iPhone 4 signal problems

ding76uk said:
No one has, they have pointed out the iphone 3g had similar signal issues



Again people are saying, no independent source has confirmed it yet have they?
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If somehow the touch of my palm can cause the phone to drop signal is a software issue then I need to take some anti virus.

Think Norton woukd work?
 
ding76uk said:
V Good point, but surely whatever the issue, Apple will come up with a solution very quickly and it will all be over.

Just the whole think of Apple make a mistake, and everyone jumps on this huge anti apple thing, and calling the phone crap bugs me. It happens to other brands too, there was a supposedly a similar thing with the Nexus one, and several other devices over the years.

It is still an amazing phone, and that will still remain even after the attenna issue has been sorted.
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I think the reason this is probably recording so much attention and the negativity is so high is because apple are famous for usability and making stuff that just works. You have a very high expectation from anything that comes from apple so it's unexpected to have such a fault from a company like apple and people will feel cheated because they bought it for exactly the experience of a company where things like this shouldn't happen.

Like buying a car, if you buy a citreon you might be expecting standard wheels and a slightly bumpy ride. But someone buying a merc would be very peed off if their wheels weren't alloys and the ride was anything but smooth.
 
Not really. Whatever the make of phone it should first and foremost be good at the primary functions of making and receiving calls, especially such an expensive phone.
 
apparently there were 1.4million units sold in teh first day. if every single one of these 1.4million units didnt work, I think there would be uproar. Its a design flaw that can be avoided by having a bumper case or silicon skin, one of the Zagg skins, or holding the phone slightly differently. ive been messing around with my 3g, i hold it with 3 fingers so cant really see how i can hold it 'wrong', thats just me though, other people with smaller hands may have to hold it dfferently. maybe thats why some people are having more of an issue than others
 
It's enough of a problem for me to take the HTC Desire route I'm afraid, Apple.
 
I'm as big a fan of Apple as you can get, but I'm certainly not going to defend the new handset as I lose signal completely when covering the point in question. I never once had signal issues with my 3G.
 
I don't think it's all the handsets, I can't make mine do this!

Me and a pal at work both got them delivered yesterday, this morning we both tested it, his dropped signal, and mine didn't, he even tried it on mine

Not sure if this helps, or just adds a further layer of confusion!

Dave.
 
Perhaps goes to show that it is indeed a fault, Dave?

Question is, at what point will Apple have to do something about it?
 
My 3G issues don't seem to be signal related, more the quality of the sound to the caller at the other end. Microphone issue?
 
this does not make me not want to get one, as the problem is the bottom left corner and i know how i held my ipod touch before it had a fight with the washing machine and it did not involving touching the bottom left corner.
also there seem to be far too many people throwing their "facts" into the discussion when they don't own the ipod and are just going off the news stories which are based on a limited number of iphones!
 
Ian W said:
Perhaps goes to show that it is indeed a fault, Dave?

Question is, at what point will Apple have to do something about it?
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I'm inclined to agree, lots of questions about what services you have enabled at the time too, mine permanently has WiFi and Bluetooth enabled but 3G off, be a worthwhile test for anyone suffering with the issue, the two antennas do different things (as I'm sure you know), so some theory about certain options making it work one way or the other (could be total crap) - worth a try Chris?

I'd imagine regardless of Apples reply (if he didn't put a 'nothing wrong' message out, there'd be even more of the haters out there), someone at Apple is working overtime right now trying to work this out!
 
alastairb said:
this does not make me not want to get one, as the problem is the bottom left corner and i know how i held my ipod touch before it had a fight with the washing machine and it did not involving touching the bottom left corner.
also there seem to be far too many people throwing their "facts" into the discussion when they don't own the ipod and are just going off the news stories which are based on a limited number of iphones!
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The story made CNN, bubo, new York times, the guardian and the rest, this is not limited to a handful, this is a design fault and affected a lot of phones.

I, didn't want to believe it as i want to get it, so i went to see it for myself.

In birmingham city centre, apple store. They had 8 on display, I tried 3, all had the same fault.
 
Interesting Dave. I did try 3G on and off. No change. In both cases wifi is on and Bluetooth off. So that makes me think that it's not all units

So is there any correlation to flash size? Mines 32gb.
 
im going to go and try that myself before i upgrade, as I say, i hold my phone differently as i have big hands, so for me its not likely to be an issue, and im fairly sure that im going to have a case as im a clumsy b****r..
 
Try with my exact setup just as a test (at least that will put it to bed)

3G off, WiFi on, Bluetooth on - if it still goes it's nothing to do with config, will have to be a fault!

Mines a 16GB, but so is my mates - so not to do with flash memory size :(
 
PVO_Dave said:
I'd imagine regardless of Apples reply (if he didn't put a 'nothing wrong' message out, there'd be even more of the haters out there), someone at Apple is working overtime right now trying to work this out!
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Exactly, and then it will all be forgotten about.

Remember the Pace Sky box thing? Who will remember that next time they have a satellite box installed? and after the problem as solved they are still hailed as the best Satellite boxes. Just another example of my point.

Happens to all sorts of things, even high end, and is soon sorted and forgotten about. But Apple market as they do, so the backlash is to be expected.
 
The haters thing wasn't about anyone in here btw - just after some abuse I took on Facebook yesterday and today for daring to post a photo of my iPhone 4 box when it arrived! haha
 
ding76uk said:
Exactly, and then it will all be forgotten about.

Remember the Pace Sky box thing? Who will remember that next time they have a satellite box installed? and after the problem as solved they are still hailed as the best Satellite boxes. Just another example of my point.

Happens to all sorts of things, even high end, and is soon sorted and forgotten about. But Apple market as they do, so the backlash is to be expected.
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i seriously think you are trying to steal my tagline, you arent having it! i worked hard to get that!!!!!
 
Damn :( Sorry dude, looks like your's has a fault.

Wonder how many are affected, we went to an o2 store today, couldn't make their display model do it either!
 
Sounds like a dud to me, Chris. Take it back while you still can without any hassle.
 
chrisgeary said:
Seems like that's the next move. Wonder when there will be replacement stock :)
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When Steve Jobs accepts that it's a fundamental design flaw rather than just telling people it's their fault for holding the phone incorrectly...
 
Just confirmed the issue on my colleague's iPhone4. 5bars/3G down to 2bars/3G. So in a high sig strength area, its unlikely to be a problem but 3bars or lower and the call will die.

Interestingly he is finding that his ear rings are causing the touch interface to do things, like 'end call' has been selected several times.
 
Ive tried my hardest to find the fault on mine but no matter how I hold it the signal doesn't drop... It was always going to be in a case anyway so not really a problem for me.

It obviously is a design fault, no getting away frm that. Heres hoping they sort it out.
 
So call me a cynic but let loose a product that for some ,won't work properly. Then offer to fix it, if you spend £25, on a Apple high tech rubber band.

Hmmn good money spinner:)
 
I have the new phone and it works perfectly, the wifi is twice the range of the 3GS and the signal strength is better too.
I think all this is stirred up by the apple haters!
 
@copperband - I chose a new contract and the iPhone 4 because I wanted to find a problem so I could hate Apple. Yes, that must be it. Not to mention this is my 5th iPhone nor my iPad that is at home working perfectly or the Macbook...

:cuckoo:
 
joescrivens said:
wow, i thought i was bad, i see a tagline swap coming on!
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Maybe he should change his Avatar to...

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As well... ;):lol:

EDIT: Maybe "Steve Jobs Jr" should be his tag? :p
 
PVO_Dave said:
I don't think it's all the handsets, I can't make mine do this!

Me and a pal at work both got them delivered yesterday, this morning we both tested it, his dropped signal, and mine didn't, he even tried it on mine

Not sure if this helps, or just adds a further layer of confusion!

Dave.
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There is a suggestion that it is more a manufacturing fault than design flaw. The suggestion being that phones were manufactured faulty, the fault was found and fixed and the manufacturing continued. Due to the delay (and i'm guessing cost comes in here too) scrapping all the faulty phones would have caused with the release the phones (faulty and sorted) are released together... Apples reasoning that most will buy a case and any that don't can get a quiet swap...

Sounds plausable, although at the moment it looks like it mayhave blown back in Apples face, however in a few months we shall see...
 
chrisgeary said:
Just confirmed the issue on my colleague's iPhone4. 5bars/3G down to 2bars/3G. So in a high sig strength area, its unlikely to be a problem but 3bars or lower and the call will die.

Interestingly he is finding that his ear rings are causing the touch interface to do things, like 'end call' has been selected several times.
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Don't iPhone screens go black when they are held up to your ear? Most touchscreen phones do to stop that very issue.

PsiFox said:
So call me a cynic but let loose a product that for some ,won't work properly. Then offer to fix it, if you spend £25, on a Apple high tech rubber band.

Hmmn good money spinner:)
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Can't see that tbh, it would be negated by the bad press they get.
 
Amp34 said:
Don't iPhone screens go black when they are held up to your ear? Most touchscreen phones do to stop that very issue.
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Yeah they do. My colleague is an iPhone 3G user as well, he didn't have the problem with it. Weirdness.

Amp34 said:
There is a suggestion that it is more a manufacturing fault than design flaw. The suggestion being that phones were manufactured faulty, the fault was found and fixed and the manufacturing continued. Due to the delay (and i'm guessing cost comes in here too) scrapping all the faulty phones would have caused with the release the phones (faulty and sorted) are released together... Apples reasoning that most will buy a case and any that don't can get a quiet swap...

Sounds plausable, although at the moment it looks like it mayhave blown back in Apples face, however in a few months we shall see...
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Suits me but they should never have tried to charge people for a case or the "bumper". I should be happy soon enough, O2 are replacing mine when new stock arrives.
 
chrisgeary said:
Suits me but they should never have tried to charge people for a case or the "bumper". I should be happy soon enough, O2 are replacing mine when new stock arrives.
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Hey Chris, is is being replaced by the O2 shop where you bought it, or have you contacted O2 via there helpline?

Cheers
Oliver
 
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