Is it the end of low cost Groceries and general goods?

Nod said:
GOOD butchers should have proper dry cured bacon but even the so-called dry cure stuff that comes pre-packed seems to sweat in the pan.
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I think they must soak the meat in a sodium solution, and possibly something like a soda. I know a Chef that did that, to make the meat more tender. But this kind of meat is hard to fry, it tends to just boil.
 
Not just soaked, injected. By the time good bacon is cooked, it's not much more expensive than the wet stuff that's sold as dry cured (in packs). Even if the cheap stuff is grilled, there's usually a slimy layer on it.
 
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I wish they would not put offers like this up, and just adjust the price accordingly. This encourages people to buy more than they really need.
Offer priced up in Wilko.
 
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Can anybody get through that much Beans? It would be wise to check, if the Air freshener is also on a multi buy offer. ;)

Offer priced up in Farmfoods.
 
Beans have a very long shelf life. We buy 3 or 4 multi-packs when they're on offer.

Thanks for the heads up about the Celebrations offer - we get them to keep the beggars with menaces happy at the end of the month so the cheaper the better!
 
A lot of shops more shops are now doing a deal, buy two for a much lesser amount then it costs per one item.
 
In the old days it would have been known as Racketeering, give them a reason and they'll make up the excuse to fit. Wait till the forthcoming HGV driver strike then you will see Kaos ! Start panic buying now !
 
Nod said:
Beans have a very long shelf life. We buy 3 or 4 multi-packs when they're on offer.

Thanks for the heads up about the Celebrations offer - we get them to keep the beggars with menaces happy at the end of the month so the cheaper the better!
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Morrisons did a pack of 4 x200gm Heinz BB for £2. for ages. Now it's three for £1.80..so 50p a tin to 60p. That's a 20% increase.

What's going to happen in the coming months, if not weeks is that there's going to be pack-shrinkage whilst the price stays the same. They hope we won't notice.:rolleyes: This will make up,at least in part, for the added costs due to increased driver pay, inflation and labour costs due to a shortage of labour too. In addition grocery prices are up by 1.7% over the past 4 weeks compared to the same period last year, Inflation for August 2020 to 2021 was 3%. The BoE target is 2%. It's going to get to 5% imo but the BoE estimates 4% by year end. In May they had it at a peak of 2.5% by year end. I think it's being underestimated not only the rate but the speed at which it will accelerate and continue.. Hard times ahead for many as prices in general increase and on top of that the inevitable interest rate rises. Not rise but rises. I'm not an economist but I don't see the surging inflation as a blip which is how it's being described with it forecast to fall back through 2022. The Eurozone hit 3% in August too.. a ten year high.

The date of the next announcement re interest rates will be Thursday November 4th. If rates do increase then the mortgage rate will increase which will cause people to spend less on other items including essentials. There's the home gas/electric rate cap to come off in April,too. Any hopes of an upturn for the hospitality industry will be dashed too not only because of the aforementioned but Covid cases are rising rapidly.. A quick check shows the level to be at 49,156 today with hospitalisations and deaths rising too. That 49,156 is the highest since July and we're heading into the 'flu season. A perfect storm ??
 
My latest favourite place for certain stuff is Rogers Wholesale.
I'll get canned stuff from them and anything else that doesn't really go off.
For instance got 48 cans of coconut cream for about £4.
 
BADGER.BRAD said:
In the old days it would have been known as Racketeering, give them a reason and they'll make up the excuse to fit. Wait till the forthcoming HGV driver strike then you will see Kaos ! Start panic buying now !
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Went out to do a shop and fill up on Diesel the other day, shops seemed back to normal, as was the petrol station. It was nice to just go gently around the aisles, without worry. It was a breeze, just driving into the petrol station. I just hope the situation stays like that. :)
 
JohnC6 said:
Morrisons did a pack of 4 x200gm Heinz BB for £2. for ages. Now it's three for £1.80..so 50p a tin to 60p. That's a 20% increase.

What's going to happen in the coming months, if not weeks is that there's going to be pack-shrinkage whilst the price stays the same. They hope we won't notice.:rolleyes: This will make up,at least in part, for the added costs due to increased driver pay, inflation and labour costs due to a shortage of labour too. In addition grocery prices are up by 1.7% over the past 4 weeks compared to the same period last year, Inflation for August 2020 to 2021 was 3%. The BoE target is 2%. It's going to get to 5% imo but the BoE estimates 4% by year end. In May they had it at a peak of 2.5% by year end. I think it's being underestimated not only the rate but the speed at which it will accelerate and continue.. Hard times ahead for many as prices in general increase and on top of that the inevitable interest rate rises. Not rise but rises. I'm not an economist but I don't see the surging inflation as a blip which is how it's being described with it forecast to fall back through 2022. The Eurozone hit 3% in August too.. a ten year high.

The date of the next announcement re interest rates will be Thursday November 4th. If rates do increase then the mortgage rate will increase which will cause people to spend less on other items including essentials. There's the home gas/electric rate cap to come off in April,too. Any hopes of an upturn for the hospitality industry will be dashed too not only because of the aforementioned but Covid cases are rising rapidly.. A quick check shows the level to be at 49,156 today with hospitalisations and deaths rising too. That 49,156 is the highest since July and we're heading into the 'flu season. A perfect storm ??
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What always baffle me when things go up, everyone's wages have to go up, in line with inflation. So surely it is just back to status quo.
 
robj20 said:
My latest favourite place for certain stuff is Rogers Wholesale.
I'll get canned stuff from them and anything else that doesn't really go off.
For instance got 48 cans of coconut cream for about £4.
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Some pretty good bargains from them, and I had been thinking to pay a visit. I think our nearest one was Manchester, so just a little out of the way for us.
 
jonbeeza said:
Some pretty good bargains from them, and I had been thinking to pay a visit. I think our nearest one was Manchester, so just a little out of the way for us.
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That's the one I go to just off the M60, not sure it's worth a special trip as the stuff is random so I go on my way from work maybe once a month.
One thing that was great was they were selling some airline for really cheap and the size meant it was perfect for my son so got about 50 meals of pasta for him for about £6.
They always have Coke, and loads of crisp.
 
robj20 said:
That's the one I go to just off the M60, not sure it's worth a special trip as the stuff is random so I go on my way from work maybe once a month.
One thing that was great was they were selling some airline for really cheap and the size meant it was perfect for my son so got about 50 meals of pasta for him for about £6.
They always have Coke, and loads of crisp.
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If it was nearer I would probably pay them a visit, so probably not practical to make a special journey over there. ;)
 
Not just food, clothing seemed to have crept up also. Clarks retail outlet for shoes, used to be the place to get a good pair of shoes, for a pretty reasonable price.
Could get a decent pair for about £30, the same pair is now about £75. Yes I know some people would pay a lot more, for their footwear.
 
jonbeeza said:
I just hope the situation stays like that.
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I also hope the situation stay like that but there at the moment is serious risk of a HGV Driver Strike the terrible conditions these people work under and have to live in was the driving force but the fact that they are going to let foreign companies run round doing as much work as they want on super cheap diesil has really angered both the drivers and the Haulage bosses. As seen by the fuel panic they really have the power to shut the country down.

jonbeeza said:
What always baffle me when things go up, everyone's wages have to go up, in line with inflation. So surely it is just back to status quo.
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My wages as a goverment employee have shrunk by 14% over the past number of years compared to inflation and I do really feel it. Luckily for me I have other sources of income but all that gets plowed into my retirement fund.
 
JohnC6 said:
What's going to happen in the coming months, if not weeks is that there's going to be pack-shrinkage whilst the price stays the same.
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That's been going on for years.
JohnC6 said:
and on top of that the inevitable interest rate rises.
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Finally something half decent for my savings (y)
 
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Cobra said:
That's been going on for years.

Finally something half decent for my savings (y)
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It has indeed but my point was that we now have the economic conditions to give it another push-along. The retailers are now incentivised to do it. I see it's actually called shrinkflation. I recall the 'outrage' :) by the Mars bar lovers and, I think, Quality Street or Roses...probably both here are 13 of the most famous and most popular. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/our-favourite-products-are-shrinking-198239/

I think only those who have fixed-term savings accounts will benefit rather than easy-access but a glimmer of hope at last.
 
jonbeeza said:
What always baffle me when things go up, everyone's wages have to go up, in line with inflation. So surely it is just back to status quo.
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Not just wages, though. It's complicated and this time the causes are global issues.
 
JohnC6 said:
but my point was that we now have the economic conditions to give it another push-along. The retailers are now incentivised to do it.
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I'm not sure they ever needed an incentive or excuse TBH
 
Maybe I should get the Xmas stuff in now, such as the Turkey etc and stick them in the freezer. As the Bank of England expects inflation to rise above 4% this winter, or so it is reported on the news this morning.
 
jonbeeza said:
Maybe I should get the Xmas stuff in now, such as the Turkey etc and stick them in the freezer. As the Bank of England expects inflation to rise above 4% this winter, or so it is reported on the news this morning.
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Got ours sorted last month. From here. Just all the fresh stuff to get from the market on the 24th when they're selling everything off cheap.

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jonbeeza said:
Not just food, clothing seemed to have crept up also. Clarks retail outlet for shoes, used to be the place to get a good pair of shoes, for a pretty reasonable price.
Could get a decent pair for about £30, the same pair is now about £75. Yes I know some people would pay a lot more, for their footwear.
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That is expensive, £40 is my limit, probably means I will be going barefoot from now on, or maybe make my own out of old car tyres. I never was much of a fashion icon.
 
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Anyone like Heinz soup, it is on offer at Asda at he moment. They are 95p per can, or get eight cans for a fiver. I have stocked the soup cupboard up, we should be OK we we ever get snowed in. lol
 
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Or Does anyone like Holland's meat pies? They are on roll back offer at the moment, again at Asda. Got a few for the fridge, and some for the freezer.
 
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Anyone like Heinz soup, it is on offer at Asda at he moment. They are 95p per can, or get eight cans for a fiver. I have stocked the soup cupboard up, we should be OK we we ever get snowed in. lol
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Or you could buy 5 quid's worth of veg and have gallons of healthy, crap free soup.
 
simon ess said:
Or you could buy 5 quid's worth of veg and have gallons of healthy, crap free soup.
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That’s what my better half does she makes homemade soup
We will have to be more careful now about wasting food and what we buy as we are on a fixed income
 
Dave * said:
Morrisons already have a “wonky veg” line, I would have thought others may as well?

Queue-it

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They have had those for a few years now. The veg is just as good, but not necessarily of stand size and shape. everything else about it is the same.
I have no idea why we expect fruit and veg to be all identical, it never grows that way. so only selecting standard sizes is extremely wasteful.

Fresh stuff in a farm shop is always how it comes. and they charge a premium.
 
Cheap shop for me today so thank you Ocado.
Cap had come off a bottle of Hook Norton Double Stout and got the whole crates worth of shopping refunded.
Most of it just needed wiping off, lot worse things it could have been spilt.
 
Cooking from scratch really does save a load of money. I have baked four large baguettes today and yesterday made a tomato based chicken stew, using skinless legs, carrots, onions and yellow peppers. The missus made a leek and chicken soup with the carcass meat and I have marinated the breast meat for a chicken vindaloo.
 
jonbeeza said:
Maybe I should get the Xmas stuff in now, such as the Turkey etc and stick them in the freezer. As the Bank of England expects inflation to rise above 4% this winter, or so it is reported on the news this morning.
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Well, there you go...I did say :D

I'd be getting more than a turkey,though as there's been a surge in the international price for sugar, wheat and vegetable oils. The Food Price Index is showing a 33% increase since this time last year. The Baltic ''dry' index ( ie for dry bulk goods only) represents average prices for shipping costs across the globe is now at a 10-year high in recent weeks. Food prices here have gone up 1.7% from Sept 3rd to October 3rd.(source Kantar ...a market research co.) who also said that visits to supermarkets were the lowest since last February. No,it doesn't mean more left on the shelves then, before some wag picks up on that :D

Nestlé, Procter & Gamble and Unilever have also said they will be forced to increase their prices because of the increased costs of delivery and between them they produce just about everything we buy. Suppliers give supermarkets about a three month warning of higher prices so things could be worse into the the start of 2022.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EH1G4EwljM
 
jonbeeza said:
Not just food, clothing seemed to have crept up also. Clarks retail outlet for shoes, used to be the place to get a good pair of shoes, for a pretty reasonable price.
Could get a decent pair for about £30, the same pair is now about £75. Yes I know some people would pay a lot more, for their footwear.
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Yes, they are good. We've been to Clarks Village,Street, Somerset.

Sadly.....dated October 15. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-58923413.amp

Warehouse workers at the shoe firm Clarks are striking against a decision to fire and rehire them on "worse pay and conditions" amid record losses.
 
simon ess said:
Or you could buy 5 quid's worth of veg and have gallons of healthy, crap free soup.
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Exactly...(y)

My wife makes all our soup. Leek. .Leek/potato.. Leek/chickpea....Cauliflower..Tomato....Celery and will add potato and even leek to it...mushroom/courgette with spring onion and scotch broth and quash. One of my favourites is (after we've had chicken so have chicken stock)..Chicken noodle soup which has bits of chopped/chicken ..red pepper/chopped spring onion and 1/2 to 3/4 teaspoon of 'Very Lazy' chopped red Chillis..in a jar. Try half tsp first..a touch more can be added if not 'hot' enough...small tin of Green Giant 'original sweet corn niblets..and, of course..Sharwoods medium egg noodles crushed and sprinkled in. For veggies, no need to have the chicken, either and my wife also adds 2 tea spoons of 'Marigold' Swiss Bouillon powdered vegetable stock. I'm hoping she can make French Onion soup..must remind her...:) With the 'smooth soups we stir in a very small amount of either single or double cream which really makes a difference. Stirred in circles the top looks very attractive too.

She tells me that ,for example,the celery/leek and potato soup costs 70p for 6 decent-sized servings. They can be frozen too. As a stand-by we do have a few tins of Baxters soups especially when they are down to 90p from £1.20.

It's time-consuming to making some soups so I wouldn't criticise those who buy tinned soup especially as the manufacturers have upped their game re nutrition, salt and sugar content so, with a nod to them here is a list of the top ten according to 'My-best' https://mybest-gb.uk/10319
 
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Terrywoodenpic said:
They have had those for a few years now. The veg is just as good, but not necessarily of stand size and shape. everything else about it is the same.
I have no idea why we expect fruit and veg to be all identical, it never grows that way. so only selecting standard sizes is extremely wasteful.

Fresh stuff in a farm shop is always how it comes. and they charge a premium.
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What really annoys me about that 'perfect-looking' veg was the waste. Criminal, especially considering far too many around the world don;'t have such a variety let alone the poorer people here who struggled to pay for the perfect-looking veg. When I were a lad...:) and me mum sent me to Mr Cleary's shop..miserable old b****r he was..lol..the veg had soil on it.
 
JohnC6 said:
Exactly...(y)

My wife makes all our soup. Leek. .Leek/potato.. Leek/chickpea....Cauliflower..Tomato....Celery and will add potato and even leek to it...mushroom/courgette with spring onion and scotch broth and quash. One of my favourites is (after we've had chicken so have chicken stock)..Chicken noodle soup which has bits of chopped/chicken ..red pepper/chopped spring onion and 1/2 to 3/4 teaspoon of 'Very Lazy' chopped red Chillis..in a jar. Try half tsp first..a touch more can be added if not 'hot' enough...small tin of Green Giant 'original sweet corn niblets..and, of course..Sharwoods medium egg noodles crushed and sprinkled in. For veggies, no need to have the chicken, either and my wife also adds 2 tea spoons of 'Marigold' Swiss Bouillon powdered vegetable stock. I'm hoping she can make French Onion soup..must remind her...:) With the 'smooth soups we stir in a very small amount of either single or double cream which really makes a difference. Stirred in circles the top looks very attractive too.

She tells me that ,for example,the celery/leek and potato soup costs 70p for 6 decent-sized servings. They can be frozen too. As a stand-by we do have a few tins of Baxters soups especially when they are down to 90p from £1.20.

It's time-consuming to making some soups so I wouldn't criticise those who buy tinned soup especially as the manufacturers have upped their game re nutrition, salt and sugar content so, with a nod to them here is a list of the top ten according to 'My-best' https://mybest-gb.uk/10319
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I did use to make our own Soup, but I could no longer be bothered. I only now tend to bulk buy when offers are on, and they are put away in the cupboard, and they are always there as a last resort quick meal. :-)
 
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Popped into COOP for a few bits. They have Coffee on offer at half price, their prices are usually higher, so not sure how much of a saving there is, if any.
 
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