasonable answers, opinions etc on here But, it is possible that the person taking the photos is some sort of nutty cat woman or summit!

My point is...It's not always the kids,,,There's plenty of daft adults out there too!

Exactly! And as stated other adults were present with NO issue...
My daughter did try and explain to the lady why she may have misunderstood and thought they'd broken the bridge..

 

[Cobra]

I would doubt however that any gang of teens is going to be all that intimidated by an old woman even with a camera, but that is actually outside my angle of comment.

See we don't actually know how "old" or otherwise this woman was
she may have been 30 with a black belt in martial arts :shrug:
(She'd scare the hell outta me )

I'm more concerned that a photographer with an active ongoing interest in photography (shown by being a heavy user of the forums you have over 3000 posts, ) would need to ask "can someone take photos in a public place"?

Well I have a few more posts than that, and I certainly don't know everything, and probably some stuff that I don't know, would be
considered quite basic by others.

OK so its part of "the job" that I mooch around all the forums,
reading snippets here and there,
but there are a lot of people with an interest in only one genre,
that rarely if ever wander outside their comfort zone.
So I think that comment is a little unfair TBH.

 

[Tigger.ufo]

Heather, LRPS...You may well be right, and you normally come up with reasonable answers, opinions etc on here But, it is possible that the person taking the photos is some sort of nutty cat woman or summit!

My point is...It's not always the kids,,,There's plenty of daft adults out there too!

...and just sometimes it is the kids who have driven "the nutty cat woman" to the end of her tether.

I can see from both points of view and CG Girl may have terrified the poor lady by turning up at her door.

P.S. I have a cat.........

 

[Cg_Girl]

...and just sometimes it is the kids who have driven "the nutty cat woman" to the end of her tether.

I can see from both points of view and CG Girl may have terrified the poor lady by turning up at her door.

P.S. I have a cat.........

Oi I'm not that scary!! lol

 

[Tigger.ufo]

At least one other person can see how an adult can be intimidating
to a 14 year old.

I can also see how a group of 14 year olds can be intimidating to an adult!

 

[Cobra]

TBH T has her answer and all we are doing is now discussing who is the most scary,
I think know the answer to that, its me

So on that note, its time for a group hug everyone,
and say good night