iPad .. are you going to get one, and what for?

joescrivens said:
you asked in your thread title "are you getting an ipad" you cant then stipulate that you dont want to hear no's.

you shpuld have asked "those people who are buying ipads, why are you buying them?"

more to the point though, why do you care why people are buying them? you dont need convincing yourself so what will you do with the knowledge you gain?
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Some people can be really hard to please!

The title says " are you going to get one, and what for?" That's a whole sentence there!

The question in the thread says "if you are thinking of buying an iPad, what makes you want one and how do you plan on using it"; another complete sentence there?!

Now, please excuse me, but the continuation of the sentence clearly indicates that the reply is for those who are buying one, not for why you don't want to buy one!

As for my reasons, again, not wanting to be rude but is that much of your business? But if you really are curious, why not follow the thread to see what comes out of it rather than digressing it! But, to answer your question, (1) I am curious as to how "other fellow photographers" may use this, (2) there may be a niche area for me to use it in which I may have overlooked (business or otherwise)!

So again, can I ask politely that we stay on the subject?
 
No need to search, as I found the thread quite interesting as it was, comments like yours are the real start of threads getting locked down ;)

As I said just skip the posts you don't like...:)


Wail said:
If you've so much as done a simple search, you will see that other threads of the nature Apple Good vs. Apple Bad, etc. gets locked down!

Also, as I've posted a specific subject for this thread, I believe it is rightfully to keep the thread specific to the subject at hand; and not digress into other matters of "free" choice!

This is an open forum, if you have a topic, iPad, iPaq, or anything else for that matter and is not addressed in my query then why are you posting here?
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OK! I give in :bang::dummy::bang:
 
That video of the windows device seems to be exactly the same as the iPad, except with a different operating system, and to be fair looks a little more complicated to me. Also, no keyboard or mouse.

I really do think the days of the mouse are numbered. As touch screen takes off more and more, not just in this type of device, the mouse will be outdated, and will soon be seen as clunky when compared to the touch screen thing. It's just people accepting it, rather than moaning about things having a mouse.

Everything now is a clone of the iPad, as this was the first commercially released product, and a new generation of people calling everything tablet like now an "iPad thingy"

I am sure Microsoft will do as well with their main inroads to iPad sales, as Zune did to the iPod market.
 
im getting one of these on the company :D cant wait , im getting it because im starting to develop iphone apps and ipad apps for the company, will complement my new macbook pro :D
 
ding76uk said:
That video of the windows device seems to be exactly the same as the iPad, except with a different operating system, and to be fair looks a little more complicated to me. Also, no keyboard or mouse.

I really do think the days of the mouse are numbered. As touch screen takes off more and more, not just in this type of device, the mouse will be outdated, and will soon be seen as clunky when compared to the touch screen thing. It's just people accepting it, rather than moaning about things having a mouse.

Everything now is a clone of the iPad, as this was the first commercially released product, and a new generation of people calling everything tablet like now an "iPad thingy"

I am sure Microsoft will do as well with their main inroads to iPad sales, as Zune did to the iPod market.
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The courier?

I'd suggest they are aimed at different markets though, the iPad is very much for the consumer market, media consumption and browsing at home on the sofa. From what I have seen on the Courier front it is much more of a business tool, with finger and stylus manipulation, sort of like a diary/scrap book to the iPad's TV.
 
Amp34 said:
The courier?

I'd suggest they are aimed at different markets though, the iPad is very much for the consumer market, media consumption and browsing at home on the sofa. From what I have seen on the Courier front it is much more of a business tool, with finger and stylus manipulation, sort of like a diary/scrap book to the iPad's TV.
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Do you not think that apps like this are already in development for the iPad? Seriously it is going to do more than just be a way to browse the web. Remember when people talked about the iPhone initially, it was just a phone and ipod combined. Look at what it is now. Honestly within 3 months everything that is shown on that video will be available to buy for the iPad.

This is my issue with many of the nay sayers, they are not looking at the long term possibilities of apps to do some amazing things.
 
ding76uk said:
Do you not think that apps like this are already in development for the iPad? Seriously it is going to do more than just be a way to browse the web. Remember when people talked about the iPhone initially, it was just a phone and ipod combined. Look at what it is now. Honestly within 3 months everything that is shown on that video will be available to buy for the iPad.

This is my issue with many of the nay sayers, they are not looking at the long term possibilities of apps to do some amazing things.
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errr but thats exactly what the iphone is. a phone and an ipod touch combined
 
ding76uk said:
Do you not think that apps like this are already in development for the iPad? Seriously it is going to do more than just be a way to browse the web. Remember when people talked about the iPhone initially, it was just a phone and ipod combined. Look at what it is now. Honestly within 3 months everything that is shown on that video will be available to buy for the iPad.

This is my issue with many of the nay sayers, they are not looking at the long term possibilities of apps to do some amazing things.
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Not really. The benefit of having two screens is the idea you can do two things at once, have your diary up on one whils looking at your email on the other, a notes page on one side and a web page or word document up on the other so you can write with the sytlus like you would with a proper notepad.

For that sort of business (not just a email and reading one or two PDFs) the courier would be far better than the iPad (or any of the twins) (even when/if the iPad gets multitasking you aren't going to be able to have two applications open side by side, almost certainly the same with the others too) however I can't see it being that brilliant a media device, it has two smaller screens, so you can either watch a film on one small screen, or maybe over both with a massive gap in the middle.

Two different types of device for to different types of thing, same with the full OS devices, they shouldn't be compared with the iPad and android machines as they will be a different niche, yes they will cover similar ground and look similar (like laotpos and netbooks, similar but very different) but each will be a lot better at certain things and have their own niche.
 
joescrivens said:
errr but thats exactly what the iphone is. a phone and an ipod touch combined
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Yes, but we use them for so much more than the function they were initially meant to be.

I use mine for phone, music, email, net, twitter, facebook, movies, guitar tuner, mobile games console, calendar etc. etc. etc. The are much more than they were initially spoken about being. I can see the same happening for the Ipad.
 
I think (with apologies to wail) that very few iPhone users will have paid £500-700 for them. You won't get a subsidised iPad and that makes it very poor value imo.
 
Well £350-£550 more like but I sort of agree with the sentiment. What I wonder however is with all of these 3g devices coming out over the last few years whether operators will start offering joint contracts, where you can pay a few pounds a month extra for a few sims on the same contract.

For example you get a sim only plan for £30 a month and get 1000mins/texts and 2GB of data, then you pay an extra £5 and get 2-3 sims that you can register to your contract and use in your allowance over your other mobile devices. At the moment the idea of paying £30 for your phone contract and then another £20 for a sim for your laptop/iPad/Android machine seems a bit steep but something like an add on would be perfect (I'd actually contemplate adding it to my contract, whereas there is no way I would have two contacts).
 
Amp34 said:
Not really. The benefit of having two screens is the idea you can do two things at once, have your diary up on one whils looking at your email on the other, a notes page on one side and a web page or word document up on the other so you can write with the sytlus like you would with a proper notepad.

For that sort of business (not just a email and reading one or two PDFs) the courier would be far better than the iPad (or any of the twins) (even when/if the iPad gets multitasking you aren't going to be able to have two applications open side by side, almost certainly the same with the others too) however I can't see it being that brilliant a media device, it has two smaller screens, so you can either watch a film on one small screen, or maybe over both with a massive gap in the middle.

Two different types of device for to different types of thing, same with the full OS devices, they shouldn't be compared with the iPad and android machines as they will be a different niche, yes they will cover similar ground and look similar (like laotpos and netbooks, similar but very different) but each will be a lot better at certain things and have their own niche.
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yeah, I guess though it depends what kind of business stuff you are doing. We always assume when we say business that it's the microsoft office type of work, spreadsheets, word processing etc.

there are business requirements that also would be detrimental by having two small screens, anything to do with graphic design, viewing presentations, things like that. There's no reason why you have to have a physical split between the screens I think thats a mistake on their part. Why not have just one screen and be able to split it with the software, then you get the best of both worlds
 
True, not all business will want two screens, however business people will probably have more need than the average person. The general idea I think however is that it's more of an organiser and something you'd take everywhere with you, like a diary/notebook now, rather than a media player.

Different niches and all that.
 
aligibbs said:
Great, another OS to totally avoid then :). (Why the hell would I want windows on my mobile anyway, that's crazy talk)
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Windows 7 is one of the best operating systems out there. It's also incredibly stable. Microsoft built it from the ground up rather than updating existing code like previous Windows releases. I actually want to start using Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro.
 
KayJay said:
Windows 7 is one of the best operating systems out there. It's also incredibly stable. Microsoft built it from the ground up rather than updating existing code like previous Windows releases. I actually want to start using Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro.
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No they didn't. :)

They started from scratch with Vista, Win 7 is just a fettle under the bonnet and a new paint job (not that MS want you to know that, most of the success of W7 over Vista is marketing not actual performance).That's why XP-Vista was around 7 years, whereas Vista-W7 was back to the usual 3 years. Both Vista and W7 are very good OSs however.

Having said that he was talking about Windows Phone 7 series, a totally different OS and based on the software on their Zune media players. :)

Totally off topic though, sorry Wail!:)
 
KayJay said:
Windows 7 is one of the best operating systems out there. It's also incredibly stable. Microsoft built it from the ground up rather than updating existing code like previous Windows releases. I actually want to start using Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro.
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Your getting your wires crossed here, I was talking about Windows 7 mobile.
 
So after 3 years, one of the most expensive phone there is gets a feature that lesser phones have had since their inception. Bravo Apple :clap:
 
LemmingLover said:
So after 3 years, one of the most expensive phone there is gets a feature that lesser phones have had since their inception. Bravo Apple :clap:
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this is about the iPad having multi tasking within 6 months of its release not the iphone. some people you can never please, they moan about it not being there and that they want it, then when it comes they moan instead about how long it took! hilarious
 
Well you know, they have to find something to bash on Mac for:lol:. Everyone moans no multi tasking, then it gets it, even before it is released in UK. The response from those who moan about it. Yeah, well the Iphone should have had it sooner, jeez.

Going a little off topic, but who actually multi tasks on a mobile? and what exactly do you use it for.

For me, that darn iPad has just become a little more appealing (not that I needed encouragement). Damn you Apple,
 
ding76uk said:
Well you know, they have to find something to bash on Mac for:lol:. Everyone moans no multi tasking, then it gets it, even before it is released in UK. The response from those who moan about it. Yeah, well the Iphone should have had it sooner, jeez.

Going a little off topic, but who actually multi tasks on a mobile? and what exactly do you use it for.

For me, that darn iPad has just become a little more appealing (not that I needed encouragement). Damn you Apple,
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I can listen to last.fm and write a text message, or listen to spotify and read bbc news, or play a game and answer a call at the same time, etc etc.
 
KayJay said:
Windows 7 is one of the best operating systems out there. It's also incredibly stable. Microsoft built it from the ground up rather than updating existing code like previous Windows releases. I actually want to start using Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro.
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I AM using windows 7 on my MAC Pro - it's absolutely fantastic.
 
neil_g said:
i might get one, turns out you can play sports on them..
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Don't think they're any good for swimming or riding a bike though :shake:
 
joescrivens said:
os 4.0 announced, guess what was on the menu

oh look multitasking
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Stop being so defensive.

aligibbs said:
I can listen to last.fm and write a text message, or listen to spotify and read bbc news, or play a game and answer a call at the same time, etc etc.
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I don't use it hugely often (mostly so I can just have programs start instantly, such as a web browser) but when I need it it's hugely useful.:)

Multitasking will definately be useful on the iPad and makes it more interesting. :)
 
aligibbs said:
Your getting your wires crossed here, I was talking about Windows 7 mobile.
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Another reason why Windows Phone 7 is an awful name. Especially considering the UI itself has no concept of "windows"?!
 
weiran said:
Another reason why Windows Phone 7 is an awful name. Especially considering the UI itself has no concept of "windows"?!
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you'd have thought they would have given it a name nothing to do with windows so people wouldn't deliberately avoid it. Like the xBox, most people don't even realise it is a microsoft product and it sells really well.
 
joescrivens said:
defensive?

I'd say more cocky than defensive, in which case I should stop being so cocky :lol:

apologies for the cockiness of the reply!
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Either way, both that post and the OS4 thread opener were a little odd.:lol:

weiran said:
Another reason why Windows Phone 7 is an awful name. Especially considering the UI itself has no concept of "windows"?!
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But Windows mobile 6 is just as bad in that way. What the problem is is because windows on the PC has been called 7.:lol:

joescrivens said:
you'd have thought they would have given it a name nothing to do with windows so people wouldn't deliberately avoid it. Like the xBox, most people don't even realise it is a microsoft product and it sells really well.
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Some people don't dismiss products just because they are made by a certain company. :p
 
joescrivens said:
you'd have thought they would have given it a name nothing to do with windows so people wouldn't deliberately avoid it. Like the xBox, most people don't even realise it is a microsoft product and it sells really well.
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I think they're going for the opposite effect, trying to get people interested in it because it has the Windows brand. A bit pathetic I think, similar to when Adobe rebranded Lightroom to Photoshop Lightroom even though its got nothing to do with Photoshop.
 
weiran said:
Yes, but Vista did give the Windows brand a very bad reputation for a while!
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only amongst the "experts". The vast majority of people using vista probably aren't even aware that it's been replaced or there was anything wrong with it.
 
dod said:
only amongst the "experts". The vast majority of people using vista probably aren't even aware that it's been replaced or there was anything wrong with it.
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Yes, the "experts", otherwise known as the media "reporters" who have no real knowledge about anything they write about.:lol:

The true experts never seemed to have any problem with it, and it just shows how much marketing can do, with a new paint job (windows 7) apparently being so much better, yet it's almost identical under the bonnet.
 
Almost bought one yesterday off a grey-market source; the itch was getting too much! But the premium asked was just stupid (close to £1000 for the 64GB model) :cuckoo:

I guess the only rational solution, other than not buying one, is to wait until these are more commonly available.

It's amazing how, when something isn't attainable, I feel that having it would open up so much potential, yet once it's in my hands I just goes on the pile of things I shouldn't have bought :p
 
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