Is everyone with a Huawei or ZTE happy to be under surveillance?

To be fair this has nothing to do with what is going on here with cheap android phones. Nothing at all.

No, but it would be unwise to ignore. It is like purging cockroaches but leaving rats in your house.
 
No, but it would be unwise to ignore. It is like purging cockroaches but leaving rats in your house.
I'm sorry but that analogy just doesn't work for me. The technology is inherently location based, both wired and wireless, and even when you use non electronic forms of communication it will include location; i.e. a letter. I think it is very different, now if you are saying and that campaign is suggesting that the data is going to actors that should not have access to that data without your knowledge, like foreign governments, criminal networks etc then you have a point. But as far I can see that is just not the case.
 
I'm sorry but that analogy just doesn't work for me. The technology is inherently location based, both wired and wireless, and even when you use non electronic forms of communication it will include location; i.e. a letter. I think it is very different, now if you are saying and that campaign is suggesting that the data is going to actors that should not have access to that data without your knowledge, like foreign governments, criminal networks etc then you have a point. But as far I can see that is just not the case.

I will just tell you that I wasn't pleased when I got emails from app developers pushing me to buy paid subscription version or asking for feedback every time I launched it.
I wasn't pleased when I got requests to upload photos of Aldi as soon as I enter the shop...

There is no valid reason at all for actors like google to log every move or every tap and app launch in such explicit detail.

There are however plenty of reasons for example for advertisers and insurance companies to get such data, which is certainly not in our best interests.
 
I will just tell you that I wasn't pleased when I got emails from app developers pushing me to buy paid subscription version or asking for feedback every time I launched it.
I wasn't pleased when I got requests to upload photos of Aldi as soon as I enter the shop...

There is no valid reason at all for actors like google to log every move or every tap and app launch in such explicit detail.

There are however plenty of reasons for example for advertisers and insurance companies to get such data, which is certainly not in our best interests.
I use iPhone, there is a reason for that. But either way on Android I did not use applications that requested unnecessary access rights. So often I responded and said no thanks upon installation.

And you can also switch of advertising tracking if it bothers you. It is already within your control.

But more interestingly those two points seem far removed from the petition you linked to. Neither seem relevant to what that petition is about to me.
 
I find it rather amusing when folks receive requests from apps/sites etc, asking them to buy subscriptions, and feel aggrieved.
When they availed themselves of the free versions, I bet that felt OK.
 
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Going at it by yourself, and even amazon has lots of £50 sim free smart phones, is a very risky business in my opinion. I value my friends and business contacts way too much to put them at risk.

Not a £50 quid phone, never bought one that cheap, and I have a sim only contract with EE that gives me unlimited talk time, which suits me fine
Don't download apps, when I do access the web it is via a browser, but as I said not very often
There are so many ways to hack your details etc, we are never going to be totally sure how much info is being stored about us
 
we are never going to be totally sure how much info is being stored about us
At wild guess, far more than we gave permission for!
 
At wild guess, far more than we gave permission for!

About five years ago I showed my kids that I could find their home address and other info using just their online forum names, they were stunned
 
About five years ago I showed my kids that I could find their home address and other info using just their online forum names, they were stunned
Indeed easily done ;)
 
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