Internet Bullying

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Because you care little for my views and thoughts as they differ greatly to yours?

To be honest Steve, I think its more the way in which you impose those views on others, and that sometimes, some of the comments you make can be pretty offensive. Shooting in the face being one example, and that it generally seems like you look down on large areas of the community. I think the first time we had any contact on here was on a thread about 'Dangerous' dogs. It was clear from reading your comments on there, that you had absolutely no experience of dogs (other than seeing them in the street), yet you pretty much kept on telling those of us with many years experience that we were wrong. If thats not openning yourself up for criticism then I dont know what is.
 
Because you care little for my views and thoughts as they differ greatly to yours?
not at all. everyone has different opinion, that's life and people are entitled to them.

its more because all you do is post threads that cause arguments. you post very controversial views. you cannot accept that your views may be wrong. you do not respond to any post pointing out how you are wrong (normally with evidence).

its almost like you enjoy stirring the pot.

THAT'S why people have problems with you.
 
To be honest Steve, I think its more the way in which you impose those views on others, and that sometimes, some of the comments you make can be pretty offensive. Shooting in the face being one example, and that it generally seems like you look down on large areas of the community. I think the first time we had any contact on here was on a thread about 'Dangerous' dogs. It was clear from reading your comments on there, that you had absolutely no experience of dogs (other than seeing them in the street), yet you pretty much kept on telling those of us with many years experience that we were wrong. If thats not openning yourself up for criticism then I dont know what is.

And you to be honest didn't seem to receptive to the fact that others don't like dogs, don't care to come accross a big dog off a lead and don't care for a dog being walked to approach, start barking or jumping up at a stranger on the street.

It happens a lot and the response of the owner is either, it won't hurt a fly or somehow I'm in the wrong for questioning them for the behaviour of their dog. Your behaviour on that thread is somehow I was the nuisance for even mentioning it. Had a child not died in a dog attack, I think that's how it started.

I find dogs a bloody nuisance. You love them. You can't get more polarised than that.

Anyway, I thought you had me on your ignore list. Why not go back to having that arrangement?

Oh and btw. Your conduct on this thread was pretty low
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/in...nti-tattoo-discrimination-be-illegal?.555697/
 
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not at all. everyone has different opinion, that's life and people are entitled to them.

its more because all you do is post threads that cause arguments. you post very controversial views. you cannot accept that your views may be wrong. you do not respond to any post pointing out how you are wrong (normally with evidence).

its almost like you enjoy stirring the pot.

THAT'S why people have problems with you.

I post threads about events in the news. I cannot be responsible if others see these events differently to me. Namely here

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/in...Benefit-asylum-seekers-in-£2mil-house.566456/

Look at my analogy of first class train travel. Other than being called obnoxious I cannot see a suitable vas reasoned reply to it?

If you think I'm stirring the pot why do you jump in to my threads countless times. Why not ignore it. Because you want to stirr it maybe, or more simply maybe you just want to discuss the topic at hand.
 
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The argument was nothing to do with whether or not I was receptive to the idea that others may not like dogs, of course I know that. The problem was, that you seemed to think that all dogs/owners were exactly the same, and they should ALL be treated with the same contempt.

So you want to be ignored now? That doesnt really create healthy debate now does it?
 
Well as all the others still seem to be in bed, someone better say something and I will start with OOF certainly isn't about to close. If you don't like what is in there, no one is forcing you to visit that section. I will also add, and this isn't directed at anyone in particular, it's a statement of fact based on 'rinse and repeat' over many years, the folks that moan most about OOF are also the ones that post in there most frequently. It is a section that is there to help relieve the more serious stuff elsewhere on the forum and generally speaking, a higher level of humour and fun is allowed as we assume everyone is a grown up and can take a certain amount of micky taking.

So on to Steve - yes I could go on for quite some time about how this situation has developed in the first place but I will try and limit it to a few sentences, it certainly wasn't a one way street, Steve's rather extreme opinions [and resolution ideas thereof] on certain subjects were always going to leave him open to a lot of heated replies and I don't think for one minute he is or was stupid enough not to think that might happen. You do not walk into a large discussion area anywhere in life and announce that a whole section of society should be shot in the face/banned from our streets forever/locked up and key thrown away without getting a high level of reaction, and that is exactly what he got. Yes, as staff we let it slide initially in the hope he might realise himself that perhaps he was creating his own problems with such extreme views that were unlikely to be agreed with by a vast majority of the forum community. Once the new threads kept coming and that wasn't happening, action was taken, behind the scenes, as is so often the case on TP.

So, since then, we have taken action on the forum, threads have been merged, posts have been deleted, or staff have stepped in and asked people to be a little less reactionary. However, we are not going to delete every post that is in jest, nor even every post that isn't, because sometimes it pays to leave them there when a moderator has commented so that everyone can see why the comment was made and where the lines in the sand are. We will continue to do that.

Nor can we read every single post in every thread Steve starts either, we have lives & jobs too AND and entire forum to moderate in the free time we get to be here, as well as the stuff we are organising on an ongoing basis for members of this community to enjoy, the competitions, etc. So, if you see something just report it. It will be dealt with. Maybe not in the next 2 minutes, sometimes not even in the next two hours, but it will be done and if it's not, you can be sure it was discussed and considered ok to be left. Oh, did some mods join in or like some of the posts? Yes, because we are members first, moderators 2nd, we are only human and subject to exactly the same humours or annoyances as everyone else. Or are we meant to not join in at all other than to referee the next internet argument.

So, to summarise. Find something else to do, click away, stop poking the wasps nest and it might just stop buzzing.
 
The argument was nothing to do with whether or not I was receptive to the idea that others may not like dogs, of course I know that. The problem was, that you seemed to think that all dogs/owners were exactly the same, and they should ALL be treated with the same contempt.

So you want to be ignored now? That doesnt really create healthy debate now does it?

You had me on ignore. Shame actually as you had some gear for sale I wanted to buy but managed to get it elsewhere.

I have to ask you if you found me as odious as to put me on ignore why you've taken me off ignore.

Re dog ownership I think it should be regulated more and people in breach of such regulation have their pets taken from them.
 
thing is, the ignore function doesnt remove the threads completely from view.

for example, ive clicked into some ignored content from the main forum screen. they still show there if they are the most recently updated in that section.

also some threads make very little sense when people are quoting ignored content so you have to click the "show ignored" button to get the full picture.
 
thing is, the ignore function doesnt remove the threads completely from view.

for example, ive clicked into some ignored content from the main forum screen. they still show there if they are the most recently updated in that section.

also some threads make very little sense when people are quoting ignored content so you have to click the "show ignored" button to get the full picture.

Fair enough
 
I took you off of ignore, because it seems quite difficult to find a thread on here that you dont have an opinion on, and it was making the threads confusing. I decided to 'unignore' you to make the threads easier to follow without all the missing posts/quotes. My opinion of you hasnt changed.
 
I took you off of ignore, because it seems quite difficult to find a thread on here that you dont have an opinion on, and it was making the threads confusing. I decided to 'unignore' you to make the threads easier to follow without all the missing posts/quotes. My opinion of you hasnt changed.

Neither has mine of you.
 
Exchanges on this forum are NOT examples internet bullying.
As for Steve's approach to 'enlightening' other users, I just see it as a big wind up ... very reminiscent of people i've encountered on other forums (who openly declared themselves as trolls, in a light hearted manner). Was he desperate to share his outlook on life before the exit of Scrivvens?

As for the ignore thing, in his case it does stop the board appearing like a BBC summary page.
 
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