Is everyone with a Huawei or ZTE happy to be under surveillance?

Trust me, they'd fail dismally to get anything either in my name, or relating to this address.
They'd get laughed at. :D ;)

Maybe they will think your name really is Bat-Frog?
 
Spoke by email to Google they said my 6P is secure locked and Huawei cannot access it at ll
 
Well expect much much more privacy violations..

http://www.zdnet.com/article/snoopers-charter-expansive-new-spying-powers-becomes-law/

I'm pretty sure my Motorola is full of worms. Yesterday I went to local ALDI for a few things and bingo the phone was bugging me to upload photos of the store!!! WTF, why?! I pretty much had raided all google settings and disable almost anything but it clearly had no effect.

Last week I was in the car using Google maps nav and listening to radio. During some add the app suggested I drive to location, just tap the button!

Seriously it just totally crossed me. I will be unlocking and putting CyanogenMOD pretty soon. It can't be any worse, could it?

More likely to be android location services and I think Google maps has the built in "review this location" feature. Changing to Cyanogen won't help you there as those features are still there. Unless you disable location services but you can probably stop that in your current OS.
 
You really feel this is the only way they get these numbers/email addresses
I stopped donating the tax thing on entry to places because of them wanting my phone number/email address
as well as home address, this was often followed by a rise in spam mails and calls, seems they no longer need
them, wonder why ;)
If people feel I am giving away info they can always ask to removed from my contact list
Of course it's not the only way they get the info. But people being flippant with their info certainly does not help. It's a snowball effect, your data might get 1 person hit with a scam, that may then snowball on to 10 others, and so on. Many of those resulting victims won't even know you. So your last comment is completely useless.
 
Well expect much much more privacy violations..

http://www.zdnet.com/article/snoopers-charter-expansive-new-spying-powers-becomes-law/



More likely to be android location services and I think Google maps has the built in "review this location" feature. Changing to Cyanogen won't help you there as those features are still there. Unless you disable location services but you can probably stop that in your current OS.

FWIW - Android user here and never had such obvious intrusions..........but then I have never turned location services ;)
 
Well expect much much more privacy violations..

http://www.zdnet.com/article/snoopers-charter-expansive-new-spying-powers-becomes-law/



More likely to be android location services and I think Google maps has the built in "review this location" feature. Changing to Cyanogen won't help you there as those features are still there. Unless you disable location services but you can probably stop that in your current OS.


I'm pretty sure he/she/it is on assorted CIA etc. watch lists. Not sure I'd sleep in the same place twice if I was it.
 
Lee Marvin,Hank Marvin or Marvin Medium ?

I was thinking of Marvin the paranoid android on/in HHGTTG, so long and thanks for all the fish said the dolphins as they left planet earth ;)
 
Does anyone know who makes Vodafone's branded mobile? I suspect they're made in China. I have one, it was cheap and not very good.

Possibly several makers, but likely ZTE, depending on which model you have.
 
Does anyone know who makes Vodafone's branded mobile? I suspect they're made in China. I have one, it was cheap and not very good.

I have the Vodafone Smart Ultra 6.
I know it's Chinese, no idea who makes it, but I have had it a year now and think it's brilliant.
I was a Samsung fan for a long time, but absolutely no complaints over this phone other than the camera, and well, I have cameras for that. :-)
 
I have the Vodafone Smart Ultra 6.
I know it's Chinese, no idea who makes it, but I have had it a year now and think it's brilliant.
I was a Samsung fan for a long time, but absolutely no complaints over this phone other than the camera, and well, I have cameras for that. :)

I *think* that's Alcatel based on a review I read a while back, but I've no idea really.
 
Looks like it's probably going to be a feature of many Chinese-made and branded phones: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11/20/more_androids_carry_phonehome_firmware/

I'd been quite seriously considering an 'off brand' Chinese android device through Amazon - wonder if this will squish that market a little?
It really doesn't surprise me, Ive mentioned it on here before and just got laughed away. People have no idea what their devices do, or what those 'free' tools to unlock and root their phone inject in the operating system, or what those free games do, or downloaded copy of operating system, etc. Good secure processes and procedures to check within companies cost money, it all does, these things don't come free and cheap unless they can be monitized in a different way.
 
It really doesn't surprise me, Ive mentioned it on here before and just got laughed away. People have no idea what their devices do, or what those 'free' tools to unlock and root their phone inject in the operating system, or what those free games do, or downloaded copy of operating system, etc. Good secure processes and procedures to check within companies cost money, it all does, these things don't come free and cheap unless they can be monitized in a different way.

It shouldn't surprise us, but a lot of us think of phones as being just a shrunken PC running an OS that's (relatively) under control and scrutiny, but that isn't the case.
 
It shouldn't surprise us, but a lot of us think of phones as being just a shrunken PC running an OS that's (relatively) under control and scrutiny, but that isn't the case.

Indeed, but also many don't think twice to unlock their device cheaply, or get 'free' software from somewhere, etc. Heck even people that should know better, remember those iOS developers who didn't download their copy of Xcode from Apple but from another location and got it injected with some malware that then spread through their apps.

I find it astonishing that people don't care, sure if it is just your own details fair enough, but guess what, they'll might be sharing my details as well. And do you honestly think the monetisation stops there. Heck it is an ideal scenario for a man in the middle attack and getting your bank and credit card details. If you install the root certificate and trust it before people get the device, then non of the layers above it will complain as it is an already trusted certificate. No SSL traffic will be save.

But hey, as long as it is cheap ;)
 
Another week and more phones infect at source or along the supply chain. Just remember with these super cheap models the margins are razor thin, people involved will want to make money somehow it's human nature.

http://theregister.co.uk/2016/12/14/persistent_ad_and_dialler_trojans_found_on_28_android_phones/
Well that's curious, twice in two days, my HTC one has said there is a voice mail message ( via the little symbol in the header bar)
When I went to recall it, I get the EE message that "There are no messages in your voice mail"
 
I really don't care who hacks my phone, I rarely use for anything but phone calls and the odd text message.
No bank account details on it and very rarely access the internet so not a lot for them to find, but hey if they
have nothing better to do :D
 
I rarely use for anything but phone calls and the odd text message.
Exactly, I never access my bank, paypal, credit card, or anything remotely to do with finance, or personal details, from my phone.
Its just another weak link in the chain. And doubles the chance of being hacked.
 
I really don't care who hacks my phone, I rarely use for anything but phone calls and the odd text message.
No bank account details on it and very rarely access the internet so not a lot for them to find, but hey if they
have nothing better to do :D

Exactly this too regarding banking.
Internet, well I use it for TP, and for some news browsing etc.
Not for online purchasing.
However, if I did have bank details on there, pretty much all they could do is pay me money, or screw up their fake ID's credit rating. :lol:
 
I'm pretty sure my Motorola is full of worms....


:ROFLMAO:

I dunno, its just the image it conjured up in my mind



It can't be any worse, could it?

umm......maybe


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"Please provide your email and mobile service provider so we can send you opt out details. "

Rriiight. o_O
 
I really don't care who hacks my phone, I rarely use for anything but phone calls and the odd text message.
No bank account details on it and very rarely access the internet so not a lot for them to find, but hey if they
have nothing better to do :D
Not that mine are on YOUR phone, but I do care that my friends done share my contact details with strangers. When I give "you" my contact details I expect you to keep them safe.

But if you aren't a smartphone user the why get one, it would be a compromise is size,battery life and visibility of the screen to name a few things.
 
Not that mine are on YOUR phone, but I do care that my friends done share my contact details with strangers. When I give "you" my contact details I expect you to keep them safe.

But if you aren't a smartphone user the why get one, it would be a compromise is size,battery life and visibility of the screen to name a few things.

Pretty much sure many of the people that have mine aren't even aware there is a problem, but l'm not paranoid about it.
I have a the smart phone because it has a decent camera, and no I don't post pictures from it, as said it's rarely connected to the web, battery
life is pretty good, only charge every few days and not one of the cheap ones mentioned, but how can we be sure not all phones are the same
 
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Pretty much sure many of the people that have mine aren't even aware there is a problem, but l'm not paranoid about it.
I have a the smart phone because it has a decent camera, and no I don't post pictures from it, as said it's rarely connected to the web, battery
life is pretty good, only charge every few days and not one of the cheap ones mentioned, but how can we be sure not all phones are the same
It is difficult to be certain that not all phones are the same I do agree. One thing is certain though that when you go for the bottom end cost wise and expect all the features something has to give. Everything cost money along the line, it isn't merely component cost, but where the components are sourced, how they are traced, where the operating system comes from, whether the people have the skills for it to develop/tailor it to that phone, and so on and on and on. I don't often say it, but likely if you do want one of those very cheap Chinese phones you are and you aren't technically skilled yourself, you are best to go with one of the mainstream carriers who put on their own build. Often it is limiting and reduces the amount of updates but at least it's been tested at a low level. So something like what Vodafone does with the smart ultra or whatever it is called and I think Ruth has got one.

Going at it by yourself, and even amazon has lots of £50 sim free smart phones, is a very risky business in my opinion. I value my friends and business contacts way too much to put them at risk.
 
Perhaps everyone should use aliases them selves, then no one would know who they or anyone else was.
 
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